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SoftestSapphic, do games w Shortly After Xbox Game Pass Prices Spiked, the Page to Cancel Game Pass Subscriptions Was Overwhelmed
@SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world avatar

Getting users to pay extra for features that should already be included with their overpriced consoles is such a scam.

Passerby6497,

It’s the Microsoft way. They hide security features that should be standard behind higher subscription tiers. It’s entirely bullshit.

whereyaaat,

It’s all a scam.

It’s been a scam since the first Xbox where they charged people to play online.

The thing is, once they see dumbasses are willing to be scammed, they see no reason to stop there.

The only winning move is not to pay.

calliope, do games w Shortly After Xbox Game Pass Prices Spiked, the Page to Cancel Game Pass Subscriptions Was Overwhelmed

I really appreciate this, you just saved me at least $20.

Microsoft’s user experience is awful at every step in a browser. I wanted to like XBox but it’s clear why they’re losing.

etchinghillside, do games w Shortly After Xbox Game Pass Prices Spiked, the Page to Cancel Game Pass Subscriptions Was Overwhelmed

Internet is being shitty on link. What is the price increasing to/from? When was the last increase?

SalamenceFury,
@SalamenceFury@lemmy.world avatar

It varies by location. But for me on brazil at least every single subscription doubled in price. PC Game Pass was 36 BRL, it is now 70. Ultimate was 60 BRL, now it’s 120. I cannot justify this shit.

Nelots,

This link has a pretty good comparison between the new and old gamepass features/prices. The cheapest tier is actually better than it used to be, but it looks like the more expensive ones are getting bundled with shit most people won’t want just so they can justify increasing the price.

There are four tiers to the gamepass: Core, Standard, PC, and Ultimate. The first two were exclusive to Xbox, the PC version was obviously exclusive to PCs, and Ultimate was available for both. All tiers aside from the PC gamepass are now being bundled with xbox’s cloud gaming, with higher tiers having shorter wait times and better quality.

This is all US pricing, so take it with a grain of salt considering the OP said their prices doubled:

  1. Core, now called Essential, is a $10 tier that will now have double the games (from 25+ to 50+) and is newly available on PC as well with no price increase.
  2. The $15 Standard tier, now called Premium, is likewise not seeing a price increase and will now be available on PC. However, it looks like Call of Duty will no longer be included in this tier, which I imagine is one of the biggest sellers of gamepass.
  3. The previously $12 PC tier is increasing in price to $16.50. Looks like the only new “benefit” is it will come with Ubisoft+ classic (40+ games) now. Still exclusive to PC.
  4. Then there’s the previously $20 Ultimate tier. It’s price is increasing to $30 a month, and it’s the one everyone’s upset about. The only new benefits are cloud gaming, Ubisoft+ classic, and a Fortnite subscription.
Aviandelight, do games w Shortly After Xbox Game Pass Prices Spiked, the Page to Cancel Game Pass Subscriptions Was Overwhelmed
@Aviandelight@mander.xyz avatar

Jfc I just downgraded back to Premium. We were paying for Ultimate but never used it. What a great way to force users to look at their subbed to. It’s pretty fucking awful to pull this shit with no real announcement.

verdi, do games w Shortly After Xbox Game Pass Prices Spiked, the Page to Cancel Game Pass Subscriptions Was Overwhelmed

For years I’ve been warning whoever would listen that XboxGP, much like any other content subscription service owned by a public company would inevitably lead to a massive consumer squeeze. Fortunately it happened before MS managed to metastasise into a monopoly in gaming too. Good riddance.

mrfriki, do games w Shortly After Xbox Game Pass Prices Spiked, the Page to Cancel Game Pass Subscriptions Was Overwhelmed

It was nice to have Xbox a month or two a year to play new releases. Guess that it’s over now, no problem, still a patient gamer.

Lfrith, do games w Fairgame$ Has Been Canceled, Too, According to Michael Pachter, Who Says Sony Has ‘Lost Its Way’

Saddest Sony generation with a weak exclusive line up due pivoting towards failed gaas instead of single player exclusives. PS4 backwards compatibility ended up being the most noteworthy thing about the PS5.

makingStuffForFun,
@makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml avatar

Exclusives are cancer to gamers, and lock people into ecosystems. All games should be available on all appropriate platforms, for greater consumer choice.

newthrowaway20,

I can live with timed exclusives if it leads to good games.

