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dino, do gaming w Here’s how much Valve pays its staff — and how few people it employs

Artifact, Heroes of the Storm etc. those are not success stories of recent Valve.

smeg,

HotS is a Blizzard game, Valve has DOTA2

dino,

facepalm I truly mixed that in my brain. But Valve also has this Dota Chess Game, right? Not sure if you would count that as a success though, have totally lost track of it.

smeg,

I’ve not played Half Life Alyx but people seemed to like it. And let’s not forget the huge success of the Steam Deck!

astrionic,

You’re thinking of Dota Underlords, which was popular for a short time but then quickly got abandoned. I definitely wouldn’t count it as a success.

jaxiiruff, do gaming w Microsoft is hiking the price of Xbox Game Pass Ultimate and launching a new “Standard” tier

Cant wait for gamepass to cost like $60 a month in a couple years only for people to continue to stay subscribed cause they were successfully trapped and dont want to lose access to the old games they like playing.

Thassodar,

I’ve successfully left Gamepass for over a year and came back recently, no problem. All my saves were still on their cloud from two years ago, and I had access to games I wouldn’t have considered buying, like Lies of P.

jaxiiruff,

Yeah you had to resubscribe or buy the games again. Years down the line you may want to play older games much more than newer ones but the service decides to value itself on the new.

averyminya,

I feel like this is looking at it from the wrong perspective… Looking at it like that, it is just trying to use a service in a way that it isn’t intended. Don’t get me wrong, I’m super anti-subscription and anti-gamepass, but I don’t feel like much of MS Gamepass is trying to sell you on having these games forever. It’s a way to let you try a library of games that you might not have felt was worth paying for individually – I have almost no interest in playing the next Battlefield games, but with Gamepass I can try out Jedi Survivor alongside however many other games I want to check out.

It’s a more straightforward Playstation Plus, with much less of that vibe of trying to get you to keep paying on a fear of missing out on “free” games that you’re paying monthly to own. Both of these digital storefronts are selling you the exact same premise, but promote them in different ways. PSN says hey, you get 2 games a month for paying for online services, and they stack. (I think now it’s actually a PSN library, similar to MS though?). MS says hey, you get 40+ games a month for paying for our subscription, and you get a discount if you want to buy one.

If I actually like one of the games, the cost of the subscription is removed from the total price of the game, effectively meaning if there are 2 games you like enough to buy, the subscription is somewhat worth it if you don’t mind having it tied to Microsoft.

Basically, Gamepass isn’t supposed to replace your main game library, it’s a digital game rental service. Yes, you absolutely can rent out a single game, or even 30 games, for the next 10 years. And everyone would judge you for making that poor decision to rent them for that long, when you could have bought it with the discount. Should companies be able to offer something that the consumer can ignore and get screwed over by? I’m not sure. Probably not. But I also don’t think I can really call this scummy, unlike some of their other moves. If in 10 years someone’s library only consists of games played through Gamepass, and they are afraid to unsubscribe… How many games would that realistically be? The Gamepass library isn’t that large, nor has it rotated that many games.

Again, very anti-subscription and overall anti-Gamepass, but I think in this example it’s kind of on the person if they choose to rent a game for the next 10 years. If you like the game, why not buy it? Why would this person be locked into paying for Gamepass for so long? Because their account has other games they may or may not decide to play at any given time? I personally just don’t see the issue for this particular case, unless I’m missing something or not understanding where you’re coming from with it.

NoIWontPickAName,

I just buy the ones I like, especially once they leave game pass and go on a huge sale

Hdcase,

I think a lot of people will end up unsubscribing and then buying the games they miss.

Father_Redbeard,
@Father_Redbeard@lemmy.ml avatar

I hope there’s a deal exploit like buying 3 years of GP for $3-4/mo by using a VPN like I did about a year ago. If not, I won’t be subscribing and will likely get rid of my series X. I’ve been very disappointed in it anyway. Oh well, still have the original and the 360…

megopie, do gaming w Microsoft is hiking the price of Xbox Game Pass Ultimate and launching a new “Standard” tier

I think Microsoft has been trying to build towards cloud computing of everything on user devices.

Games pass seems to have been them building towards a Google stadia type system. Getting a large user base of monthly subscribers used to Spotify like game experience, and then slowly running more and more off of the user device.

The contraction of studios, internal fighting, and this price hike makes me think they’re is some internal opposition to go all in on this, even as they go full speed ahead on the windows side of things.

th_in_gs, do gaming w Microsoft is hiking the price of Xbox Game Pass Ultimate and launching a new “Standard” tier

Do you still have to buy some tier of gamepass to be able to play multiplayer games that you own online?

TurboHarbinger, do gaming w Microsoft is hiking the price of Xbox Game Pass Ultimate and launching a new “Standard” tier

I was waiting for CoD games to be in gamepass so I could play those 6-8h campaigns (not interested in mp), not worth even at 50%discount.

Now I guess if Xbox is going to release new high profile games on gamepass, its going to be always the premium sub.

GammaGames, do gaming w Microsoft is hiking the price of Xbox Game Pass Ultimate and launching a new “Standard” tier

The new standard option also include online console multiplayer access, which is something that Xbox Game Pass for Console lacked previously.

The standard tier sounds decent, loss of release day games but I’m guessing they’re expecting CoD to push people to the higher tier.

Hdcase,

Game Pass used to mean all first party games, day one, and now 2/3 tiers on console won’t have that. It’s a pretty shocking turnaround.

