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Gerudo, do games w Microsoft’s Forza Motorsport developer hit hard by Xbox cuts

Forza is bread and butter for Microsoft, just like Halo and Gears. They really are shooting themselves in the foot with this. Forza originally got me on Xbox, and to be honest, it is a huge reason I am still on it as my main console.

absquatulate,

It may be, and I feel for Turn10, but they really dropped the ball with the latest motorsport. It only has like a few hundred players on steam, after two years of essentially live service game. Of course the game itself is fine, it’s the “update trickles” and “grind to own” philosophies that are at fault and those were probably decisions also pushed by MS, but here we are. I really hope that Playground doesn’t screw up their next Forza, because rhey might meet the same fate. Then again these days success doesn’t guarantee you’re not getting the axe.

Gerudo,

I totally get what you’re saying, but using steam numbers to judge how active an Xbox game is not fair. Steam isn’t the native player base. It’s far more active on console and still draws solid numbers.
I do agree with the grind being a bit much on the latest, though.

absquatulate,

Yeah, I was just trying to get the point across and didn’t really have other recent metrics. Just checked and it grew to 1k avg users per day after the most recent update and is now 15x less active than FH5, if that paints a more accurate picture.

RightHandOfIkaros,

Halo hasn’t been bread and butter since Bungie developed Reach.

343 has not done Halo any favors, and 343 With A Mustache “Halo Studios” is going to be exactly the same.

altima_neo, do gaming w Crysis 4 is on hold as developer Crytek announces layoffs
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

I swear the only crytek news I ever hear is them announcing layoffs and closures. I don’t know how they’re still around with no games released in ages.

Bronzebeard,

Their games were an advertisement for their game engine. Cryengine

ElectroLisa,
@ElectroLisa@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Hunt: Showdown, but it’s also not doing well

DoucheBagMcSwag,

What’s going on? Bleeding playerbase?

ElectroLisa,
@ElectroLisa@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Long-standing technical issues aren’t being resolved and instead they’re adding themed/branded cosmetics (Post Malone, Ghost Face), which raises concerns on their priorities for the game

DoucheBagMcSwag,

Yuck. Well there goes my potential interest

Toribor,
@Toribor@corndog.social avatar

At one point the Cryengine was going to be the future of gaming and then… Nothing. There were like two games ever to actually use it.

BurningRiver,

Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 is pretty damn good imo.

HappyFrog,

I only know of Crysis and then there was a Slender game made in it.

ByteOnBikes, do games w Marvel Snap is banned, just like TikTok

Rumor mill is already spreading like wildfire.

Commenters are concerned about League of Legends and every other Chinese owned game studio without a US backer.

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iltoroargento, do gaming w Nintendo has reportedly shut down Ryujinx, the Switch emulator that was supposedly immune
@iltoroargento@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Lol it’s like Nintendo just wants to back itself into a corner and waste away with its IP. Jeez. I honestly have no desire to purchase anything from them anymore.

I still emulate a solid amount of their games I’ve had for most of my life because I don’t want to wear down my old hardware.

They haven’t gotten a cent out of me since the GameCube, though, so I understand I’m probably not going to be their target audience anymore.

Edit: Mobile, *its not “it’s”

Chozo,
@Chozo@fedia.io avatar

Lol it's like Nintendo just wants to back itself into a corner and waste away with its IP.

This is a Switch emulator, meaning these are games that are still available for sale. It's not like taking down a SNES emulator or something Nintendo hasn't made available for 30+ years, it's involving games they're selling today. Taking down an emulator is literally Nintendo protecting its IP.

I honestly have no desire to purchase anything from them anymore.

If you were using this emulator, you weren't likely purchasing anything from them in the first place. And I'm no doctor, but... I'd have to imagine that's likely the reason Nintendo took this down to begin with.

iltoroargento,
@iltoroargento@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I getcha, just have not been stoked about Nintendo’s continual deathmarch against the hydra of emulation.

I honestly think it’s more of a waste of money than it’s actually worth and the publicity of taking down emulation sites is pretty bad for them (especially when they take down ones which deal with largely abandonware or really old games, like Vimm’s lair did).

