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moon, do gaming w Nintendo goes after the Palworld Pokémon modder

You know that Nintendo is watching this game like a hawk, looking for any possible way they can do legal action.

Bonesince1997,

Really, cum, it’s just the modder and not the game, so far.

Ookami38,

Which is why they’re watching like hawks. To make it not “so far”.

bamboo,

I thought all of the IP was controlled by The Pokemon Company, which Nintendo owns a minority stake in. Shouldn’t it be the Pokemon Company who is filing the DMCA takedown and taking legal action?

ForgotAboutDre,

Nintendo is their publisher, so may have the responsibility for this sort of thing.

Mango,
Nacktmull, do games w Epic is giving away 17 games as part of its holiday sale
@Nacktmull@lemmy.world avatar

Look Epic, those are very nice presents but as I told you many times already, I am happily married to Steam and I plan to keep it that way. Please respect my decision and stop sending me gifts, it´s getting awkward and honestly you´re making an ass of yourself.

darelik,

I am polygameous

Nacktmull,
@Nacktmull@lemmy.world avatar

And that´s just one of the reasons it would never work out. We simply don´t fit!

Ashtear, do gaming w Former Kotaku writers are launching a new video game site — and they own it this time

Well, a bunch more talent just hit the job market with The Escapist melting down, too.

I encourage anyone that hasn’t yet to try any subscription-based journalism for a month just to see how different the writing is when it’s not beholden to advertising and SEO.

samc,
@samc@feddit.uk avatar

What’s happening with The Escapist? I thought things had been going better over there recently

Carol2852,
@Carol2852@discuss.tchncs.de avatar
VentraSqwal,

Well that post didn’t age well lol. Poor Nick.

ZemTM,

Their parent company fired some people, including the editor-in-chief, and he was so well liked the entire video team resigned and went with him. They’re now Second Wind. youtube.com/

Smoke,

They aren’t in the job market, the EIC formed a new company with the staff that quit.

zebidiah, do games w Sony is raising all PS5 console prices in the US by $50, starting tomorrow

remember when consoles got cheaper as they aged? …and eventually they’d hit that $99 sweet spot in the last few quarters of life? and used game stores were overstocked with older cheap used games…

ozymandias117,

That’s why all of the major players have been frothing at the mouth to get rid of discs

frenchfryenjoyer, do games w How Nintendo locked down the Switch 2’s USB-C port and broke third-party docking
@frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world avatar

I’ve never been so unhyped for a new games console in my life.

my hype for Ryujinx 2 intensifies tho

bhamlin, do games w How Nintendo locked down the Switch 2’s USB-C port and broke third-party docking

Can’t read without a subscription.

Zetta,
ThePantser,

I selected all and copy/paste before it popped up with the subscribe. It’s not perfect and I didn’t do any editing, but it’s readable.

Edit: now that I read it, I guess it’s not all there but TLDR there is encryption between the dock and console that prevents 3rd party docks.

How Nintendo locked down the Switch 2’s USB-C port and broke third-party docking

We whipped out a USB-C PD analyzer to test how Nintendo walled its garden this time around. by Sean Hollister Jul 2, 2025, 3:47 PM EDT

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If you buy something from a Verge link, Vox Media may earn a commission. See our ethics statement. Nintendo Switch 2 Photo: Amelia Holowaty Krales / The Verge Sean Hollister Sean Hollister is a senior editor and founding member of The Verge who covers gadgets, games, and toys. He spent 15 years editing the likes of CNET, Gizmodo, and Engadget.

There’s always a reason why universal USB-C ports don’t “just work” like you’d expect. In the early days, it was incompetence or naiveté. Later, manufacturers often cheaped out. But in the case of Nintendo’s Switch 2, it appears to be intentional.

With the Nintendo Switch 2, it should be easy to plug your new, more expensive console into video glasses or TVs when you’re traveling away from home. USB-C makes it so. But Nintendo has intentionally broken the Switch 2’s compatibility with those devices, using a new encryption scheme and some form of dedicated encryption chip, two accessory manufacturers tell The Verge.

