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TORFdot0, do games w Microsoft Nintendo acquisition hopes revealed by leaked Xbox exec email

The only company I’d trust to buy Nintendo is Apple. But I’d rather that not happen

OR3X,

FUCK NO

TORFdot0,

Do you mind expanding on why you are opposed to it? To me, the companies have very similar values, especially the “we know what the consumer wants better than the consumer does” attitude and similar values toward being a walled garden with crafted experiences rather than openness.

I know that those things aren’t popular with those who hate apple because of its philosophies and those who think it’s morally correct to pirate Nintendo games; but from a purely business standpoint, Apple would be a much better steward of Nintendo’s IP

OR3X,

My primary concern is that Apple has a bad habit of taking anything that they buy and only making it available within the apple ecosystem. I’m not in the Apple ecosystem and do not wish to be. There are, of course, notable exceptions to this. Apple music comes to mind.

TORFdot0,

A very valid concern. Thank you.

The other concern I would have is that Apple hasn’t really dealt with physical media since like the install disc for either lion or snow leopard (can’t remember the last one you could go to Best Buy and buy an install DVD) so I’d be concerned they’d abandon dedicated gaming hardware completely or even if they did have an AppleTV like console, they’d have no support for physical media.

dudewitbow, (edited )

They have the opposite mindset when it comes to how they handle hardware. Nintendo targets the cheapest demographic, willing to use old technology if it meant turning profit., Apple targets the complete oppisite by always buying out bleeding edge TSMC nodes. The only thing they share in common is both sell at profit on hardware sales.

stopthatgirl7,
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I would prefer no one bought Nintendo and they kept on doing what they do. They’ve been around for over 125 and you can still buy the hanafuda playing cards they started out making, so I’m pretty sure they know what they’re doing.

TORFdot0,

I absolutely agree with you, the gaming industry is much stronger with Nintendo’s presence. I was just stating that if Nintendo went up for sale, for whatever reason, I’d trust Apple to continue Nintendo’s design philosophy better than Microsoft, Sony, Google, or another big tech company.

g6d3np81,

Bought one many years ago, it's unexpectedly pricey for a 5cm paper card (48 cards). IIRC it's their excuse is "traditional look". The box is nice though.

dangblingus,

Why would you even type such a thing?

Stumblinbear, (edited )
@Stumblinbear@pawb.social avatar

I can’t wait for yearly Nintendo console releases with merely cosmetic changes at $1500 price points and breaking OS changes that prevent you using games you bought two years prior!

4am, do games w Microsoft Nintendo acquisition hopes revealed by leaked Xbox exec email

If Microsoft acquired Nintendo I will give up on all video games forever.

Like yeah Nintendo is a big bad capitalist company but, just, no. I can’t think of a better way to make gaming worse.

PM_ME_FEET_PICS,

Microsoft would make the company a lot more retail friendly.

End Nintendos fake scarcity selling tactics.

HarkMahlberg, (edited )
@HarkMahlberg@kbin.social avatar

Forget fake scarcity, the REAL scarcity of pre-acquisition Nintendo games and consoles would skyrocket. Microsoft is only consumer-friendly now because they're still in the phase of acquiring a critical mass of content and users. Once they have both, and everything is on Game Pass, they'll jack up the price as high as they want knowing you'd lose access to all your games if you don't pay.

sugar_in_your_tea,

Yup, there’s a reason I don’t consider getting GamePass or any other subscription service.

philluminati, (edited )

Nintendo has an incredible brand for easy child friendly and safe gaming experiences. It‘a products are about as retail friendly as you can possibly get. It’s trustworthy. You just buy them off the shelf and slot the cartridges into the unit.

Microsoft is famous for anti-consumer practices, poor UI design, expensive licensing, abandoning products like their Phone, Zune.

Sethayy,

And Nintendo loves to make trash consoles, making them insanely simple to emulate. Microsoft has decades of cyber security experience and would probably lock that right down.

