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buzz86us, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now

Because crypto miners ruined gaming top end GPUs used to be $300 Max, now were looking in the thousands to have the best GPU for like 6 months, and you can’t buy a used one because it could be a clapped out card used in a crypto miner

pdqcp, (edited )

Bitcoin switched to industrial ASICs a long time ago, and Ethereum has completely moved away from proof-of-work mining in 2022, see: ethereum.org/en/roadmap/merge/

The Merge was executed on September 15, 2022. This completed Ethereum’s transition to proof-of-stake consensus, officially deprecating proof-of-work and reducing energy consumption by ~99.95%.

GPU mining is pretty much completely dead because after Ethereum switched the yields on everything else tanked, no one mines with GPUs anymore, at least not for any major blockchain. GPUs are mainly being used with AI now

buddascrayon,

That doesn’t mean that their effect on the GPU market will up and vanish overnight. Market correction doesn’t usually go down as fast as it goes up.

Edit: add to that the tariff situation and the standoff with China and Taiwan (where all the processors for gpus are made), and you have a situation where things are just going to get more expensive no matter what.

frezik,

It’s AI at this point. Nvidia considers the gamer division to be vestigial. They were a $700B market cap company that was primarily known for gaming GPUs. They are now quadruple that with AI, and that’s even with some recent hits to their stock price.

partial_accumen,

The Merge was executed on September 15, 2022. This completed Ethereum’s transition to proof-of-stake consensus, officially deprecating proof-of-work and reducing energy consumption by ~99.95%.

I don’t follow crypto trends so I hadn’t heard about this either.

I had to look up proof-of-stake, and for Ethereum apparently is required to stake 32 coins to operate a node. Another google search shows me a single Ethereum coin is just north of $2k USD. So someone mining Etherium today needs to have more than $64k if Etherium to even run a node now?!

Bristingr,

It was 4k per coin. Source: me as I cry with my 2 ETH. 😭

Croquette,

Pay to play baby! Let’s reinvent the banking system by doing the same exact shit.

pdqcp,

Not really to be honest, the power is in the decentralization, permissionless and opensource nature of the system. You can’t get that out of the traditional system

Of course not all networks are the same and there are always shit ones out there that compromise on those tenets, but if you do your due dilligence, you will see there is value in some of them

pdqcp,

No, not really, you can start staking with as many as you want, see pooled staking: ethereum.org/en/staking/pools/

Staking pools are a collaborative approach to allow many with smaller amounts of ETH to obtain the 32 ETH required to activate a set of validator keys

You earn rewards proportional to the amount you stake

You only need 32 ETH to stake if you want to solo stake / home stake and you don’t pool resources with anyone else, see ethereum.org/en/staking/solo/

GoodEye8,

I don’t think it’s even necessarily that the GPU pricing has ballooned. I think the main reason is that that every new game has to compete with pretty much every other game ever made. For example I enjoyed Death Stranding and I am interested in Death Stranding 2, but I’m probably not getting in on launch because there’s a big chance I’ll probably start playing Stardew Valley for the n’th time, because I feel like that’s what I want to play. I’ll probably play DS2 when I get the Kojima itch.

Croquette,

IMO, GPU prices have an impact. Modern gaming has a bad habit of not optimizing games relying on people getting newer GPUs for performance.

Mix that with the pre-order/early access monetization, and we are to a point where games have made their money before release, and beans counters don’t want to put money in QA because there is no quantifiable ROI (there is a ROI, but it is hard to quantify), which is a no-no in their world.

Indie games have a tendancy to be less GPU demanding, and thus, usually have a better performance experience

ipkpjersi,

Yep, that’s the thing. Games have to be bigger, better, more fun than ever before, and yet the publishers and management want it to be done quicker and quicker than ever before, so it’s a pretty difficult thing. That, combined with bad working conditions and the public shitting on you because “game devs are shitty/greedy/etc” with developers being used coloquially to absorb all the blame that should be reserved for management, and things are in a pretty tough spot.

