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CycloneWolf, do gaming w What type of game you want to see that doesn't fully exist yet?

Guild Wars 2’s World vs World mode, but with an established IP and without the bolted-on single player content. And increase the team sizes while you’re at it. Sell cosmetic DLC to pay the bills if you must.

WvW was a blast until they shelved it for a year to focus on poorly-written single player DLC, and lost half of the community in the process. I tried going back a few years ago but it’s a grindfest now.

Dunstabzugshaubitze,

Return of reckoning is a fan run continuation of the warhammer mmo, that might be something you enjoy.

MarioSpeedWagon, do gaming w What type of game you want to see that doesn't fully exist yet?

Modern AAA matrix game

robdor, do gaming w What type of game you want to see that doesn't fully exist yet?

Star citizen

Ultimatenab,

Hopefully our grandkids will play a game like that, or be it in real life by the time it is complete… I’m saying that as someone who backed in 2013 and have about 2k worth of ships.

interolivary,
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This but unironically. A game like SC would absolutely be My Thing™, although maybe without the MMO part (so I guess Squadron whatever-it-was from the SC team?) – generally people are twats and I want nothing to do with them.

dom, do gaming w What type of game you want to see that doesn't fully exist yet?

A few things come up for me.

An rpg based on wheel or time or storm light archives

Open world top down skyrim-like with combat more akin to ghost of tsushima than traditional 2d zeldas. (As in focus on bad guys, dodge roll, fluid combat)

Modern single player carpg, similar to original forza horizon

GrayBackgroundMusic,

Storm light could work, but I think it’s more about the politics than the power sets. Idk maybe it’s gets more fantastic. I’m only on book 2.

Mist born would also be a great universe and the powers are really adaptable into a game, IMO.

dom,

There are definitely adventures. But even the concept of the powers aligns well to a game. Wouldn’t need to follow thr narrative, but I dont think it would be bad if it did. Would have some cool cut scenes and missions

LallyLuckFarm, do gaming w What type of game you want to see that doesn't fully exist yet?

Cities: Skylines but ecosystem repair. Plant forests, regrade areas of mountains to mitigate landslide potential, reintroduce species and study their functional relationships with each other… Game progression comes in the form of additional research grants or new area assignments which present new challenges and unlock a new set of tools/procedures, but the successes from previous sites allow for migration of the reintroduced species into the new site.

canis_majoris,
@canis_majoris@lemmy.ca avatar

Terra Nil is like 80% of this.

teawrecks,

I’ve only watched gameplay of Terra Nil, but it seems like it’s just an environmentalism themed puzzle game. You could replace all the titles with colors, and all the buildings and what they do with arbitrary rules, and it seems like it wouldn’t look anything like an ecosystem sim. It would be like taking the game Lights Out, changing dark spots to “growth”, light spots to “wastelands” and saying the goal is to balance out the ecosystem.

I didn’t see the late game though, so maybe I didn’t see where it shines.

teawrecks,

I was hoping this was the direction Dyson Sphere Program would go. I think it would be an interesting twist on the factory management genre if nature was working against you; not in a Factorio “aliens will attack you if they see your pollution” way, but a “you’re producing pollution, this is creating more in-climate weather that is damaging your factories and changing the landscape dynamically” sort of way. I think this was the natural next step given that the game is already about climbing the Kardashev scale, producing more energy so that you can construct the means to produce exponentially more energy. Seemed like the natural next step would be exploring the balancing act that has to happen to achieve that energy production without also creating systemic issues for yourself that make it infeasible.

Instead their latest patch adds aliens that attack you 😕.

t3rmit3, do gaming w What type of game you want to see that doesn't fully exist yet?

Eve Offline, with all other players being NPCs.

I have a mental hangup with the very real dread of when hosted multiplayer games die, that all the time and effort I have spent, and all the things I’ve built, will just suddenly disappear. It’s why I run a private G17 Mabinogi server on my pc, rather than playing online.

HATEFISH,

Saw this trailer the other day that might interest you, it’s an offline type mmo where all the other players are simulated. Erenshor Offline MMO Trailer

violetraven,
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This what got me into the original .hack on PS2.

rgb3x3, do gaming w What type of game you want to see that doesn't fully exist yet?

I’ve always thought it was weird that there hasn’t been a Hunger Games video game. Not to play out the teen movie storyline, but as the Battle Royale part.