(no of fence to Nintendo consoles, if anything its what made them interesting)

Dasnap, (edited ) do games w Microsoft Nintendo acquisition hopes revealed by leaked Xbox exec email
@Dasnap@lemmy.world avatar

Didn’t they want to do this 2 decades ago also? The offer was laughed at.

Looks like the lads took it personally.

Sunroc,

They misspelled Dwayne Johnson. Hah

Dragster39,

Duane Johnson

huginn, do games w Microsoft Nintendo acquisition hopes revealed by leaked Xbox exec email

The email describes a hostile takeover: buy enough stock to own the board then pressure the company to sell.

sturmblast, do games w Microsoft Nintendo acquisition hopes revealed by leaked Xbox exec email

if Microsoft buys Nintendo, Nintendo dies

Kyoyeou,

So, support from Microsoft on Smash tournaments?

Da_Boom,
@Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

Only on Microsoft sanctioned tournaments. Which I highly doubt that would happen.

LemmyTryThisOut, (edited )

They’re doing a fine job killing themselves already.

Edit: why are you booing me? I’m right.

notfromhere, do games w Microsoft Nintendo acquisition hopes revealed by leaked Xbox exec email

"I’ve had numerous conversations with the LT of Nintendo about tighter collaboration and feel like if any US company would have a chance with Nintendo we are probably in the best position. The unfortunate (or fortunate for Nintendo) situation is that Nintendo is sitting on a big pile of cash, they have a [board of directors] that until recently has not pushed for further increases in market growth or stock appreciation.

“I say “until recently” as our former MS BoD member ValueAct has been heavily acquiring shares of Nintendo and I’ve kept in touch with [ValueAct CEO] Mason Morfit as he’s been acquiring. It’s likely he will be pushing for more from Nintendo stock which could create opportunities for us.

Let the enshittification begin

oxideseven,

Publicly traded companies was just the worst damn idea ever… growth for growth’s sake is ruining everything.

Corkyskog,
@Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works avatar

Honestly to me the real shame is everyone’s retirement is tied up in Wallstreet, but no one is personally voting, that’s all done by investment managers. Even in the cases where people get their proxy votes, they mostly throw them away.

Retail investment is a quarter of the market, but only 32% of retail shares had their votes cast (vs 80% for the market as a whole), and on average only 12% of a firms retail accounts vote at all.

WheeGeetheCat,
@WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works avatar

If I own shares through a vanguard index, can I vote in each of those companies?

If so, how?

Someone could make a tool to make it quick and easy

Corkyskog,
@Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works avatar

Depends what fund, seems like they are trialing a new proxy vote system

ShittyRedditWasBetter, (edited ) do games w Microsoft Nintendo acquisition hopes revealed by leaked Xbox exec email

I would fucking love to get Nintendo shit off of the switch. And trash every single line of code that run Nintendos online service. Fuck, can Nintendo do even a single decent multiplayer experience?

midbus,

And give Microsoft even more of a monopoly?

ShittyRedditWasBetter, (edited )

🙄 screaming monopoly in gaming while stream is a thing is an absurd proposition. Game development has an absurdly low barrier to entry and is easily one of the most competitive markets on the planet. Citing a B tier player who is the most open of the console makers as a monopoly when players like Steam, Nintendo, and Sony exist is insane. Gamepass is a fantastic value, MS is a big reason cross play exists, and people lose their shit if a game isn’t available through steam.

Microsoft is one of the companies innovating TBH and I have no issues getting more games on streaming, console, and my PC for effectively $2.50/month once you convert gold. Easily the best value in gaming I’ve had in 30+ years of gaming.

Not having to buy a$300 outdated phone to enjoy the 5 things I enjoy on Nintendo would be a godsend.

4am,

“Microsoft is one of the companies innovating”

“This new Xbox is a windows PC that you can’t upgrade”

Yeah, great. Innovative. Some real Wozniak shit right there. Get your head out of your ass.

