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MossyFeathers, do games w The specter of a GTA 6 delay haunts the games industry: 'Some companies are going to tank' if they guess wrong, says analyst
@MossyFeathers@pawb.social avatar

Wait, do people still get excited for GTA? I thought GTA V online killed a lot of goodwill for the series.

100,

yeah not really interested to buy it outside of a sale when its obvious they will go overdrive on online revenue in 6

biscuit,

Are you seriously questioning whether there is any hype for GTA?

GTAV Online may have hindered Rockstar’s goodwill for fans of the single player mode, but the Online mode rakes in cash.

RDR2 released in 2018 and is widely considered one of the best single player games with one of the best open worlds, strongly signalling to fans that Rockstar hasn’t lost its mojo.

GTA VI is, unquestionably, the most anticipated game of the year. To suggest otherwise is to be insanely disingenuous on your part.

MossyFeathers,
@MossyFeathers@pawb.social avatar

No, I’m honestly surprised. I’ve barely heard anything about GTA VI. Seriously. I don’t care about it, none of my friends have talked about it despite being the kinda game that they’d be into, and I’ve only seen one or two articles on it.

You sure it’s that highly anticipated? My observation is that people have gotten really sick and tired of AAA games, and this is a shift that’s occurred since RDR2 came out. Very few of the people I know still regularly play AAA games, and those who do almost never buy them on launch. I haven’t seen anywhere near the same amount of hype for GTA VI as I saw for GTA IV or GTA V.

You’re accusing me of being disingenuous? Maybe you’re the one who’s buying into the hype and overestimating public interest. Or perhaps the true answer is somewhere in the middle. Who knows. I was not intentionally downplaying your favorite series though.

biscuit,

The article you’re commenting on is literally about the game’s unsustainable hype and its impact on the industry.

It won Most Anticipated at TGA.

This is far from my favourite series, just enjoy shining a light on insane takes on Lemmy!

MossyFeathers,
@MossyFeathers@pawb.social avatar

shrug Idk if it’s really that insane. Tbh I’m not convinced the hype isn’t being manufactured. I have a cousin who’s a pretty bog standard, flavor-of-the-month gamer, and he’s said nothing about GTA VI.

Not saying you’re necessarily wrong, I guess, just that something seems off.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Grand Theft Auto V came out 12 years ago and has been in the top ten best sellers almost every single month since then. It’s not manufactured; you’re just very out of the loop. It’s one of the biggest money makers in all of video games. They spent an estimated $2B on GTA6 and will almost certainly make it back within days, not years.

FinishingDutch,
@FinishingDutch@lemmy.world avatar

They’ll make it back in HOURS, especially if it launches on PC same day. I went to the V night launch way back when. There were 500+ people in line at the store I went to. I didn’t sleep for three days after getting it. The hype train is only getting started and will ramp up to supersonic once we get a firm date. I’ll be buying a copy for every platform that I own. It’s going to be sheer fucking pandemonium.

That guy has NO CLUE whatsoever in terms of GTA hype and popularity.

TriflingToad,

just a reminder that you live in a different culture than the average video game player. I haven’t even completed GTA5 and aren’t in the circle of GTA players. Hell, the funnest part for me is driving in a really big circle while listening to music, but as out of touch as I am, I know it’s really REALLY hyped

warm,

The main writers have since left Rockstar. Dan Houser left in 2020. I feel GTA will lose it's charm with this next entry, I hope I am wrong, but something just feels off. Either way, won't be buying it until it's on a good sale.

biscuit,

It’s certainly going to be interesting how this game is received. Rockstar is one of those studios that burns all its goodwill with things like Online, the “Definitive” editions, RDR2 Online closing early, yet despite that it’s the largest studio with one of the largest, most successful franchises.

With the industry being so dire right now, where only huge behemoths like rockstar, or tiny efficient indie studios, can really compete, the outcome of GTA 6 might be quite consequential for the industry.

Kolanaki,
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All they ever did was riff on popular (crime) movies, and they were already scraping the bottom of the bin on that with 5. What popular movies in recent times has 6 even got to be inspired by?

Moobythegoldensock,

Really only Once Upon a Time in Hollywood comes to mind, but it’s not Scarface level popular.

dumbass,
@dumbass@leminal.space avatar

They lost Lazlow… There goes the greatest radio DJ to ever grace the gta airwaves.

