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rafoix, do games w What are your favorite games from a worldbuilding standpoint?

Fromsoft and Larian are great at this.

BioWare 20 years ago was guaranteed. We might never get another BioWare game I would purchase.

FishFace,

“Zanzibart, forgive me”.

Nah, Fromsoft has great vibes. But the worldbuilding and story is all deliberately obscured because of Miyazaki’s love of sci-fi he couldn’t properly read. That makes it a trove for obsessives but it can’t really be called good.

rafoix,

It’s definitely good and it is done in a way that can only be done in video games. Too many video games depend on passive exposition instead of finding actual lore in the world.

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

So your reasoning for saying it isnt good is because you actually have to work to see it instead of it being spoonfed to you? Is that right?

FishFace,

Do you consider it being “spoonfed” to you when you read a book and the plot and everything is just written down?

Do you consider it positive that you have to “work for it” if every fifth word is written in Chinese and you have to translate them?

Making it hard to understand does not make it good. Making it easy does not make it bad. Is there an aspect of it you like that isn’t just that it’s hard to understand? Because that’s all you mentioned.

IronBird,

Do you consider it being “spoonfed” to you when you read a book and the plot and everything is just written down?

uh…no? the whole point of books is to read them

the whole point of games is to play them, if you want all the plot in your games to be reading…maybe grab a book instead?

FishFace,

Right, so if making the plot and lore obvious in a book is fine, it’s also fine in a game. Using pejoratives like “spoonfeeding” criticises this without giving any reason.

From games are particularly bad because most of the lore is on item descriptions that are often themselves locked behind random drops and easily missed questlines. This is not good world building, this is purposefully obscure world building. People mistake “hard to put together” for quality, but it’s the opposite - making this stuff harder to get makes it worse, because players are less likely to get it! If you feel too communicate the lore to most players, that’s not good!

dukemirage, (edited )

I hope you don’t mean Baldur‘s Gate when you say Larian and BioWare. edit: downvotes seem to forget that the Forgotten Realms worldbuilding wasn’t done by the licensed games.

fartographer, do gaming w Imagine being this cool

Of course she won; she had a literal second set of hands to help her. It’s the same reason that Goro is the best character in MK. I obviously never win when I play as Goro, but that’s because everyone else is cheaters.
/s

al_Kaholic,

She was just feeding the baby it wasn’t cheating!

fartographer,

To what???

al_Kaholic,

babality! Finish him!

Cevilia, do gaming w The oldest Minecraft server, MinecraftOnline, is being shut down by Microsoft

Fuck MinecraftOnline for making fucking Microsoft look like the good guys here.

warm, do games w Why would I buy this?

I wish Steam would put the 3rd-party requirements nice and obvious above the buy button. Along with "uses AI content", "in-app purchases" and "always online requirement" banners too. And more too, every game should be shamed before users get to the buy button.

CaptainBasculin, do games w Are there any good 3D Nintendo FAN made games?

Cobblemon. It’s a pokemon mod for Minecraft Java.

sonalder,

I don’t remember the name but I remember seen some info about a Emerald remake as a Cobblemon server.

Zahille7, do games w Is there any way of trying Battlefield 6 without buying it or paying £17 for a 1 month EA Play Pro subscription?

Nope.

Best advice would be to forget it exists. There are actually thousands of other games out there that are almost exactly like Battlefield, I doubt the Next New Thing™ will be worth giving up a little bit of sanity over.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Could you name a few that are almost exactly like Battlefield, came out in the last decade, and let me host my own servers?

Ancalagon,

Squad and Arma.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

We have very different definitions of “almost exactly like Battlefield”.

Ancalagon,

That’s fair. Battlefield is the most basic of all three. COD being even more basic with the elimination small maps. They all have a class system, military assets, and the same basic concept of teams. The difference is in the realism/depth of how far you want to go. Now, what OP is asking for is not practical from a business standpoint. You need deviation to separate your product. So there is going to be that deviation to the point of it being worthwhile to compete with the battlefield. But never to be what OP is asking for. It isn’t smart business.