ShittyRedditWasBetter,

MS sells a capable device at a price point lower than any PC even close in performance and you bitch about upgrading 🤣

midbus,

Competition is what causes innovation, the only reason Microsoft does innovate is because of its competition with companies like Sony and Nintendo. You really think game pass would be here to stay without competition? That shits only a good deal because it has to be.

ShittyRedditWasBetter,

So working as intended? No real monopoly to be had?

AnonTwo,

What a fanboy, jeez lol

ShittyRedditWasBetter,

Yes. They are fantastic. Y’all just st lazy attacking me instead of dealing with your copium.

AnonTwo,

You aren't really giving anyone anything to work with. Plus you call everyone copium for...some reason, so we might as well call you out on fanboyism since you actually remember that Microsoft gold exists

ShittyRedditWasBetter,

Tell me you couldn’t be less informed lol. Microsoft will let you convert gold into game pass ultimate allowing you to rack up 3 years for like $70. It’s an absurd value and you just want to hand waive it away because it doesn’t support you🤣

AnonTwo, (edited )

Wow, you're doing advertising for them too huh?

But yeah no, I just don't buy any of it to begin with and let the points rot. No interest in getting locked into a system that they'll eventually try to raise the prices on once they muscle out their competitors.

I'm amazed you said these are the best deals you've seen in 30 years. Cause you certainly don't seem to be in my age group. Though maybe you're using the emote spamming to look younger than you are, who knows.

ShittyRedditWasBetter,

Locked into what? More than you are locked into steam? You just make crap up 🤣

AnonTwo, (edited )

Come back to me when I start having to pay a fee so that valve doesn't pull my games.

Also is 🤣 your copium when you need to make an argument look worse in your eyes? It really just looks like an awkward tic at this point.

ShittyRedditWasBetter,

I’ll happily rent most games for absurdly cheap and purchase the few I might play more than once. You can spend significantly more creating a dusty catalog. There is plenty of room for competition 😉

some_guy,
@some_guy@kbin.social avatar

Thinking that Microsoft is innovating and Steam (Valve is their name but whatever) is not is some real small 🍆 energy

AdolfSchmitler, (edited )

Bro did Nintendo fuck your wife or something?

ShittyRedditWasBetter,

I love it. I fucking love it. My opinion absolutely enrages the masses here. Me wanting Nintendo games on game pass is just making blood boil.

lowleveldata, do games w Microsoft Nintendo acquisition hopes revealed by leaked Xbox exec email

The site is unusable on mobile because of the aggressive ads

stopthatgirl7,
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Sorry, I have an ad blocker on my phone so I genuinely have no idea if there are ads on a site or how bad they are anymore on mobile. Try flipping to reader view to see it without ads?

Blizzard,

That’s on you for not using an adblocker.

lowleveldata,

Oh really? It’s not on the site for placing aggressive ads?

Blizzard,

As far as I’m concerned, all ads are aggressive. I don’t want to see any ads, period. Using an adblocker is a norm. It’s not only a matter of civilized online experience but also privacy and security (latest example). Of course you are not required to use one, but don’t go online complaining you see ads.

lowleveldata,

I’m not following. How am I supposed to let everyone knows that this site is shit without complaining?

Blizzard,

Everyone else should use adblockers too.

stopthatgirl7,
!deleted7120 avatar

If you don’t have an ad blocker installed though, seriously, I can’t recommend getting one enough. It’s legit like night and day how different it is. There are occasional inconveniences, but it is overall so, so much better for browsing QoL.

Aielman15, do games w Microsoft Nintendo acquisition hopes revealed by leaked Xbox exec email
@Aielman15@lemmy.world avatar

Microsoft will buy my teapottery if anti-trust regulations don’t keep them in check. And, in today’s climate, I don’t believe for a moment that anybody will make a reasonable attempt to do so.