GammaGames,

You’re right, it’s a pretty big downgrade and probably reason enough to cancel for a lot. Especially with CoD, they could save the subscription for a few months and then buy it and keep it.

onlooker, do gaming w Microsoft is hiking the price of Xbox Game Pass Ultimate and launching a new “Standard” tier
@onlooker@lemmy.ml avatar

Not surprising. Either this was their long game or MS is in crisis mode, because lately they haven’t been doing so hot.

0xtero, do gaming w Microsoft is hiking the price of Xbox Game Pass Ultimate and launching a new “Standard” tier

It’s the circle of enshittification

PoolloverNathan,

♪ It’s the ciiircle of shiiiiiiiit ♪

DoucheBagMcSwag, (edited ) do gaming w Microsoft is hiking the price of Xbox Game Pass Ultimate and launching a new “Standard” tier

My wife called this right after the call of duty game pass leak happened

jprice, do gaming w Microsoft is hiking the price of Xbox Game Pass Ultimate and launching a new “Standard” tier

Perfect timing, just when Xbox is lagging in sales. Typical shit Microsoft.

Hdcase,

Surely this will turn things around for them 🙄

HubertManne, do gaming w Microsoft is hiking the price of Xbox Game Pass Ultimate and launching a new “Standard” tier

A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

cm0002, do gaming w Microsoft is hiking the price of Xbox Game Pass Ultimate and launching a new “Standard” tier
@cm0002@lemmy.world avatar

Meh, still a good value IMO, at $240/yr I just need to play 3 60$ games/yr and I currently average about 4 maybe 5 a year. Not to mention the money I save when I don’t like a game, I would have bought starfield if not for GP and that would have been 60 bucks wasted right there since I dropped it after a month lol

IsThisAnAI,

The man spoke the truth but they would not listen.

Between game fly and this I played probably $2000 worth of games for like $300.

UrLogicFails, do gaming w Microsoft is hiking the price of Xbox Game Pass Ultimate and launching a new “Standard” tier

I can’t say I’m surprised to see Gamepass get a price hike; it always seemed like it was in the loss leader stage to try to grow market share.

I wonder what the reasoning was to institute the hike now, though, since I’m not sure how strong their market share actually is on it.

My theory is that either:

  • Microsoft is tired of footing the bill and expects results now
  • Microsoft/ Xbox think they have enough market share, so it is time to stop cultivating and time to start harvesting

My understanding is they are still releasing new Series S models, which are basically just Gamepass machines; so I would expect they are not happy with their current market share (though corporations literally never are), which makes me think it’s the former option, not the latter.

All that being said, I wonder how much the price can increase before the value proposition of Gamepass is moot. Right now 20 USD a month doesn’t sound bad as long as you’re playing at least one new game a month, but I wonder how much more room there is in the price before the number of games you would need to play becomes unreasonable.

Personally, I’ve never been a fan of the Gamepass model since I like owning my games physically (it’s the main reason I prefer console to PC), so I don’t have much of a horse in this race; but I will be interested to see what becomes of Gamepass in the long term.

GammaGames,

I’ve only really used it to try out new games, it’s a great deal if you only use it for a month at a time!

AceSLS, do gaming w Microsoft is hiking the price of Xbox Game Pass Ultimate and launching a new “Standard” tier

To the serprise of: absolutely noone

SatansMaggotyCumFart, do games w A new Resident Evil is in the works

I hope it goes back to the more action heavy five or six.

Those were my favourites.

BroBot9000,
@BroBot9000@lemmy.world avatar

Please no.

7 just got them back to their horror roots. We don’t need another generic action flick like the mess that was 6.

SatansMaggotyCumFart,

What about an adaptation of the 2002 Resident Evil movie starring Milla Jovovich because that was the movie that started the franchise.

BroBot9000,
@BroBot9000@lemmy.world avatar

Rather have them burn the franchise down and make something original before getting desperate enough to dig up that turd.

SatansMaggotyCumFart,

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  • BroBot9000,
    @BroBot9000@lemmy.world avatar

    The game came out first and you know it troll.

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  • Carighan,
    @Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

    Just report then block him, don’t feed the troll.

    Carighan,
    @Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah I was thinking the same.

    I mean sure, someone needs to make a decent Left 4 Dead 3, yeah. But that should not be Resident Evil, especially considering how mediocre the action-centric titles were in hindsight (they were good for their time though, granted).

    RightHandOfIkaros,

    To be fair, Resident Evil has been action oriented since the original Resident Evil 2. The developers themselves literally said they wanted the series to be more similar to Hollywood action movies.

    MentalEdge,
    @MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

    I’m not sure whether you’re kidding, but I wouldn’t complain either.

    Five and six are not good games, but played in co-op, slightly drunk, they are a riot of cringe, ridiculousness and camp.

    We laughed our asses off in the Ada story sections where the second player constantly pops into existence as a faceless “agent” because Ada doesn’t normally have a companion, but they had to make her sections somehow playable in co-op.

    The games are top tier material to laugh at.

    OpenPassageways,

    I liked the remakes of 2 and 3, and 4.

    5 and 6 were fun to play co-op. I generally prefer third person games, which is why I haven’t played 7.

    5 was over the top, and I like how in 6, there was a marked difference between playing as Ada, Leon vs the more action heavy Chris playthrough.

    They could do another game like 6 but go harder with that concept of picking your play style.

    BroBot9000,
    @BroBot9000@lemmy.world avatar

    Play 7. It’s the vastly superior experience.

    The remakes are fun but I’m with the other commenter saying that I’d rather see Left for Dead 3 get made by a different company and not have to sacrifice a good horror game for a mediocre class based shooter.

    There are tons of games with different classes and play styles. Resident Evil those are not.

    Katana314,

    I’m kind of okay with them going whichever way they have creative ideas. Even RE’s action design has been really fun except when they tried to “streamline” it in RE6.

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