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PunchingWood, (edited ) do games w Sony announces the PS5 Pro with a larger GPU, advanced ray tracing, and AI upscaling

The price increase is insane. That does not seem to scale in comparison with what you’ll get in return over a regular PS5, especially if you’re gonna be forced to buy the digital editions from the PS store, which are outside of the sales often the most expensively priced versions too, I’ve practically only bought second-hand discs for my PS5 because of that.

So either games will start running at higher framerates on real 4K, like 60FPS and up. Or developers will get lazy and stop bothering to optimise for the older generation of PS5, which will then be an excuse to upgrade to the more expensive edition to play at 4K and/or 60FPS.

I really hope the latter won’t be a thing for the sake of both players and game development, there’s been enough unoptimised shit lately and I hope we can move forward again.

RxBrad,
@RxBrad@infosec.pub avatar

That optimization part is what worries me. I still remember games like Control & Cyberpunk being basically unplayable unless you had a PS4 Pro.

PunchingWood,

Yeah I’m afraid that stuff like GTA6 might run like absolute dogshit on the old PS5, because they will see the opportunity to make use of the better hardware to sell the 4K and 60FPS. No doubt even Sony will try to push this, trying to sell more of these Pros.

I do hope we will move forward, but I think money and greed will play too much of a role in this. We don’t even really need a PS5 Pro right now, looking at the current line-up of games that run fine on the old PS5, even in 4K and 60FPS, as long as developers spend the time to optimise their games instead of throwing everything on to raytracing (which I find is still in a very experimental phase).

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

Yep, people have rose tinted glasses but GTA V had a massive pop in issue on the consoles it released, the proper version was the PS4 one. Or PC.

Powerbomb, do games w Sony announces the PS5 Pro with a larger GPU, advanced ray tracing, and AI upscaling

I don’t know if It turns out that I was stupid for not buying the original PS5 or holding out for a Pro one even from back then.

I was looking forward to this a lot because I could get the better version from day 1 and have a lot of games to play from taking and borrowing my brother’s disc games.

I guess I’ll get the XBSX for GTA VI when it comes.

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

Not like holding out matters now, they just raised the price in Japan for the 3rd time, second wind said the controller got 5 dollars more expensive, you can only save with used nowadays.

themurphy, do games w Sony announces the PS5 Pro with a larger GPU, advanced ray tracing, and AI upscaling

Not really on topic, but AI upscaling is no joke. It’s actually very useful and saves alot processing power. Same with the extra fps, making a 30fps into a 60fps with ease.

million,
@million@lemmy.world avatar

Don’t they already use FSR on the 5?

Ashtear,

FSR doesn’t use AI hardware. The original comment is overselling it a bit, but something AI-driven like DLSS does offer substantial (if slightly blurry) framerate gains.

warm,

No game should be running down at 60fps these days, especially with any sort of upscaling. Native performance should be the only measured metric, no need for shortcuts when hardware is as good as it is.

Linkerbaan, do games w Sony announces the PS5 Pro with a larger GPU, advanced ray tracing, and AI upscaling
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

This GPU bump is pretty big it’s almost a PS6. Keeping the old Zen2 CPU is disappointing though.

Vodulas, do gaming w Here are all the games enhanced by PS5 Pro
ATDA, do games w Sony announces the PS5 Pro with a larger GPU, advanced ray tracing, and AI upscaling

I’m sure at some point devs will make good use of the extra power. And by that point this puppy will be half the cost MSRP to snatch up.

theangriestbird, do gaming w Here are all the games enhanced by PS5 Pro

soooo…all 13 games they showed in the release trailer. Coincidentally, also about 90% of all “next gen” exclusive titles. I guess it’s not surprising that games compatible with the PS4 are not getting PS5 Pro upgrades, but it also kind of highlights how Sony has barely taken advantage of the base PS5 as-is.

poshcrow, do games w Sony announces the PS5 Pro with a larger GPU, advanced ray tracing, and AI upscaling

gta 6 gets delayed… sony releases this early to sell more ps6’s ?

poshcrow, do games w Sony announces the PS5 Pro with a larger GPU, advanced ray tracing, and AI upscaling

gta

antithetical, do games w Sony announces the PS5 Pro with a larger GPU, advanced ray tracing, and AI upscaling

So far I’ve traded in all my Playstations for the latest versions. But this price-hike and no disc-drive are a dealbreaker. Guess I’m going for a new gaming PC and a Steam Deck now. Too bad Sony, you messed up.

catalyst, do games w Sony announces the PS5 Pro with a larger GPU, advanced ray tracing, and AI upscaling
@catalyst@lemmy.world avatar

At this price I’m so glad I decided to go for a slim instead of holding out for the pro. Absolutely no way.

lowleveldata, do games w Sony announces the PS5 Pro with a larger GPU, advanced ray tracing, and AI upscaling

How good is the GPU? Is it better than my 4070ti super boi?

warm,

Not even close. Your GPU decimates it.

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

PS5 pro: 33.5 TF 4070ti super: 44 TF

All teraflops are not the same but this is a big enough delta for me to say no, your card is better.

fossphi,

4070 ti super

What? There’s cards with both ti and super in the name?

missingno, do games w Sony announces the PS5 Pro with a larger GPU, advanced ray tracing, and AI upscaling
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

SIX HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE US DOLLARS

sigmaklimgrindset,

FOR NO DISC DRIVE

Aielman15, (edited ) do games w Sony announces the PS5 Pro with a larger GPU, advanced ray tracing, and AI upscaling
@Aielman15@lemmy.world avatar

This generation is already pretty weak, and it was hard to justify the original PS5 which, after a whopping four years, still has too few exclusive titles to justify the increased price point. Now they are asking for $700 (and they increased the controller’s price, too), but there’s still too few next gen titles, and it doesn’t even come with basic features like a disc tray and a vertical mount. Not even a better form factor, it’s the same old ugly case, but somehow bigger.

The only premium thing about this thing is the price tag. $700 dollars but €800, because apparently they are dominating the European market so much that they don’t even have to try to sell it at an honest price point. With all those money you can just buy a PC. I honestly don’t think that many people who are interested in the console market (which, historically, has always been a “low budget” entry into modern gaming) would be willing to spend so much money on one.

I guess we circled back to the PS3 era, when Sony got drunk with overconfidence. Only, this time they’ll get away with it because their main competitor is somehow even more incompetent than them. I wonder if the handheld PC market will pose a threat to their dominance in the future - at the moment, it’s a very small niche.

v4ld1z, (edited )

It’s just so sad. I remember back when the PS4 Pro came out and you could trade in your old PS4 for a little on top to get a Pro at GameStop. It was a night and day difference going from a base PS4 to a Pro - and merely for the price of the console, 3 random games off a list of curated games, two controllers, iirc, and 100€. It was straight gas for me.

Paying 300€ on top - realistically even more because you’re not gonna sell a used PS5 for 500€ nowadays - plus the money for a disc drive and a vertical stand would set you back like 900-1000€. Completely out of their minds

mintiefresh, do games w Sony announces the PS5 Pro with a larger GPU, advanced ray tracing, and AI upscaling
@mintiefresh@lemmy.ca avatar

I can’t see how this is worth it for anyone. Are there even games that are pushing the current PS5?

No disc drive either.

Z3k3,

No disc drive either.

I’m out

redy_velvet,

There are games that perform poorly, but to my understanding that’s not the hardware’s fault

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