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RunJun, do games w Shortly After Xbox Game Pass Prices Spiked, the Page to Cancel Game Pass Subscriptions Was Overwhelmed

Just canceled my 4 year old subscription. Can’t wait to hear the complaints from my kid but Netflix is likely next.

thatKamGuy,

The missus and I sat down about a year ago and tabulated up how much all of the various streaming subscriptions were costing us per year (it was close to $1,000 when including YouTube Premium).

We cancelled every single one, and put that money towards building a home NAS and filling that up with downloaded media. No more ads, stupidly low bitrates, or TV shows & movies disappearing because a license expired.

The server has more than paid for itself at this point, and every additional spare dollar is being put aside for our kids’ tuition.

ETA: Consider doing the same, your kid’ll likely thank you in the long run!

PS: Never too late to introduce them to all of your favourite classic games, either - though that one may be a bit harder to get them onboard 🤣

RunJun,

I have a 16TB server and an extensive steam collection. I already explained it to him and he was fine about it.

thatKamGuy,

Even better! What are you running on your server?

Ours is just an old QNAP I dug out of storage with 4x8TB drives in RAID5 - but am eager to try out HexOS on a proper system once I have some spare time.

RunJun,

It’s running windows out of convenience but I’ll be swapping to Linux soon.

AlfredoJohn,

Out of curiosity, what’s the electricity cost per month with your server running 24/7 now? Or do you schedule down time when its not in use. With all the datacenters poping up, electricity rates have gone through the roof, so looking at that, do you end up saving more still through this route?

thatKamGuy,

I haven’t used a killawatt on it to check, but according to the specs it uses ~30W while in operation (plus whatever additional draw for the four drives). It’s pretty negligible, overall as far as I can tell.

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Never too late to introduce them to all of your favourite classic games, either

Easier if you start with Bomberman Party on the PS1 or the arcade Neo Bomberman. I think those play much better than anything Bomberman released after 2004

If the kid enjoys strategy, starting out with Age of Empires should be easy. Or just leave them messing around with Settlers 2

whereyaaat,

Nice.

You wasted hundreds of dollars and have nothing to show for it.

You are average!

LavaPlanet, do games w Shortly After Xbox Game Pass Prices Spiked, the Page to Cancel Game Pass Subscriptions Was Overwhelmed

I already canceled because of the atrocities Microsoft does / is / supports.

PKscope,
@PKscope@lemmy.world avatar

Not that the harm hasn’t already been done, but I did just see this: thisweekinvideogames.com/…/microsoft-pulls-azure-…

LavaPlanet,

Thanks for sharing! Small wins!!

ano_ba_to,

Know also that they did not really pull out completely. They are still there, but made sure to let everyone know they did something.

LavaPlanet,

Oh, so it’s kinda for show.

ibot, do games w Shortly After Xbox Game Pass Prices Spiked, the Page to Cancel Game Pass Subscriptions Was Overwhelmed

I just bought 12 month of Ultimate on eBay. I always did this in the past, because it’s cheaper than buying directly from Microsoft. So far, I made good experience with it.

The way it usually works is, that you get a few codes you need to redeem. I got three codes for 36 month of EA Play and then one code for Ultimate that is supposed to transform the EA Play subscription to 12 month Ultimate. But due to the the price hike, the subscription transformation changed as well and I did not get the 12 month.

I’m now in contact with the seller and he tries to find a solution. I want to have my 12 month Ultimate that he offered for the price. But it also sucks for the seller. Seems like we both didn’t know. He basically sold it to cheap. I paid 150€ for 12 month Ultimate and he just now increased the price to 200€.

The new prices are insane! 150€ a year is already my upper limit. I’m not gonna pay 200€ or even more a year. I think, if my new subscription is over, I will not extend it. I like the idea of Game Pass, but that’s to much money.

The thing is I really like Game Consoles. I want to play in front of my TV. I wish, Steam would make another Steam Machine with Steam OS. I do want an all in one solution. The last thing I want is a gaming PC. I hope, alternatives to Xbox Consoles and Playstation come up.

I know, I could also use the XBox without GamePass, but I do play online something and it would be nice to get away from subscriptions completly.