When they added purchasable clubs into online and you could get Lazlow to come to your club, I made it my entire goal to make him happy, I spent so much cash keeping him dancing, always made me sad seeing him sitting there alone as the reality of it all hit him.

Lost_My_Mind,

It did. I’ve been a GTA player since the first one kn PS1.

I’ve bought every GTA game.

I have zero interest in GTA6.

SomGye,
@SomGye@dormi.zone avatar

Same here. GTAV, while I liked it, was a minor disappointment for me and I burned out on it. Plus after seeing how GTA Online went and how greedy they got with it, I’m just not interested in Take Two/Rockstar games anymore.

Pika,
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not to mention they decided to block Linux users back in October. I had very little interest in it in the last 6 or 7 years, but I decided when a friend played it I would try to join, just to be met with performance issues and getting kicked offline due to their anticheat. So stupid. It worked for years in Linux, then they just decide to boot it.

I lost what little interest period in anything GTA from that.

SplashJackson, do games w The specter of a GTA 6 delay haunts the games industry: 'Some companies are going to tank' if they guess wrong, says analyst

More like the sphincter of GTA 6 am I right?

DoucheBagMcSwag, do games w The specter of a GTA 6 delay haunts the games industry: 'Some companies are going to tank' if they guess wrong, says analyst

Take your console exclusive bullshit and shove it up your ass. I’ll play it when it’s on PC. And only on PC.

biscuit,

I just don’t have the patience to wait even more. I have a PS5, so why wouldn’t I play it on release??

Lost_My_Mind,

Why would you want to pay $70 for a pay to win game at all?

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

There’s a single player game people are pretty jazzed about, too.

biscuit,

Huh? For £70 I’m getting -

  • Huge open world
  • Very fun and emergent gameplay
  • Likely a world with multiple competing systems and subsystems to play with
  • Incredibly detailed world to get lost and immersed in
  • Given the RDR2 writing, likely a really well written story

But you’ve decided to latch onto one aspect of the previous game (the Online mode) to try to be as contrarian as possible?

I sure as heck will pay £70 for the above. And so will many millions of others. Sorry if that does a poo on your hate-train.

_cryptagion,

Well, to be fair, you don’t know you’re getting it for that. As far as I’ve seen, they haven’t announced the release price yet. And a lot of studios are hoping that Rockstar will take the fall for being the first $100 game so publishers can start charging used console prices for AAA games from then on.

Either way though, I won’t be paying anything for it.

massive_bereavement,

I don't see any horse balls physics in your list.

Utterly unplayable.

p03locke,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Huh? For £70 I’m getting

Based on what? You don’t actually know until it gets released. Sure, past history and reputation are certainly things to factor in, but we’ve seen plenty of major gaming companies shit the bed, despite their reputations.

Wait until it launches and the reviews come in.

biscuit,

I’m responding to a comment assuming it’ll be nothing but a “pay to win” game, despite any real evidence of that - I’m pointing out the expectations of GTA VI.

This sub is like Reddit on steroids. Just a bunch of contrarian kids trying to start arguments on the internet. Bizarre.

echodot,

You hope you’ll get those things. It’s Rockstar though so who really knows. I mean we do know we’re going to get a single player that’s been confirmed by Rockstar but everything else is just a guess. The map leak people seem to suggest that the map will include NASA and Disneyland which will be cool I guess, but we don’t know that that’s just a prediction and I don’t quite understand how they can predict that.

I just don’t trust Rockstar not to screw it up with GTA online 2, now with more irritating flying bikes

Screen_Shatter,

Dude thats crazy. I havent paod full price for a game in years, have a little patience and you can get a bunch more games for that much.

Isthereanydeal.com

Games are always on sale.

biscuit,

Good for you! For GTA VI, I definitely wanna play it as quickly as possible and £70 is a pretty reasonable price for that.