Imagine creating a character using typical RPG elements (strength, endurance, speed, crafting, survival, etc.) with a limited number of points, the same number of points as everyone else. Then you’re placed inside different large arenas that have environmental hazards for a Battle Royale survival that could last up to 30 minutes per game if you’re good enough to make it to the end.

You have to survive against random encounters just like the gamemasters use in the books, dangerous animals, and you can get sponsorship drops like the COD kill streak rewards (healing items, tools, weapons). You could even make it through by not killing anyone if you’re good enough at surviving the environment, but you’d better hope you don’t end up in a fight.

I just think a game like that would be sick.

Squids,

It’s not a dedicated game and idk if servers even run these anymore, but the original popular “battle royal” was minecraft hunger games servers and they did kinda run like that - no stats obviously, but throwing you empty into a bounded world where you’d have to survive and craft and kill monsters and each other. I think some of them might’ve even had like your sponsor drops where you’d get potions or enchanted stuff

FlintFox, do gaming w What type of game you want to see that doesn't fully exist yet?

A turn-based, tactical, squad-centered action title where a collective of vicious aliens invade the planet and you as the leader of a group of brave if vulnerable heroes have to save the world from the strange new threat. Except this time the world the aliens have picked to invade is a fantasy realm.

Guiding mages, warriors and rogues against the threat from outer space, combining XCOMesque battles with traditional fantasy game combat and levelling mechanics. Advance through the map taking regions back in control rather than zigzagging around the globe. Both the dwarven and elven capitals are under attack, which one do you go to rescue first and gain the help a new race to pick your pool of heroes from? Manage your kingdom and choose which deities you build a temple for, determining whether you unlock paladins or warlocks as a sub-class. Beat the aliens to reach the dragon before its captured and converted to their side. And as you encounter more armoured enemies, let your blacksmiths experiment with slapping together scavenged items from the battlefield to form high -tier magitech armour of your own.

It’s a fever dream combination of effectively XCOM and Majesty that’s been in my head for years because I love quirky mashups like this. Not necessarily anything new under the sun but I feel like with some work put into it, you could really forge something unique by embracing the combination of styles and genre conventions.

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

That sounds amazing honestly.

w00, do gaming w What type of game you want to see that doesn't fully exist yet?

Pacific Drive with the graphics from Sonst of the Forest

dillekant, do gaming w What type of game you want to see that doesn't fully exist yet?

Any game where the AI cores of modern GPUs are used for actual AI and not graphics.

potterman28wxcv,

It’s not as simple as that. Those cores are specialised in handling graphics. Game devs have 0 control over it

dillekant,

The AI cores? I’m pretty sure they’re for AI right?

potterman28wxcv,

They are for providing special hardware for Neural Network inference (most likely convolutional). Meaning they provide a bunch of matrix multiplication capabilities and other operations that are required for executing a neural network.

Look at this page for more info : www.nvidia.com/en-us/data-center/tensor-cores/

They can be leveraged for generative AI needs. And I bet that’s how Nvidia provides the feature of automatic upscaling - it’s not the game that does it, it’s literally the graphic cards that does it. Leveraging AI of video games (like using the core to generate text like ChatGPT) is another matter - you want to have a game that works on all platforms even those that do not have such cores. Having code that says “if it has such cores execute that code on them. Otherwise execute it on CPU” is possible but imo that is more the domain of the computational libraries or the game engine - not the game developer (unless that developer develops its own engine)

But my point is that it’s not as simple as “just have each core implement an AI for my game”. These cores are just accelerators of matrix multiplication operations. Which are themselves used in generative AI. They need to be leveraged within the game dev software ecosystem before the game dev can use those features.

dillekant,

it’s not the game that does it, it’s literally the graphic cards that does it The game is just software. It will execute on the GPU and CPU. DLSS (proprietary) and XeSS (OSS) are both libraries to run the AI bits of the cards for upscaling, because they weren’t really being used for anything. Gamedevs have the skills to use them just like regular AI devs do.

By AI here I mean what is traditionally meant by “game AI”, pathfinding, decisionmaking, co-ordination, etc. There is a counterstrike bot which uses neural nets (CPU), and it’s been around for decades now. It is trained like normal bots are trained. You can train an AI in a game and then have the AI as NPCs, enemies, etc.

We should use the AI cores to do AI.

potterman28wxcv,

You could imagine training one AI for each game AI problem like pathfinding but what is see the benefit over just using classical algorithms?