Without getting into the debate over the ethics of piracy or anti consumer practices, jumping into the fray by aggressively litigating and making a splash like Nintendo and Sony seem to focus on likely hurts their bottom line and certainly hurts their reputation with consumers.

missingno,
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While I don't support pirating products that are currently for sale, I do think it's essential that emulators like Ryujinx are developed now in order to preserve titles for later. Some Switch software already has been delisted, and someday eventually all of it will be.

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

While I don’t support pirating products that are currently for sale

I do when Nintendo refuses to make them available on other (higher quality) hardware and also treats their paying consumers and fans like scum. I can boot up Doom on any of a dozen different computers 30 years later and play to my heart’s content but that’s not an option for Nintendo. Piracy generally is completely justified by a vast array of anti-consumer bullshit. If they can’t make games without resorting to that bullshit, fuck 'em. I hope they go under.

iltoroargento,
@iltoroargento@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

The delisting is what gets me most (and we’re dealing with that in basically every media catalogue from film/tv to games).

Well, that and the blatant cash grabs I see with rereleases that end up being console specific and basically unsupported like with the cases of the Wii store and basically every iteration of their online stores since.

I played Wii and eventually Wii U with buddies for smash but am glad I didn’t own the systems. I know one of my friends gave a lot of money to Nintendo multiple times getting classics like Pokemon Snap and other nostalgia buys on multiple systems.

My most recent experience with Nintendo was borrowing a buddy’s switch to play Breath of the Wild back around when it came out. I’m pretty meh on their new content and by the way a lot of their recent releases were received, I’m not super interested. Might bug someone to play the Pokemon Arceus one which seems kinda cool, but that would be the extent of my interest and it’s not really nagging at me, anyway.

My main gripe is that they seem to be doing the bare minimum with their IP (with little innovation in the field/botched releases) and wasting money/resources on what I see as frivolous, shortsighted, lawsuits in the name of protecting their property as well as corporate heavy production that ends up with forgettable and formulaic games.

Maybe I am now become old, but I don’t care to see the most recent iteration of the Pokemon, Zelda, Mario, or Smash Bros sagas and am perfectly content with replaying N64 to GameCube classics in those series. Probably doesn’t help that I went to college with a bunch of friends who hung out and played Project M with some Halo 3 or Reach sprinkled in for variety lol.

theangriestbird, (edited )

If you were using this emulator, you weren’t likely purchasing anything from them in the first place. And I’m no doctor, but… I’d have to imagine that’s likely the reason Nintendo took this down to begin with.

Actually…I own a Switch and paid full price for TOTK on launch week. But playing the game in 30fps chunky resolution was very painful for me, as i’ve gotten quite used to 60fps+ over the last few years with 3D games. I almost put the game down in the first hour or so, playing the game was literally making my eyes hurt. That’s when i went poking into the Switch emulation scene and set up yuzu (RIP). Within a few hours i was playing TOTK at 60fps 1440p and it was mostly glitch free. I put another 20 hours into the game before putting that down. But it was a glorious 20 hours, as that game is absolutely beautiful when you can wipe away the greasy look of 30fps low-res Switch graphics.

So…I am a Nintendo customer that was getting a better experience out of my purchased Nintendo game by emulating it. I know that isn’t everyone in this scene - I see the reddit posts everyday for the past week about people playing leaked Echoes* of Wisdom. I get why that shit would piss Nintendo off. It just sucks that now, others can’t share the amazing experience I had with TOTK.

LoamImprovement,

It’s funny, I own a switch and I would have bought the game (and I probably will still if the technical and QoL issues get resolved) but I’m emulating it better than the hardware can run it right now.