I haven’t yet found proof of that encryption chip myself — but when I analyzed the USB-C PD traffic with a Power-Z tester, I could clearly see the new Nintendo Switch not behaving like a good USB citizen should. A third-party Switch dock, plugged into a USB-C PD tester, about to be plugged into the Switch 2. Please forgive the terrible photo. A third-party Switch dock, plugged into a USB-C PD tester, about to be plugged into the Switch 2. Please forgive the terrible photo. Photo: Sean Hollister / The Verge

If you’ve been wondering why there are basically no portable Switch 2 docks on the market, this is the reason. Even Jsaux, the company that built its reputation by beating the Steam Deck dock to market, tells us it’s paused its plans to build a Switch 2 dock because of Nintendo’s actions. It’s not simply because the Switch 2 now requires more voltage, as was previously reported; it’s that Nintendo has made things even more difficult this generation. How docking works

That “U” in USB isn’t always “universal,” but this is generally true: if you plug any USB-C to HDMI adapter, dock, or hub into a USB-C laptop, tablet or handheld that supports USB-C video output, you can expect to see your screen automatically appear on your TV.

The magic is normally possible because of a simple, standardized set of instructions that any manufacturer can follow to make their docking station or hub “talk” to the computer. Subscribe to The Verge to continue reading. More in this stream See all We confirmed Nintendo’s Switch 2 TV dock supports VRR — so why doesn’t it work with Switch 2? Sean HollisterJul 3 12 Can you spot an authentication chip in the Nintendo Switch 2’s dock? Sean HollisterJul 2 9 Obsbot will update its Tiny and Meet webcams for Nintendo Switch 2. Sean HollisterJul 2 More in Report We confirmed Nintendo’s Switch 2 TV dock supports VRR — so why doesn’t it work with Switch 2? We confirmed Nintendo’s Switch 2 TV dock supports VRR — so why doesn’t it work with Switch 2? Sean HollisterJul 3 12 Meet Soham Parekh, the engineer burning through tech by working at three to four startups simultaneously Meet Soham Parekh, the engineer burning through tech by working at three to four startups simultaneously Emma RothJul 3 20 Can the music industry make AI the next Napster? Can the music industry make AI the next Napster? Elizabeth LopattoJul 1 15 ‘We are the media now’ ‘We are the media now’ Mack DeGeurinJun 29 101 Reddit turns 20, and it’s going big on AI Reddit turns 20, and it’s going big on AI Jay PetersJun 28 24 The Nintendo Switch 2 webcam compatibility mystery is solved and updates are on the way The Nintendo Switch 2 webcam compatibility mystery is solved and updates are on the way Sean HollisterJun 26 14 Top Stories An hour ago The American system of democracy has crashed Two hours ago This is not a tattoo robot 2:37 AM EDT The Loop Micro is my new favorite bicycle phone mount Jul 3 Deerhoof did not want its music ‘funding AI battle tech’ — so it ditched Spotify Jul 3 Meet Soham Parekh, the engineer burning through tech by working at three to four startups simultaneously Jul 3 A guide to the best sci-fi streaming this summer


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Zarxrax, do games w Nvidia Announces RTX 50's Graphic Card Blackwell Series: RTX 5090 ($1999), RTX 5080 ($999), RTX 5070 Ti ($749), RTX 5070 ($549)

LOL, their demo shows Cyberpunk running at a mere 27fps on the 5090 with DLSS off. Is that supposed to sell me on this product?

Poopfeast420,
@Poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

The 4090 gets like sub 20fps without DLSS and stuff. Seems like a good improvement.

kat,
@kat@orbi.camp avatar

Barely

Poopfeast420,
@Poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

50% improvement not enough for you?

kat,
@kat@orbi.camp avatar

Not every game has frame gen… not everybody wanna introduce lag to input. So 50% is 100% sketchy marketing. You can keep your 7 frames, Imma wait for 6090

Poopfeast420,
@Poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Both figures are without DLSS, FG, whatever. Just native 4k with Path Tracing enabled, that’s why it’s so low.

The sketchy marketing is comparing a 5070 with a 4090, but that’s not what this is about.

kat,
@kat@orbi.camp avatar

Like I said, I base performance without frame gen. 5090 is not twice as powerful as a 4090, which they advertise, without frame gen.

WereCat,

Whether it’s 50% or 200% it’s pointless if the avg FPS can’t even reach the bare minimum of 30.

Poopfeast420,
@Poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

What does that have to do with anything?

Blackmist,

Their whole gaming business model now is encouraging devs to stick features that have no hope of rendering quickly in order to sell this new frame generation rubbish.

ieatpwns, do games w Here are the patents Nintendo and The Pokémon Company are suing Palworld over

Did they file those patents after palworld came out?