Carighan, do games w Microsoft Nintendo acquisition hopes revealed by leaked Xbox exec email
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

MS wanted to buy Nintendo. The company that has so much money on hand that they are a noticable thing to the japanese banking sector?

Of all possible companies they were looking at buying? Heck, Sony might be more realistic by comparison, at least their gaming/console parts!

stopthatgirl7, (edited )
!deleted7120 avatar

And of all the hubris to want to rock up to a company that is over 125 years old and still going strong to tell them you would know better how to run their company than them.

ShittyRedditWasBetter,

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  • stopthatgirl7,
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    Microsoft is never going to love you back, dude.

    ShittyRedditWasBetter,

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  • stopthatgirl7,
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    Yeeeeah, I don’t know what you’re reading, but it certainly isn’t anything I wrote.

    You seem to be a troll, judging by this and other comments I’ve seen, along with your user name, so goodbye.

    ShittyRedditWasBetter,

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  • OctopusKurwa,

    Everyone should block this clown.

    ShittyRedditWasBetter,

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  • Albbi,

    Yup, anyone who responds like that gets a block.

    sanpo,

    What’s your point? Microsoft is easily several times bigger and is a “noticeable thing” in pretty much every country.

    darreninthenet,

    Market cap of Nintendo - 50 billion Market cap of Microsoft - 2.4 trillion

    Goronmon,

    Heck, Sony might be more realistic by comparison, at least their gaming/console parts!

    I mean, judging from the quotes, even MS considered it pretty unlikely back when the email is sent.

    pulaskiwasright,

    Sony is worth more than twice as much as Nintendo.

    dustyData,

    It’s really hard for humans to imagine things at that scale, but Microsoft is so many orders of magnitude larger than Nintendo that whatever Microsoft (and other mega tech companies like Apple and Google) does the entire global international finance system feels it.

    heliumlake, do games w Microsoft Nintendo acquisition hopes revealed by leaked Xbox exec email
    @heliumlake@lemmy.world avatar

    Bring back anti-trust regulations. Microsoft has been trying to acquire anything they can get their hands on, and really should be dismantled on principle.

    Haui,
    @Haui@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    Yes, indeed. This is so obvious and my frustration is immeasurable when hearing that people are too ignorant to understand why this is really bad.

    scrubbles,
    !deleted6348 avatar

    No it’s good! It’ll give them twice the power to make games and it’ll be better! They totally won’t just sit there with their monopoly, monopolies are good! Plus we still have Sony. Wait they want to buy Sony too? Even better!

    radiated,

    Yayay, all my games on Microsoft©️ GamePass™️, wait what do you mean they increased the prices? I’m sure one of the competitors…oh

    TheGrandNagus,

    I’ve been repeatedly downvoted on here and on Reddit for pointing out that Microsoft clearly just wants to capture the market and wield their disproportionate amount of power (their money, pretty much monopolistic OS position, ever-growing IP, and strength to push DirectX over other standards, etc) as a weapon.

    People really love Microsoft and won’t hear criticism of them.

    People look at gamepass and think ooooh that’s great, such a good price. I’m sure they won’t ever jack up prices once they capture the market!

    I’m sure it’s fine that MS has sole control over the graphics API pretty much all games use!

    It’s fine that MS is spending dozens to hundreds of billions on buying publishers, because Sony bought one too (that’s a 15th the size)! And it’s fine that they’re making that stuff exclusive to their platforms!

    It’s fine that Microsoft hurts open standards!

    Etc.

    I’m so damn tired of people carrying water for multi billion trillion dollar companies with immense history of anticompetitive and illegal behaviour.

    Haui,
    @Haui@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    I get your point. You‘re not the only one schooling peeps on this. It’s highly frustrating.

    Make sure to not repeat yourself a lot but make a blog, youtube channel, etc. Make your statements, put sources together to make it easy and logical and then just link to it.