Screen_Shatter,

Why the rush?

ripcord,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

I’m with you on not paying full price in general, but they answered your main question before and you didnt acknowledge it.

altima_neo,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

Or $100 ,as some people are predicting

zipzoopaboop,

Because of backlogs and eventual price drops /sales

DoucheBagMcSwag,

Because I don’t want console level performance when I play it for the first time

Lightor,

Because I don’t want to play full price for a 1080 upscaled experience at 30fps. If it’s a good experience then it will be worth the wait and that much better when it runs smoother, looks better, and loads faster. Plus it will have most of the bugs worked by then.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

This will probably be the last time it ever happens. They’re trying to get people to double dip, and plenty will, but the console install base isn’t what it was when GTA V came out at the end of a generation. Plus we all know full well that the PC version will happen, whereas in yesteryear, we weren’t sure.

Kelly, (edited )

the console install base isn’t what it was when GTA V came out at the end of a generation.

I had a look to check the figures.

From the PlayStation perspective February 2025 estimates put the PS5 at 74.9m, while January 2013 estimates put the PS3 at 77m.

However Xbox is really letting their numbers lag with 28.3m Series consoles sold by September 2024 vs 77.2m 360 consoles by April 2013.

If we were just talking PlayStation I would say 97% is near enough to make no difference but if we compare both platforms together its only 67% and that is enough to influence strategy. A console only release in 2025 is unlikely to eclipse GTA5’s position as “fastest-selling entertainment product in history”.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

A game like GTA is likely to drive console sales, but not enough to make up that deficit.

SkyeStarfall,

But also don’t forget that the amount of gamers is larger today than in 2013. Gaming is much more mainstream, and so even 97% of the install base is still disappointing considering steam grew by, what, 3x or something in terms of average monthly users?

Another source I found is that the amount of total gamers grew by roughly 50% from 2013 to 2025. But yeah, I just did a quick skin numbers are not precise

But still, 97% is disappointing considering the general demographic was supposed to grow. And then, in reality, it’s just 67% too

DogWater,

Yeah that’s a good point.

If gaming grew and the total userbase is the same now, then it’s smaller by percentage.

That must been that PC is just exploding in popularity over the time period in question.

technomad,

I’ll go a step further and say only when it’s been vetted and discounted on PC.

TheFriar,

K

CosmoNova,

And only on PC

That’s going to be a long wait my friend.

tordenflesk,

It’s been the same for… ~25 years, since at least GTA3.

CosmoNova,

You can still play them on both console and PC and not only PC.

ms_lane,

I’d rather wait than buy a console for a single game that will barely hit 720p/30.

ripcord,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

I think they mean it will never be PC only, so it’d be an infinite wait. Or maybe some future release version will be console only.

Also, “720p/30” lol

Sunsofold,
boughtmysoul,

K. You do that.

Sektor, do games w The specter of a GTA 6 delay haunts the games industry: 'Some companies are going to tank' if they guess wrong, says analyst

I’ll wait until it gets free on Epic and proceed not playing it, since i have better things to do with my life.

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Please crosspost to !citybuilders

Aurenkin,

Had no idea that this community existed, thanks!

Marighost, do games w This city builder has the best brick-by-brick building system around—here's our review
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I had wishlisted this one a few weeks ago, happy to see it’s out of early access.

Tolstoy, do games w This city builder has the best brick-by-brick building system around—here's our review
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Cataclismo - 92% Overall on Steam

embed_me, do games w Generative AI Game about People Using AI to Solve Crime that Somehow Isn't a Cautionary Tale
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The plot reminds me of that futurama episode where Fry becomes a cop and the cops use a robot that can simulate the future to stop a crime before it’s happened.

It was a really funny episode, if they took it as inspiration I think it will be a killer plot for a game. I mean even Isaac Asimov’s short stories hinged on AI being unpredictable by humans. (Although, in his stories some of the AI actually worked well) But I just know that that’s not what they have in mind here and I have no hope of someone using AI properly, in its natural domain (ie Sci-fi)

SpicyColdFartChamber,

That was a parody of minority report. You should check it out if you haven’t.

Also if you are into anime, you should check out psychopass which covers a similar theme.

DarkFuture, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now
@DarkFuture@lemmy.world avatar

Built a new killer rig last summer. Have spent 90% of my time with it playing HL1 mods.

MufinMcFlufin,

Recently upgraded to a 7800x3D, 64GB DDR5, and a 4070… which I’ve been using to get back into modded Minecraft recently.

TinyShonk,

Tbf, the larger modpacks can be pretty resource intensive.