Though, at the same time, it’s a better time now than ever before to actually be a gamer, because not only can you play any half-decent new games, but you can also play the entire library of older games, retro games, etc.

PanArab, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now
@PanArab@lemm.ee avatar

My most played game in my Steam library is Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus which came out in 2013. The newest game in my library is Atelier Sophie DX a rerelease of a 2015 game.

mohab, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now

True in my case. All of my favorites either were released before 2020 or originally released before 2020 and I'm playing the re-release.

Only new IP I got excited about after 2020 was Project G.G. and I strongly doubt it'll ever see the light at this point.

Threeme2189, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now

Heroes 3 HoTA is still excellent and being actively developed.

Rakonat, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now

Why should I dump 60usd plus into a multiplayer focused game I’ll maybe get to play 4 hours a week during prime times that is going to shrivel up and die in 2 years time when the next big thing comes out?

Or I can play all these games enjoy, have passionate modding communities adding to the game for free on top of me picking the entire thing up for maybe 20usd on sale if not less.

DarkMetatron, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now

Me, reading the topic while playing Morrowind: “Yeah, that seems correct!”

ShankShill,
HK65,

That’s just the starting grid of the annual Cliff Racer GP

Hadriscus,

I can hear this picture

DarkMetatron,

Makes me feel like home 🥰

Goldholz, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now

I see tf2, i click

RadimentriX, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now
@RadimentriX@troet.cafe avatar

@tonytins 6 years is old now? :< couldnt care less about the competitive/pvp stuff but im playing x4 foundations most of the time currently and some genres dont get that many new entries anyway, like open world action games like gta5. Thats from 2013 and most other titles like mafia 3 or just cause 4 arent much newer either

tonytins,
@tonytins@pawb.social avatar

I hear ya’. Technology (including games) progressed so rapidly that I feel older than I honestly should.

timmy_dean_sausage,

I recently replayed a game from 2004 that I remember playing in 2004… (KOTOR 2)

UltraGiGaGigantic, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now
@UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml avatar

I can wait till a game is $5. I’ve got so many to enjoy already.

Darktide, you’re worth $5. Admit it. Release a dlc pack with new maps gamemodes characters classes whatever if you want more money. But the base game is worth $5.

I wanna shoot the heavy bolter at shit. The sounds for the gun sound so satisfyingly chunky. Slap that hunk of metal in the emperor’s name. Hell yeah

See you in 2-3 years

Bearlydave,

I usually wait until the triple A games at under $30. I have a backlog of games I still have yet to touch, so I don’t feel the need to immediately buy games. At $30, even if I only play it for a few hours, it is a decent value per hour.

WhatSay, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now

& Indie games

PigStyle, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now

Factorio considered older?

Baggie,

Probably? I have memories from over a decade back so

DrDickHandler,

DLC is new…

UltraGiGaGigantic,
@UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml avatar

So much more room to grow in SPAAAAAAAAAAACE

Nibodhika,

I mean, Factorio’s early access is the middle point between now and when God of War 2 was released. Meaning that when Factorio was on early access God of War 2 was as old then as Factorio is now.

frezik,

The article puts the cutoff for “old” as being 6 years or more. Officially, Factorio was released in 2020, but we all know that any other studio would have considered it done years before that.

Naz, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now

Helldivers 2 came out in 2024

By definition, that’s last year, so it’s an old game.

Bwuh?

MysticKetchup, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now
@MysticKetchup@lemmy.world avatar

People are reading the headline and assuming they’re talking about older single-purchase games, but the article is actually referring to mostly MTX-driven games that get continuous updates.

And the data further shows, in Newzoo’s own words, that these 908 million “PC players are heavily skewed towards older, live service games.”

Remember that even things like Rocket League are about a decade old at this point, and games like LoL, Dota 2 and CS:GO are even older

suite403, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now

Because we have a giant backlog of steam sales.

LostWanderer, do games w Generative AI Game about People Using AI to Solve Crime that Somehow Isn't a Cautionary Tale

ROFL Irony is lost on some, so this is not at all surprising.

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