ArsonButCute,

I wish, Steam would make another steam machine with steamOS

The last thing I want is a gaming PC

The steam machine program was where OEMs could partner with Valve to make a gaming PC that shipped with a steam controller and Steam OS. That’s it.

You stated you wanted a steam machine, but also say you don’t want a gaming PC, but… That’s what a steam machine is

vaultdweller013,

Yeah I think some folks get confused and think Steam machines were a Steam based console, but the closest to that is the Steam Deck which admittedly is pretty solid. Though I do think Valve has experimented with making a Steam Console in the past but I don’t think it went anywhere, though it also couldve been absorbed into the Steam Deck team.

ibot,

Thanks for clarifying! You are right, I thought they sold complete systems with just Steam OS, like the Steam Deck, but as a console. Seems like I was wrong around it.

Just to make sure: I’m aware one can also use the desktop mode on SteamOS, but it’s not really necessary.

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

I mean, you can set up a gaming pc or laptop to mostly work with a controller and have a general interface akin to that of consoles. Retro stuff like Lakka or RetroPie already do it super well. The “set up” part is where you’ll likely spend several hours, though

ibot,

Yeah, but what I love about consoles is the nearly zero maintenance. Updates are installed completly in the background. I work the whole day on IT stuff. I do not want to administrate any system in my free time.

And I like to play some more graphic intensiv games, not only retro stuff.

From this points of view Xbox and Playstation are great. I’m just getting less and less happy with the business model behind it. I’m totally fine with paying for stuff. But I never liked the subscription and the higher the monthly prices get the less attractive it is for me.

samus12345,
@samus12345@sh.itjust.works avatar

I wish Steam would make another Steam Machine with Steam OS.

It’s rumored they’re working on one codenamed Fremont.

zanyllama52,
@zanyllama52@infosec.pub avatar

It’s also rumored they’re working on Half-Life 3. Let’s see what happens first. 😉

samus12345,
@samus12345@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’d say the console is the more plausible rumor, but maybe someday we’ll see!

Siegehammer85, do games w Shortly After Xbox Game Pass Prices Spiked, the Page to Cancel Game Pass Subscriptions Was Overwhelmed

I work in the IT software licensing industry, it’s a fucking cancer I can’t wait to fail so bad that when we have the first extended internet outage failure so bad that it shows the world that subscriptions are a liability that shouldn’t exist

rumba, do games w Shortly After Xbox Game Pass Prices Spiked, the Page to Cancel Game Pass Subscriptions Was Overwhelmed

Knowing Microsoft, I’d like to thing that it went down like this:

Pardon me, your department isn’t achieving the expected 20% annual revenue increase.

But we’re just selling subscriptions to games that cost us nearly nothing. It’s free money.

And you need to make more money from it, increase your subscriber count or your costs, or we’ll cut your staff.

Randomgal,

Then they cut staff anyways, because why leave free money on the table?

VerilyFemme, do games w Shortly After Xbox Game Pass Prices Spiked, the Page to Cancel Game Pass Subscriptions Was Overwhelmed

Buying isn’t owning, but it has to be better than this…

unhrpetby,

It can be if you buy from stores, such as GOG and Itch, that provide DRM-free downloads of games. Even Steam, depending on the game.

doingthestuff, do games w Shortly After Xbox Game Pass Prices Spiked, the Page to Cancel Game Pass Subscriptions Was Overwhelmed

Between the cost of housing and the cost of food, and the fact wages aren’t that much better than they were 15 years ago - you’d think they would realize they are asking for the scraps people have left.

I’ve always just bought games when they’re on a good sale, I’ve never had a game pass type thing. But maybe they just want to squeeze a bit more out of their most loyal customers and they’re accepting that it is a dying model.

Prox,

Once upon a time, the idea with subscriptions like this was to have customers set it and forget it. Charge them a small/reasonable amount and they’ll keep giving you money forever. Giving people a reason to think about - or worse, evaluate the merits of - the monthly deposit they’re giving you used to be a sin for companies.

But here we are, seeing the difference between “companies” and “corpos”.

AppleTea,

…is the difference being publicly traded on the stock exchange? The only company I can think of that doesn’t fall under “corpo” is Valve, and it seems to mostly be because they don’t have to answer to shareholders.

Prox,

I mean “corpos” in the Cyberpunk sense - mega-huge companies that put profits far and above all else, discarding any notion of ethics, morality, or care about others in the process.