DoucheBagMcSwag,

Yes they did

Stovetop,

Filed before, updated and approved after.

ghashul, do gaming w The Elder Scrolls VI will skip PS5 and isn’t coming until at least 2026

I would be surprised if it released in 2026.

Mothra, do gaming w Epic just won its Google lawsuit again, and Android may never be the same
@Mothra@mander.xyz avatar

If you were OOTL and confused af, here is a paragraph that makes it easier to understand:

The consequences of the full permanent injunction would stretch far beyond Epic’s own store and its game Fortnite. They would force Google to effectively open up its app store to competition for three whole years. Google would have to distribute other rival app stores within the Google Play store, too, give rivals access to the full catalog of Google Play apps, and it would be banned from a variety of anticompetitive practices including a requirement that apps use Google Play Billing. You can read a summary of the details here.

masterspace, (edited )

This judge actually fully understand how companies abuse two sided marketplaces and is thus forcing Google to open up both sides of the marketplace to competition. Both forcing Google to host new app stores inside the Play store so that they’re visible to consumers, and forcing Google to allow those app stores to distribute the Google Play apps so that the app stores aren’t crippled by a lack of developers.

This is a way way way bigger win than I could ever have hoped for.

scintilla,

That’s actually fucking crazy for an american judge. Hope it actually happens.

masterspace,

Yeah, it would not surprise me if the Supreme Court blocked it for being too reasonable.

Fredthefishlord,

I’m hoping that supreme court is too tech deaf to even understand the implications this has on corps, and so that they don’t take this ruling back

JackbyDev,

Yeah, remember how big of a stink Internet Explorer on Windows was in the 90s? Imagine if Internet Explorer blocked you from downloading other browsers. That’s basically what Google Play Store has been doing. Why it’s taken this long to get fixed is beyond me, but I’m glad it’s happening.

Hits the griddy with Thanos or something, idk, I don’t play Fortnite.

parpol, do games w California’s new law forces digital stores to admit you’re just licensing content, not buying it

They will get around it. Instead I suggest that buy buttons should say what you’re buying.

For example: Just “buy” should not be allowed.

“Buy License” or “Rent Game” for games with DRM. “Buy game” where you own your digital copy and can do whatever you want with it.

Kolanaki,
!deleted6508 avatar

“Buy game” where you own your digital copy and can do whatever you want with it.

We ain’t ever seein’ that one.

parpol,

Probably not. Still “buy licence” at least gives us more transparency.

turtle,

Even better, “buy non-transferable license”, because that’s technically what it is.

iAmTheTot,

How would it work, anyway?

mnemonicmonkeys,

GOG

atrielienz,

Is still only licensing you the game regardless of whether or not you can download it and play it offline without a problem.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

If they can’t take it away from you after you bought it, I think I can still call it ownership.

atrielienz, (edited )

There is a bigger barrier to them being able to take it away from you. But they absolutely can. Broadcast content like a movie or TV show illegally, and see what happens.

This is about the medium by which the license is provided, there is no doubt whatsoever that the license is the same. This has been proven repeatedly. The difference here is that the distributor can be legally forced to remove the content by the owner of the media. So, if for instance you order a physical disc and pay for it ahead of time and then the place you order from loses the right to distribute that disc, you absolutely won’t get it in the mail because they’re required to send it back to the owner.

You’d likely get a refund in that case but that’s because you didn’t get to actually enjoy that media at all. But buying a license to a show on Amazon or something is different only because it’s likely that they have pull the show after you paid for it and outside the return window. Meaning in theory you have enjoyed or consumed the media you paid for. So the license is legal.

What really needs to change imo isn’t the transparency. This discussion keeps being had repeatedly and people keep being outraged by it as if they have never heard that this can happen. Its been 20 some odd years of this and I would think it would be common knowledge by now.

What really needs to change is the terms by which the owner who licenses the content in the first place should either be required to provide a refund or equivalent on a different platform, or they should be the ones held liable for their terminology in the licensing agreement that would require that license to be null and void for people who have already purchased it.

But literally every single time I say this people get upset about it and nobody can explain why.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Broadcast content like a movie or TV show illegally, and see what happens.

Yeah, that’s because you own the property, not the intellectual property. This is copyright law, not an affront to your ownership. When you “buy” a movie digitally on Amazon, you’re only buying access to their copy of the movie. Amazon bought the right to distribute it to you. When that contract expires, they can’t distribute it to you anymore. That’s why it’s not ownership. When you buy a game on GOG, you download the installer, and they cannot take it away from you, no matter how hard they try; that’s their whole shtick.