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

No one hates Nintendo players more than Nintendo

cupcakezealot,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Lol it’s like Nintendo just wants to back itself into a corner and waste away with its IP. Jeez. I honestly have no desire to purchase anything from them anymore.

pretty sure the only reason nintendo cared is because ryujinx was prominently displayed in the leaked footage of echos of wisdom, pre launch

iltoroargento,
@iltoroargento@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Nintendo’s been way too busy in this scene for too long a time for that to be the only reason. I can see that such a leak wouldn’t help, but they’ve been pouring money into these cases for years and have really ramped it up in the last five or so

therealjcdenton, do games w Sony announces the PS5 Pro with a larger GPU, advanced ray tracing, and AI upscaling

Awesome, I can pay $700 to play Bloodborne in 30 fps

TonyTonyChopper,
@TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz avatar

No no they’re going to make Bloodbore 30th anniversary re-release PS5 Pro Exclusive with 45 fps

conciselyverbose, (edited ) do gaming w Black Myth: Wukong is too mediocre for all this drama

OK, but the context matters.

Part of the context is that most of those sales are probably to China, and that despite the big global numbers, it’s probably not not the same level of success in the Western world as the steam sales imply.

Part of the context is that game sales have never meant a game is actually good.

But part of that context is that it’s the first real effort from China at a real AAA, single player game, and the differences in government and culture are part of the conversation.

And part of the context is that China is a huge, largely untapped market for AAA single player games, and publishers are going to notice that and push games to do some of the things other media have done to be more palatable to that market (most think to the detriment of quality by western standards).

I’m not hyper interested in the game (I’d probably try a demo), but it’s being talked about because it actually affects the gaming industry.

UltraGiGaGigantic, do gaming w Black Myth: Wukong is too mediocre for all this drama
@UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml avatar

Seems to be a theme with flops these days. “Oh you don’t hate the movie, you hate XYZ”

Nice try marketing assholes. Quit your fake ass job and contribute to society.

davel,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

Wut. The reason we’re talking about it at all is because it’s a success, not a flop.

Virkkunen,
@Virkkunen@fedia.io avatar

People would still be talking about it if it were a flop, nonetheless this game has sold almost 2.5 million copies on Steam alone, far from being a flop.

istanbullu,

Looks like more than 10M sales already across all platforms.

scorp,
@scorp@lemmy.ml avatar

this game is the literal antonym of ‘flop’

istanbullu,

Wukong is not a flop. It’s one of the most successful sales ever: www.tweaktown.com/news/100102/…/index.html

notnotmike, do gaming w Dr Disrespect finally shares why he was banned from Twitch
@notnotmike@programming.dev avatar

Didn’t he cheat on his wife and get caught as well?

0xtero, do gaming w Dr Disrespect finally shares why he was banned from Twitch

Dr. Disrespect: I’ll fucking own this problem!
Also Dr. Disrespect: Owns up to inappropriate message exchange with a minor.

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rozodru, do gaming w Twitch banned Dr Disrespect after viewing messages sent to a minor, say former employees
@rozodru@lemmy.ca avatar

in 2017 Guy Beahm (drdisrespect) admitted to cheating on his wife on stream. Today in his twitter message he admits to inappropriately talking to a minor in…2017.

good lord I REALLY hope this dude wasn’t cheating on his wife with kids.

stardust, do games w Meta wants to be the Microsoft of headsets

I decided to wait for Valve standalone. Even if it never comes out I’d rather keep waiting than get a meta headset.

RaoulDook,

The Valve Index is here already and great. No bullshit like the Quest, just VR that works well. If you have a gaming PC with at least a quad-core and RTX 3060 then you should be good to get started with one. Mine works fine on a 9-year old gaming PC with 6 cores, 16GB RAM, and an RTX 3060TI. The motherboard is that old, the rest of the parts are newer (mostly GPU)

Kolanaki,
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The index isn’t standalone 🤦‍♂️

RaoulDook,

Yeah no shit. Standalone isn’t as good as wired because you can’t fit a bigass Nvidia card inside a VR headset.

Kolanaki,
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I own a lot of VR games and the only one that doesn’t have a port that works natively on the Quest is Half-Life Alyx. Standalones can also be plugged in or stream PCVR wirelessly, and all of the standalone HMDs I am aware of, have better hardware than the aging Index (and thus look better even when not doing PCVR). Even the trackers are better and smaller and don’t require a home base station.

RaoulDook,

No, the Index still has a higher resolution than the Quest2 and earlier standalone VR headsets, and the Index still has a class-leading 130-degree field of view and 144Hz refresh rate. It has excellent sound and the best VR controllers on the market. It’s still an overall great VR setup for those of us that have good gaming PCs.