Katana314,

I would say it’s no coincidence we’ve seen a drought of good singleplayer games around the same time as a drought of console exclusives.

Technology-wise, there’s no “reason” to buy any particular console. They’re all PCs. So, console makers have to invent that reason; and little things like a screenshot button, or family features, don’t pull people into the store. Exclusive games do.

And one key thing is, those exclusive games can’t be F2P microtransactions-laden casinos or live-service games. No one is spending $500 just to play something free; they’ll try to install that on a device they have. The exclusives have to be full, complete, well-voice-acted, well-written masterpieces respected by the gaming public - making anyone without that console envious.

But couldn’t devs just sell those games without making them exclusive? Perhaps not. Look at the credits for the latest God of War and you get a sense of how much they’re spending to make those types of games.

Yes, the game alone is still profitable. But A) It’s paying for a dozen failures Sony has also put out - no-name experiments they greenlit, and B) It might not be as profitable as many other reliable industries investors could put their money into. Why not just buy an index fund?

Thankfully, the equation works out better for indie studios; their games aren’t so massive as to need to account for millions in costs. So we’ll keep getting those. But big-budget singleplayer arrangements aren’t as likely when they’re not pushing some bigger product like a game console.

Call_Me_Maple, do games w Fairgame$ Has Been Canceled, Too, According to Michael Pachter, Who Says Sony Has ‘Lost Its Way’
@Call_Me_Maple@lemmy.world avatar

Didn’t we already know this?

simple, do games w Fairgame$ Has Been Canceled, Too, According to Michael Pachter, Who Says Sony Has ‘Lost Its Way’
@simple@piefed.social avatar
Prox,

Classic Michael Pachter. That dude is wrong all the fucking time, yet people keep pushing his garbage.

ms_lane,

‘Lies’ is more accurate to say than ‘wrong’

He’s an investor, he’s pushing positions hoping his investments and/or shorts pay out.

ms_lane, do games w Fairgame$ Has Been Canceled, Too, According to Michael Pachter, Who Says Sony Has ‘Lost Its Way’

Investor makes up garbage to advance his own investment position, again

When are these people going to face the consequences they deserve?

332, do games w Fairgame$ Has Been Canceled, Too, According to Michael Pachter, Who Says Sony Has ‘Lost Its Way’
@332@feddit.nu avatar

Truly shocking that the all-in pivot to GAAS would end up spectacularly failing, surely no one saw this coming.

At least Jim Ryan is gone now.

humanspiral, do games w Xbox Next Magnus APU Will Provide Flexibility for Scaling an Entire Stack of Systems That Will Likely Compete More With Pre-Built PCs Than the PlayStation 6

80 CUs is 7900xt, 4080 level. Would be surprising in APU.

I just got a 7840hs mini pc with 780m igpu, and oculink for future. Very happy with it as I can play beyond all reason in 1200p high settings compared to 1650s that did 1080p in low settings. 60 fps with amd chill, and mostly under 80C, with few peaks around 85C.

The 890m, AI370 are $700usd more, and under 25% improved gpu. 2x or 3x the 890m gpu performance can be acquired for $700 oculink solution.

80CU APU, is going to be priced higher than AI 395’s 40 CU APU, which is already priced shockingly high. The next Xbox being a full PC can justify pricing, but usual gaming console pricing model is break even based on selling locked in games (razor blades) at high prices. 395 use case has mostly been to have a very large ram LLM at relatively slow speed. APUs for relatively portable mini pc mid range GPU tasks with external GPU enhancement for “desktop scenario” seems like a sweet spot, or laptop with mobile gpu for more combined portable performance per $, seems like it would always have an edge over “bleeding edge APU” for most people.

SkunkWorkz, do games w Xbox Next Magnus APU Will Provide Flexibility for Scaling an Entire Stack of Systems That Will Likely Compete More With Pre-Built PCs Than the PlayStation 6

Haven’t they been claiming this since the OG XBox

Tigeroovy, do games w Xbox Next Magnus APU Will Provide Flexibility for Scaling an Entire Stack of Systems That Will Likely Compete More With Pre-Built PCs Than the PlayStation 6

And I bet even that won’t just play all of my old Xbox and 360 games.

tonytins, do games w Xbox Next Magnus APU Will Provide Flexibility for Scaling an Entire Stack of Systems That Will Likely Compete More With Pre-Built PCs Than the PlayStation 6
@tonytins@pawb.social avatar

I’m just going to assume they’re throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks.

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