Can DLSS and XeSS be used for something else than upscaling?

dillekant,

what is the benefit over just using classical algorithms

Utilisation. A CPU isn’t really built for deep AI code, so it can’t really do realistic AI given the frame budget of doing other things. This is famously why games have bad AI. Training AI via AI algorithms could make the NPCs more realistic or smarter, and you could do this within reasonable frame budgets.

potterman28wxcv,

I see. You want to offload AI-specific computations to the Nvidia AI cores. Not a bad idea, although it does mean that hardware that do not have them will have more CPU load so perhaps the AI will have to be tuned down based on the hardware they run on…

dillekant,

so perhaps the AI will have to be tuned down based on the hardware they run on…

Yes, similar to Raytracing which still needs a traditional pipeline, with AI you will have “enhanced” (Neural Nets) and “basic” (if statements).

wgbirne, do gaming w At which level you are at candy crush saga ?

3234, which according to the game 7% of players reached.

I was on level 2k5 years ago when there were only 3k levels. Now there are 15k…

Albin7326,
@Albin7326@suppo.fi avatar

Wow awesome ! Will it become so much harder as the level goes on ? And probabily how much years will take to finish all levels ?

wgbirne,

No, I don’t think that the levels become harder. They also gift so many free boosters to the players that it is way easier than 10 years ago when I first played the game.

I also feel like that after failing a level too often, that the game is cheating for you so that you don’t lose interest.

jarfil, (edited )

The game is “cheating” all the time. All the successful games with thousands of repetitive levels, go whale fishing and have engagement promoting strategies.

The general strategy is:

  • Introduce core mechanics “organically” over the first few levels, then keep a periodic “loading screen tip” reminder
  • Add a harder level every several easier ones
  • Introduce “boosters” with a few free ones
  • Dis-associate booster cost from real money cost by having an “in-game currency” (not actual currency) with some non-intuitive conversion ratios
  • Add a second kind of free-ish in-game currency to keep players used to making in-game purchases
  • If a player runs out of boosters, give them some free ones after a while
  • Improve user engagement with regular reminders and periodic offers
  • Promote FOMO with limited-time offers
  • Add mechanics with obvious MiniMax-ing strategies, that are however impossible for a person with a normal life to MiniMax, while offering a way to use in-game currencies to correct for that
  • Keep adding cosmetic changes
  • Introduce slightly new mechanics once in a while every a lot of levels, combine mechanics together if you’ve run out of ideas
  • For each level, have a predefined setup that makes it extremely easy to solve, along with normal generators that make them hard to solve
  • Use the easy setups to showcase new mechanics and boosters
  • Use the hard setups to make people want to spend boosters, and buy them, and use real money to purchase in-game currency to do that
  • Ideally, have a level generator with tunable difficulty that can be adapted for every user
  • Offer whales big spenders exclusive VIP levels, that require a lot of spending to win
  • Add one or more “leaderboards” for big spenders to showcase how much they spend good they are
  • Remove real world time clues for big spenders, don’t let them realize for how many hours they’ve been throwing their money away
  • If a big spender drops their spending or engagement level, shower them with offers, assign a personal manager, offer invitations to real world events… whatever it takes (up to a certain % of their expected monthly spending)
  • Periodically expand the game with hundreds and thousands of “new” levels… which follow the same rules

Bonus points if you add “seasons” and a “season pass”.

Extra bonus if you place and cross-promote a number of games with the same strategy but different cosmetic themes.

Casino mode: have thousands of “games” all in one, with different cosmetics, complex winning modes, and very simple mechanics (press button to spin, press button to auto-spin 1000 times, etc)… but in most jurisdictions you need to calculate and disclose the exact odds of winning in each mode for every level generator.

Snoopy, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of September 24th
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I have started cyberpunk 2077 thenkcontinued with its new update. The game is great, very good dialog. I’m enjoying it a lot on my steamdeck. :)

However, there is few issue as cyberpunk universe is tied to the old cyberpunk’s concepts/ideas from the 90s, too much trash and sexual ads.

Nomad, do gaming w What type of game you want to see that doesn't fully exist yet?

A modern dungeon keeper.

Deebster,
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I was going to suggest War for the Overworld but at eight years old perhaps that doesn’t qualify.

Nomad, do gaming w What type of game you want to see that doesn't fully exist yet?

A modern version of black and white

float, do gaming w What type of game you want to see that doesn't fully exist yet?

Diablo 3. Not the one Blizzard released.

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