They’re the companies that buy up emerging tech solely so they can kill it (their competition). They don’t give a shit about long-term sustainability - if it raises the bottom line today, they do it. They disregard laws and consumer protections because the only consequences are paltry (for them) fines, which they see as the cost of doing business.

bblkargonaut, do games w Shortly After Xbox Game Pass Prices Spiked, the Page to Cancel Game Pass Subscriptions Was Overwhelmed

It’s nice they pulled this nonsense during a steam sale. Cancelled and picked up halo mcc and silksong.

copd,

silksong isn’t on sale.

bblkargonaut,

Impulse purchase

JollyBrancher,

A game, where depending on opinion, $20 is only $20.

caseofthematts,

It’s a pretty low price already, and I personally think the devs deserve it. Hope you enjoy!

samus12345,
@samus12345@sh.itjust.works avatar

Coming for the sale and leaving having bought a game not on sale is part of why sales exist!

sp3ctr4l, do games w Shortly After Xbox Game Pass Prices Spiked, the Page to Cancel Game Pass Subscriptions Was Overwhelmed

… and here is yet another opportunity I have to post the same comment as I have been doing for the past 6+ months:

People still use Microsoft products?!

null,
@null@lemmy.nullspace.lol avatar

Nope. Nobody uses them.

sp3ctr4l,

I literally cannot imagine why they would, and I used to work for them.

null,
@null@lemmy.nullspace.lol avatar

Hardly anyone does

psx_crab,

Your comment really just shout “i’m living under a rock!”

sp3ctr4l,

Yep, me with my years of working for MSFT, playing their games, configuring their software and using it at large businesses… and then realizing its all fucking overpriced broken garbage from first hand experience, and then replacing it all with open sourcr shit both at home and at work…

Yep, I really am sound like live under rock.

psx_crab,

Nobody care about your credentials though, your “people still use microsoft product” comment is the one that sounds like you’re living under a rock.

whereyaaat,

I think he’s just not an idiot like most of the people who are finally cancelling their subscriptions.

I know, it’s rare to find someone who isn’t eager to be ripped off.

dukemirage,

Unfortunately the only music software I’m somewhat productive in runs only on Windows or Mac, and I really can’t afford Apple’s hardware prices. So it’s either using WIndows, or being very limited at a very dear creative outlet.

sp3ctr4l,

You can run most Windows programs on linux.

WINE/Proton.

dukemirage,

I know, but DAWs are notoriously difficult to run and there are problems with most plugins.

sp3ctr4l,

Thats a fair point, DAWs are nightmares.

Hrm. I would offer a linux alternative, but I also know how people learn a DAW like an instrument and changing to a new would actually be quite an undertaking, and yeah, lots of various effects and such that… really only work that one specific way on your specific setup.

wesker, do games w Shortly After Xbox Game Pass Prices Spiked, the Page to Cancel Game Pass Subscriptions Was Overwhelmed
@wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

EA also further buried the ability to cancel EA accounts, after the announcement they had been sold to the Saudis and Kushner.

other_cat,

Between that, this, and Disney+ cancellation page “accidentally” going down during that fiasco, this is exactly why I’ve switched to using only virtual cards for subscriptions. Pause/Cancel the virtual card, voila, no more subscription.

hydrashok,

Good thing I never signed up for one.

Any Steam game that requires an EA, Ubisoft, Blizzard, whatever account is a total non-starter for me. I’ve looked at some of the newer Battlefields when they’re on sale for like $2 and I still can’t be convinced. Likely never will.

Ok with me, there’s lots of other publishers out there, both independents and studios, that I’d much rather give my $2 to.

RightHandOfIkaros,

To be fair, those kinds of changes do not usually happen so rapidly after a purchase, and was likely already planned for implementation and started before the sale.

In other words, it is likely EA was already planning to make that change regardless of if the sale went through or not.

Tollana1234567,

they dont want SA or kushner to hold an EMPTY bag, but i suspect they will get alot of cancellations in the future. wish they seperate westwood so a proper CNC can be revived.

SlartyBartFast,

And Kyrandia!