TheRealKuni, do games w Thank you to the people providing a counterweight over on the Relooted forums

Oh boy, the Steam community is cringeworthy. Like, TPUSA level.

“yOu LiBeRaLs HaVe SpEnT yEaRs SaYiNg DiVeRsItY iS iMpOrTaNt BuT tHiS gAmE oNlY hAs AfRiCaN pRoTaGoNiStS?”

cryptiod137,

I remember when bait used to be good.

Honestly though, the game could easily have protags from… Actually like fucking everywhere, ands that’s just the British museum

brilliantmaps.com/british-museums-collection/

urata, do gaming w Games designed to be one thing, but are commonly played other than intended?

Sometimes I make a save just before some part of a game that I think is really fun. When I go back to play the game instead of like starting a new game or loading my save that is the furthest way through I just run through the part I really like.

There are a ton of games I consider my favorites that I have never played all the way through. I don’t really care that much about completing a game and I generally think the beginning is more fun than the later stages of many games.

Speaking of Project Zomboid I often, but not always, play that game with the infection turned off or set to bites only at least because I don’t want my run to end just because I made a tiny mistake or something really janky happens with the user interface that gets me scratched. I also play Project Zomboid with a game controller which isn’t how the game was originally designed but luckily someone on the team decided it was worth coding and I love them for it.

Sometimes I play Rust on a private server by myself with no other players just messing around and doing the PvE content.

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

Speaking of Project Zomboid I often, but not always, play that game with the infection turned off or set to bites only at least because I don’t want my run to end just because I made a tiny mistake or something really janky happens with the user interface that gets me scratched.

I set the infection to take like a month to kill you, and have a mod that lets you research and develop a cure. It makes it so that being bitten isn’t an automatic end run, it just changes my priorities to finding everything I need to stay alive.

I also play Project Zomboid with a game controller which isn’t how the game was originally designed but luckily someone on the team decided it was worth coding and I love them for it.

Oof. I actually came back to it because I saw they added controller support and wanted to try it because I much prefer using a controller these days for comfort reasons. I gotta say, I really hope the new chsnges they are planning make it better because right now the controls for controller kinda blow. Controlling the game is purposefully clunky as is with a mouse and keyboard; the controller exacerbates it. 😞

urata,

Yeah it’s tough using a controller sometimes. The frequent use of dpad directions or the select button while also wanting to hold the sticks both in whatever directions gets me holding my controller in some interesting ways. Having a controller you’re very comfortable with helps. The controls of like TVs and radios is super terrible also, but I’ve gotten somewhat used to it.

RightHandOfIkaros, do games w Is it me or does it seem like review bombing on Steam has become so much worse recently?

Sometimes, the only way for players to get the developer’s attention is by doing something drastic like that. Not always, but many times. Because developers and publishers think Steam Review Scores are important for game sales (and I mean, they are, but maybe not as much as they seem to think).

Sometimes this comes from players in a different language complaining about bad translation or something.

Review Bombing, the term, is almost used to discredit when people have negative sentiment for something, and does nothing to explain why players may be doing it. Sometimes it is warranted, sometimes it isn’t. But most people are going to read that term and think “Ah, its just a bunch of whiney children,” only to later feel frustrated at the things those negative reviews were talking about.

Brylant, do games w I finally decided to go full piracy against big companies

Why bother with ethics or morality? I’ve been pirating what I can half of my life now, just because I’m a poor and stingy bastard. Let people with finished mortgages and nice cars pay those companies.

CodenameDarlen,

Yes, that’s true, poor people just want to have some fun, but society try to make it wrong, you need to follow all the guidelines of morality. But nobody talk about rich people destroying the world, spending on luxuries, exploring workers, and doing this kind of crap with the gaming industry.

eRac, do games w Once again, looking for PS2 game suggestions!