I’ve been playing Dark Souls, Elden Ring, and Cyberpunk 2077 in VR on my Index recently using mods. It’s fuckin’ awesome.

Kolanaki,
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The Index still has a higher resolution than the Quest 2 and earlier standalone VR headsets

Uh… The Index has a resolution of 1440x1600 per eye with 15PPD. The Quest 2 is 1832x1920 per eye with 20PPD. The Quest 1 had the exact same resolution as the Index. The Quest 3 is 2064x2208 per eye and Pico 4 is 2160x4320 per eye. The Index doesn’t lead the FOV game anymore, either; but the beasts with 200+ FOV are also super expensive and better in every other way too like the Pimax Vision.

I like Valve, too, but they’re not the best at everything.

davidgro,

I think by standalone they mean ‘no PC’. Like the Quest ones that run the games on themselves.

vikingtons,
@vikingtons@lemmy.world avatar

They’re thinking of something that can work unteathered to a PC, like the rumoured valve deckard system

RaoulDook,

Right but you can’t buy one of those, they aren’t on the market. What Valve has currently is excellent already but you can’t walk around town wearing it (as if anyone would need to)

vikingtons,
@vikingtons@lemmy.world avatar

I get you but that’s not what the commenter above is looking for.

I know the Index is fantastic and I’m truly happy for you, but I can appreciate other people being in the market for high fidelity VR with a substantially lower asking price (along with a lower total cost of ownership as a standalone system).

We can’t let meta pull ahead in this industry unchecked, and I really hope Valve (or literally anybody else) can step up to this segment in the near future.

RandomLegend, do gaming w Microsoft lays off 1,900 Activision Blizzard and Xbox employees
@RandomLegend@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

i still remember the days where people were dreaming of become game developers. Being able to make a living by creating what you love the most.

Nowadays you are either an indie developer hoping to scrape enough by streaming on twitch and making devlogs on youtube, or you’re in big industry and pray you’re not part of the next big wave of layoffs…

0xtero,

I think this has more to do with mergers and acquisitions than game development. When two companies merge certain administrative functions become redundant because the acquiring company already has that function. Doubt they actually fire any devs

Hypx, (edited )
@Hypx@kbin.social avatar

It is how giant publishing houses self-destruct in the gaming space. They fail to realize how difficult it is to build up talented devteams. Everything becomes about maximizing profits in the end. Between the shitty monetization tactics and the terrible working environment they've created, they end up destroying their ability to make good games. I fully expect more mediocrity from Xbox/Activision-Blizzard, if not declining quality.

dan1101, do gaming w Ubisoft blames ‘technical error’ for showing pop-up ads in Assassin’s Creed

A technical error doesn’t result in popup ads. The code had to already be there.

alyaza, do gaming w Former Kotaku writers are launching a new video game site — and they own it this time
@alyaza@beehaw.org avatar

you can read their introduction here

RiikkaTheIcePrincess,
@RiikkaTheIcePrincess@kbin.social avatar

Thanks for the link. Seems like the place could be easier to find :-\

gataloca, do games w Microsoft’s Activision Blizzard deal approved by UK regulators

Out of all these studios I suppose I like Microsoft’s games the most, but I still think it’s bad that the regulators didn’t shoot down this merger from the view of competitiveness.

I don’t think the gaming market is healthy when only a handful of corporations like Microsoft, Ubisoft, EA Games and SquareEnix hold what I assume to be 75% of the gaming AAA market. It restricts creativity and stifles competition and the ones paying the price are going to be us consumers.

Even worse if they go and start vendor locking games to Windows, which sucks for us Linux gamers or Xbox which sucks for Playstation gamers.

kadu,
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  • Katana314,

    Steam Deck has put a small thorn in their OS side. It used to be ridiculous to have a Linux gaming computer, but it’s become much more viable thanks to the Deck’s existence.

    Basically to say Microsoft wouldn’t be able to pull a massive move like requiring Windows subscription prices without a lot of gamers going to Linux.

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