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Westwood, my beloved 😢

Would be good if Maxis also got out of their throes, though that’s extremely unlikely, given The Sims

doctortofu, do games w Shortly After Xbox Game Pass Prices Spiked, the Page to Cancel Game Pass Subscriptions Was Overwhelmed

The price increase is absurd. I cancelled too, because while I do play quite a bit, this level of corporate greed is completely unjustifiable to me. If rather watch playthroughs of new games on Twitch or YouTube and then buy them a year later on sale than pay this bloody much, eff that.

whereyaaat,

Just so you know, they only thought you were stupid enough to pay more because you were stupid to enough to pay at all.

Use your brain before your wallet. Start torrenting.

Stop being average.

CosmoNova,

To be fair it‘s as absurd as it was inevitable. Gamepass was always meant as this temporary thing you can try out to play some new games until everyone jumps ship because of increased prices. It has been preached for years. No one could‘ve seriously thought this was a long term alternative to buying games or at least buying licenses to games on Steam. All online subscriptions are scams in the process.

M137,
@M137@lemmy.world avatar

Why watch playthroughs at all? Just wait till the games are on sale. And only a year isn’t that long, wait more and get better deals with more complete games. There’s nothing saying you need to hurry in any way, and several things saying it’s a good idea to wait. There are more than enough games available for anyone to not have to constantly claw at the newest releases.

Scotty_Trees,
@Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world avatar

“watch playthroughs of new games on Twitch of YouTube”

welcome to my life for the last couple of many years lol. Not that I’ve been boycotting per se, but I haven’t bought a new game in years cuz my laptop is over a decade old so the best I can play is minecraft, or just use my xbox one for battlefield 4. the corporate greed from the last decade has caused me to never buy this crap again. I love videogames so much, thank god for emulators.

I don’t need any trash EsaudiaA dishes out. People need to go play old/vintage games, get back to the roots, before games were nothing but meaningless cash grabs.

moakley, do games w Shortly After Xbox Game Pass Prices Spiked, the Page to Cancel Game Pass Subscriptions Was Overwhelmed

I’m usually fine with paying more for things I enjoy that are worth it. Like $70 games are just not a big deal to me.

I’m also too lazy to cancel most things. I’ve ignored Game Pass price hikes before and justified them by thinking of all the games I played without buying.

But this one is just ridiculous. There’s no value here, no way for me to justify it. I was enjoying Silksong on Xbox because I didn’t have to buy it, but now that I do have to buy it I guess I’ll do that on my Switch instead. Replaying it is going to be rough, especially without my Elite controller.

I hope Microsoft gets their shit together, because Xbox has been my favorite game platform for years.

_AutumnMoon_, do games w Shortly After Xbox Game Pass Prices Spiked, the Page to Cancel Game Pass Subscriptions Was Overwhelmed

I have never had gamepass, it just seemed like a waste honestly

caseofthematts,

I get the inherent value people attach to it, but after having it several times (I’d have it for a month or two and then drop it for like, a year), I would never go back to it even if it still seemed like a good deal.

For an app developed by Microsoft and working on a PC, it has some awful pathing, and I lost saves and had issues launching games on multiple occasions. Tried many fixes and it never worked out. Some games would work for me, others wouldn’t. So for me, since it felt like a toss up to get a game to work, it was pointless.

rozodru,
@rozodru@piefed.social avatar

it WAS a good deal early on. Also when they introduced their partnership with RIOT and it would allow you to unlock all the characters in LoL that was a very good deal if you were a League player.

but the price increases and what have you…meh. it was good to get access to some games and not have to pay full retail for them. I’m thankful I didn’t pay full price for Starfield and just played it on gamepass but there would be months on end where there was nothing on there worth playing.

Omegamanthethird, (edited ) do games w Shortly After Xbox Game Pass Prices Spiked, the Page to Cancel Game Pass Subscriptions Was Overwhelmed
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

Oh, they got rid of the 12 month core plan completely and renamed core to essential (isn’t essential the basic playstation plan?).

I guess I won’t buy more than 1 month at a time for multiplayer. That’s going to save me a lot of money, since I don’t play xbox online very often.

OddMinus1, do games w Shortly After Xbox Game Pass Prices Spiked, the Page to Cancel Game Pass Subscriptions Was Overwhelmed

Just cancelled mine. I have barely been doing ~2 games per year, and the cost was low enough for me to not really care about the months I didn’t play at all.

But a price increase is the straw.

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