MisterOwl,
@MisterOwl@lemmy.world avatar

Same machine… The framerates I’m getting in Rimworld are off the charts.

quack, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now

Turns out that people like playing games that respect their time and aren’t a glorified second job. Who knew.

golli,

Tell that to everyone playing games like path of exile (which i admittedly have also played too much of in the past).

itslilith,
@itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

PoE, Factorio, etc

I seem to like games that require spreadsheets

Nalivai,

The games I play do respect my time but boy are they a second job. From Rimworld to Satisfactory, from Space Engineers to modded Minecraft… My job is a second job.

Mic_Check_One_Two, (edited )

that respect their time

I know you’re not talking about old school RPGs. The older games tended to pad playtime by having insane difficulty levels or by requiring grinds. Hell, my favorite JRPG (edit: Legend of Legaia) is specifically more grindy in America, because the devs decided to slash the experience and gold drop rates by like 50% for the American release, and make all of the enemies hit much harder. (Interestingly, the original enemy stats are still present in the game code, and then the game runs some “x1.25” math when the battle starts, to bump all of their stats up to the values that actually get used in combat.) So you need to be a higher level to be able to survive, and you need to grind twice as long to reach those higher levels and to be able to buy better gear. I like it despite the grind, not because of it; In most of my play throughs, I end up using cheats to avoid the grind.

and aren’t a glorified second job

I mean, games like Ultima Online, RuneScape, Diablo, and EverQuest have existed since the 90’s. Hell, RuneScape used to be extremely approachable for young players because it didn’t require a good computer or any installs; It just ran directly in your internet browser.

The bigger reason many adults feel this way is not because games have gotten longer or harder. Adults simply have less time to play. They don’t want to spend a bunch of time researching optimal builds or grinding rank in multiplayer matches. Instead, they want to fall back to the games that they already know how to play. They’re willing to ignore the fact that their favorite single player game requires 10-20 hours of grinding, because it doesn’t feel like work to them. Or if it does, they can just use cheats to get around it. They don’t need to research how to get a specific item, or how to approach a specific boss fight, because they have already done it a dozen times.

PraiseTheSoup,

Why would you write this and then not say what your favorite jrpg that is specifically more grindy in America is? Do you write clickbait headlines for a living?

Mic_Check_One_Two,

Hah, just edited the comment for you.

umbraroze, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now

Much of my PC gaming, back in the day, was “oh this looks like a good game. Runs like dogshit on my PC though. Maybe I’ll wait until I get a better PC.” [wait 10 years] “My ADHD has gone worse, I can’t play all this stuff”

Zerberr, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now

Really looking forward to Kitten Space Agency though

whotookkarl, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now
@whotookkarl@lemmy.world avatar

Older games = more than 2 years old? Then the same goes for readers, movie and TV watchers, etc media consumption most isn’t from the current or previous years

F_OFF_Reddit, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now

Either oldish titles or Indies, mainstream game devs are pure malaria

A_Random_Idiot, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now

I’m playing a new old game, because i’m playing the Suikoden Remaster. There for I have beaten the system by simultaniously playing both an 20+ year old game and a brand new game thats a few weeks old.

DontMakeMoreBabies,

I got a steam deck on the way and I’m so stoked to use it for Suikoden. I hope they remaster number three!

Mic_Check_One_Two,

The Steam Deck is actually wonderful for retro games. EmuDeck makes setting up emulators a breeze, and the roms can easily be found online legitimately ripped from your own copies of the game and loaded onto a MicroSD card.

A_Random_Idiot,

Suikoden 3 needs far, far more than just a remaster.

It needs a full blown remake, both of the story, and the game, to get rid of that trinity sight mechanic. cause the constant shifting perspectives absolutely kept me out of the game, cause every time I start to get invested boom rip me out of it and make me control someone else for a long period. I understand what they were trying to do, but it was one of the most fundamentally bad game design choices i’ve ever seen.

Suikoden 4 has a similar problem. They would need to remake that, too… and create a ton of new story and side content… because S4 is like a 7 hour game, that only takes 40 hours to play because of the absolutely ludicrously insane encounter rate… which is very blatantly used to pad game length time.

Suikoden 5, Hell… I dont even need a remaster. Just wrap the PS2 version in an emulator and release it on PC and I’ll be happy as can be.

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