    The big problem democracy has is efficiency. People who actually know stuff burn out because they don’t accept that they might be right but not efficient. Don’t be that guy.

    I‘m currently trying to build stuff up with mastodon but it’s still a wip.

    Good luck to you.

    stopthatgirl7,
    !deleted7120 avatar

    I was watching this video this morning, and he points out how these leaks show a pattern of Microsoft basically wanting to buy up all of gaming (I also liked how he called Microsoft’s whole way of think about buying Nintendo as a bit of American imperialism). Folks like their Game Pass and don’t like Nintendo not giving a damn about trends or multiplayer or whatever and just going along doing their own thing, and think it would be a great idea for Microsoft to own them, and…no. Just, no.

    lustyargonian,

    This was before ABK, in fact around Zenimax acquisition time. After the excruciating process of ABK’s acquisition which also brought us highly costly leak, I think they won’t dare to buy a big player for now and no regulator would let that happen given it would be a horizontal acquisition if I understand that correctly.

    echo64,

    The recent actiblizz situation has shown that Microsoft can do whatever they want, and no regulator will stop them. No regulator currently has teeth or a want to stop any aspect of big business, especially not tech. Thinking a regulator will say no to anything at this point is wishful at beat.

    lustyargonian,

    I mean it’s still stuck and CMA may still block it for all we know. Regulators definitely made them go through hoops for this one and it there’s a next one it’ll probably not go well after this.

    echo64,

    So I would like to be on board with this. But if you look at every single regulator who even double taked, it was all about cloud. They don’t care about consolidation of media and they have no intention of stopping it.

    lustyargonian,

    I think they cared about it, saw the numbers, and realised the case can’t be made because of the current way market is setup. CMA initially wasn’t convinced but with correct calculations it got resolved. FTC actually didn’t make a big point over cloud but that this could destroy PlayStation, which also wasn’t justifiable with data. EU held similar opinions but felt it also is pro competitive given the number of IPs Sony holds.

    But after ABK, I don’t think that case can be made anymore. With ABK the number of IPs and content becomes more competitive with PS and Nintendo, and they all kept saying this is a vertical merger, Nintendo or Sony wouldn’t, and thus wouldn’t be allowed.

    Kolanaki, do games w Starfield players are being haunted by asteroids
    !deleted6508 avatar

    I guess I’m gonna have to actually check. I always play entirely in 1st person so I wouldn’t have noticed unless it was always in my windshield or something.

    gamingdexter, do games w Starfield players are being haunted by asteroids
    @gamingdexter@lemmy.ml avatar

    I have had one since hour 12, I’ve changed ships multiple times, been all over, still following. It’s basically a space buddy now, I’m on hour 96

    Sanctus, do games w Starfield players are being haunted by asteroids
    @Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

    For all we know “space” is the same map for each planet and only a few assets get swapped depending on orbit. Maybe this was a cheeky way to make their ancient engine run all these new features without crashing.

    geosoco,

    Would not be surprised if this were true.

    all-knight-party,
    @all-knight-party@kbin.cafe avatar

    My best guess is that it's a debris effect from your ship taking damage, and it's supposed to fly away and expire, but somehow got stuck instead of disappearing, so now it's an "effect" on your character that doesn't know its supposed to have timed out already.

    Other Bethesda games, especially Skyrim, had bugs like this of status effects that would get stuck on your character longer than they were supposed to and you'd only realize hours later when your character has some weird blue fog following them

    Sanctus,
    @Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

    That has precedent and is a very interesting conjecture. I vote this explanation.

    Toribor,
    @Toribor@corndog.social avatar

    I’m having memories of Bethesda getting trains to work in Fallout 3 by making an NPC wear a train as a hat and then run really fast.

    Sanctus,
    @Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

    Its all smoke and mirrors, my friend. The cake is a lie.

    Coelacanth,
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    bionicjoey, do games w Scientists use Age of Empires 2 to investigate how ants wage war

    Nobody tell ants about the cheat codes

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