But literally every single time I say this people get upset about it and nobody can explain why.

Someone has probably explained the above to you before.

bitfucker,

On the basis of technicality, it will depend very wildly on the ToC of said intellectual property. As you said, GOG just distributes the installer and that is it, the IP holder can technically revoke your/GOG license if that is in the ToC somewhere.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

So what if they did? Are they going to give me a court summons to destroy my copy and all of my backups of the game? I don’t think so.

bitfucker,

Yeah, hence why I said that technically the license can be revoked. Enforcing that is another matter. Without going into the weeds, we need to rethink how to handle it. At minimum, we need to make sure that if the license is revoked not from breaking ToS, the Copyright/IP holder must refund the purchase too. The copyright/ip holder still has the right to their creation but the consumer is also protected via those refund. It is indeed not bulletproof but whether you like it or not, copyright/ip protection is needed to some extent.

turtle,

Not trying to argue, but I don’t believe I can re-sell my copy of a game I “bought” on GOG, so in my view that’s not full ownership as most people understand it. If you’re a full, legal owner of some property, you can sell that property anywhere you like.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

I can think of some other exceptions, but they’re usually large, dangerous, or otherwise regulated as such, yet you’re still an owner of it.

60fpsrefugee,

I’m ok with distribution restriction of digital good because the nature of it. Unless you want to nft-ize your copy.

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

You just repeated the proposal.

Shadywack, do games w Epic is giving away 17 games as part of its holiday sale
@Shadywack@lemmy.world avatar

Until Bungie gives me back the content I already paid for, that company can rot in hell. I feel for the devs who point stuff out to leadership and tell them exactly what they need to do to fix their reputation, but the leadership saying “player’s still love us” means that piece of shit scumbag, Pete Parsons, can go get dry fucked by splintering balsa wood.

I won’t play the Legacy Collection, not even when it’s free. Fuck you, Bung-hole.

Zahille7,

I stopped playing way back during Forsaken, and even then I was getting soured on the game.

Then I found out they effectively deleted the first couple year’s worth of content and I got pissed off for the community.

SuperSaiyanSwag,

Little off-topic, but bungie is struggling right now. They may get fully absorbed by Sony since they are not hitting their revenue targets.

Shadywack,
@Shadywack@lemmy.world avatar

I should only hope so.

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

Oh well, maybe they should have made better games instead of looter shooter grind fests that were an obvious trend and not actually a fun fucking game play loop.

miguel, do games w Microsoft and Asus’ Xbox handheld appears in leaked photos
@miguel@fedia.io avatar

Oh look, the MS steamwreck.

SkunkWorkz, do games w A fake Nintendo lawyer is scaring YouTubers, and it’s not clear YouTube can stop him

The troll was able to spoof the Nintendo.co.jp domain because Nintendo didn’t setup their DMARC settings correctly. They have it setup but with policy “none” instead of “reject”. What a bunch of dumb asses. Such a big company doesn’t even protect their domains against spoofing. Probably why they got hacked, they don’t invest enough in IT security. Though this is typical for Japanese corporations.

mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=dmarc%3aNinte…

ArcaneSlime,

Probably why they got hacked,

Which time lmao, weren’t there like 4 gigaleaks?

dubyakay,

Well, they still use internet Explorer, http sans s and fax machines.

When asked why, their response, roughly translated, was “we just want to play eroge ¯_(ツ)_/¯”

eronth,

Bruh nintendo seems starkly opposed to getting even ok at modern networking.

lvxferre, do gaming w Nintendo and Pokémon are suing Palworld maker Pocketpair
@lvxferre@mander.xyz avatar

Claiming “multiple patent rights” without mentioning smells like kafkatrapping.

I think that Nintendo’s delayed reaction was to gauge how much money it could get from bullying Pocketpair to accept some unfavourable settlement outside the court; if too little the costs would be too high to bother, considering the risk, but now that Palworld sold a bazillion it’s more profitable to do so. It might actually backfire if Palworld decides to go through the whole thing, I don’t know how Japanese law works in this regard but if Nintendo loses this certainly won’t look good for them, and even if they win it might be a pyrrhic victory.

thingsiplay,

Claiming “multiple patent rights” without mentioning smells like kafkatrapping.

No, this is normal. If there is a case, then it needs to be handled in the court first.

lvxferre,
@lvxferre@mander.xyz avatar

Good catch - you’re right.

Rozauhtuno,

Good catch

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