Ratchet & Clank and Going Commando are great.

PerfectDark,
@PerfectDark@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve been playing Ratchet & Clank (something-or-other-about-booty) via RPCS3 on my Steam Deck, and I’ve been loving that! Totally forgot R&C got their start on PS2. Thanks!

twinklefruit,

Don’t sleep on the first game.

It’s something special.

MudMan, do games w I finally decided to go full piracy against big companies

The hell does "piracy against big companies" even mean?

Man, pirate what you can't afford if you must, just... you know, be honest about it. I'm always annoyed by people doing the thing they wanted to do anyway and presenting it as activism. That's not how that works.

For the record, while I think there's plenty to be critical about in modern gaming, "DLC", "game has a launcher" and "game is ported from other platforms" are not that. "A game I played on the PS3 was too expensive when I wanted to rebuy it" is somebody giving you bad value up front, not some ideological stance you're taking.

For the record, I also didn't buy it because I also didn't think their launch price was right. In fairness, it has since been on sale for 30 bucks multiple times, which is a lot more reasonable.

And again, I'm not saying don't pirate it. Do what you want. Just don't be weird about it.

mnemonicmonkeys,

The hell does “piracy against big companies” even mean?

Paying for indies while pirating AAA isn’t that hard of a concept to wrap your head around. Sounds more like a “you” problem

MudMan,

It's a "me" problem in that "I" think the indies vs AAA lines are increasingly inconsistent and nonsensical. "I" also find the concept of "pirating against" to be extremely disingenuous, which is why there is a whole post explaining that after the line you quoted.

Evil_Incarnate, do games w More Online CO-OP Games should have option to pause

So everyone has to wait while you go to the toilet?

Mika,

Why not? I co-op with my wife mostly, sitting in the same room.

MBech,

In a coop game? They’re going to wait nomatter what, if not, it’s not really a coop game, if coop isn’t needed.

Goodeye8,

There are levels to coop. Of course in something like Chained together you have to wait because your character is literally chained to the other character. But I think most people would agree that Valheim is designed with coop in mind. If someone goes to the toilet others can still collect wood, expand the base etc. The more open-ended the game is the less it becomes a requirement to stop the game for everyone else.

That is of course if you’re not some kind of a coop purist. If you are then there’s no room for nuance here and this discussion is irrelevant.

Gremour,

If I recall correctly, Starcraft 2 has a pause in online match. Other players get pause screen and can unpause the game. It all comes down to both(all) players agree on pause, and can be useful if correctly implemented.

wreckedcarzz,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

Payday 3, if all players enter the pause menu, the game actually pauses. Anyone can exit the menu at any time, and re-enter it - which again pauses the game, if all other players remain in the pause menu.

It’s nice because it lets players loot and plan while others are away, but if they too need to afk, the team isn’t screwed by a guard coming around a corner with nobody to react.

Nima,
@Nima@leminal.space avatar

people gotta poop sometimes, man. I know you really want to sell those cabbages but give 'em five minutes or so.

also it’s nice if someone has kids and needs to go afk.

twinklefruit,

Yes, exactly.

Paradachshund, do gaming w Always feels good seeing those kids get humbled

No one is ever ready to accept that perfect matchmaking would mean every player has a 50% win rate. 😅

FlowerFan,

which is why I play singleplayer

100% winrate guaranteed, no need for frustration (this does not apply to dark souls or souls-likes lol)

dejected_warp_core, do gaming w What game changed your life?

Braid.

The game itself is brilliant. The story and message within is heartfelt, heartbreaking, and un-apologetically autobiographical. Up until that point, I knew gaming was a good storytelling medium, but not for something this moving.

yermaw,

Theres one little paragraph from braid that really stuck with me.

Tap for spoilerIf we’ve learned from a mistake and become better for it, shouldn’t we be rewarded for the learning, rather than punished for the mistake?

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