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21Cabbage, do gaming w Art imitates life

I mean, I think the outside world has done a decent job of proving that we as a species aren’t great at handling large groups.

Zizzy, do gaming w Art imitates life

90% of 40 player raids are absolute nightmares. This is not right.

corvi,

But imagine if you grew up with and struggled alongside those 40 plays for your whole life.

teft,
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

Agreed. The sweet spot was ten man raids. You know everyone is pulling their weight. With 40 half the raid was slacking since those bosses didn’t need a lot of coordination.

Soulg,

I think the 20man mythic is the perfect place when you add in game balance considerations.

DarkDarkHouse,
@DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

15 player original UBRS was where it was at

Zizzy,

I agree, 10 was the most fun I ever had raiding in WoW by a long shot for a multitude of reasons.

lightnsfw,

That’s the maximum, not the amount that usually works. My car can go 120mph in the right conditions. Doesn’t mean it’s a good idea.

Zizzy,

Fair, but I think the analogy is closer to saying like “a car can go 120mph.” But also my reply was a bit tongue-in-cheek as evidenced by the fact that I pulled the 90% number out of nothing more than my anecdotal feeling.

But if we are going to take this post seriously, I find it highly suspect as WoW never even had any serious content where more than 40 players are acting simultaneously. And if the limit is 50, they would have had to have data even higher than that. Im not sure how they could collect such data when you would only have 40 players you put in a raid. Maybe for things where multiple raids try to work together? But then youre putting two groups that dont normally play together and comparing them to one that has been hand selected to be cohesive. Doesnt really make sense.

Flames5123,

FFXIV added 24 player hard raids called “chaotic raids” that’s absolutely a nightmare. They have a few 48 player raids that are more midcore content that works well, but 24 is super common and works well for other casual content. But most midcore/hardcore raids are 8 player, and that feels like a good spot.

Zizzy,

Yeah I did the 8man raids, loved them. Kind of miss doing them

Flames5123,

7.2 comes out in a week. New 8 player raids are dropping and people will be doing them and the savage versions for the next 3-4 months! Come on back!

000999, do gaming w Art imitates life

bro has clearly never played an AV pug

teft,
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

Which version? Alterac changed so many times you can’t really make that statement. Some were ok for pugs, some were idiotic.

000999,

The original 40 man AV

Edit: I haven’t played anything past cataclysm btw, no idea what changes were made

teft,
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

I absolutely agree, og AV was a pain in the dick. I played as a rogue though so I just ignored chat and ganked squishies.

000999,

Hehe yeah, I played rogue in the fresh classic release, peak gameplay. Ended up quitting due to the economy though unfortunately; Don’t wanna spend real life money on gold to buy the consumables needed to stand a chance in both pve and pvp.

And also don’t fancy competing for devilsaurs against people who literally have no life hahah

Sabata11792, do gaming w Art imitates life

OOP never played raid finder.

1luv8008135, do gaming w Art imitates life

Is this actually legit?

burgersc12,
@burgersc12@mander.xyz avatar

Yeah, World of Warcraft is a real thing

notabot,

Robin Dunbar, an anthropologist, found a relationship between primate brain size and average social group size, and extrapolated that to humans, giving a comfortable group size of around 150 people, known as Dunbar’s number. If you work on the principal that that would be about the average size of a tribe in an unstressed hunter society, it would seem quite pkausible that a hunting group would be around 50 people. It’s large enough to take down pretty much anything you’d want to hunt, and small enough to coordinate efficiently.

ch00f,

And it followed into some human culture. Certain Amish groups split up when their population approaches that number.

notabot,

That makes sense, it keeps communities small enough to be cohesive but large enough to function, and spreads the groups to mitigate risks.

MonkderVierte,

As far as i know, it was typically around 100 - 120 people and before i knew that i read somewhere that around 100 is the number of relationships the brain can handle.

notabot,

It’s a fairly nebulous number, it’s going to be different for each individual, and Dunbar was only positing an approximate relationship between brain size and group size. Even if humans can manage 150 or more relationships, it makes sense to keep your group smaller than that to allow for external relationships too.

daniskarma, do games w Your all-time favorite game? Let's discuss the best options!

By played hours the Binding Of Isaac probably.

By impact in my heart Metal Gear Solid.

paultimate14, do gaming w Is Rocket League a sports game?

True wisdom is realizing that most sports games are just a sub-genre of RPG.

alienabductionsg, do games w Favourite 90s platformer?

Sonic 3 & Knuckles

Coelacanth, do games w Day 246 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games l've been playing until l forget to post Screenshots
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Graphically it looks awesome too. At the native settings it would have had around 2012 it didn’t look to great, but after raising it to the max it looks really good. It can be crazy how future proofed older games are with graphic options.

One of the best things I’ve found for cleaning up older games is DLDSR. Hell, I try to use it on any game I can get away with, but on older games especially it’s great because you have so much excess FPS to play with that it’s basically free. The anti-aliasing effect of it is especially nice on older games and typically much better than the native AA solution.

KeefChief13,

Great game

Shawdow194, do games w Day 246 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games l've been playing until l forget to post Screenshots
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Enjoy! Great game

flykey, do games w I tried over 20 Steam Next demos so that you don't have to!

The integration of politics in video games can sometimes overshadow the fun and immersive experience they’re meant to provide. While games like Fallout, Horizon Zero Dawn, and Bioshock use political themes to drive their narratives, it’s easy to see how players might feel lectured rather than entertained. Oddworld and Factorio highlight the negative impacts of unchecked capitalism and industrialization, but these messages can come off as heavy-handed. On the other hand, games like Cookie Clicker unblocked offer a lighthearted escape, where the goal is simply to amass cookies without any underlying political commentary. It’s a reminder that not all games need to have a message – sometimes, it’s okay to just enjoy the simple pleasure of clicking and collecting.

passepartout, do games w Day 246 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games l've been playing until l forget to post Screenshots
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Favourite Far Cry 2 and 3 are the best of the bunch imho

MyNameIsAtticus,
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4 is probably one of my favorites but in the brief time i’ve spent with 3 it’s definitely a close contender

YungOnions, do games w Day 246 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games l've been playing until l forget to post Screenshots
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Far Cry 3 is probably my favourite of the series I’ve played.

daggermoon, do games w Day 246 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games l've been playing until l forget to post Screenshots

I tried playing this game on the PS3 only to be put off by the drops to 9fps. The game is borderline unplayable on the PS3. I still need to try the PS4 version. I’d buy it on Steam if Ubisoft didn’t require an account.

glimse,

Shit like this is why people pirate. Not saying you should do that but IMO it’s a legitimate reason.

I’m already paying you money for a SINGLE PLAYER game and you want me to pay MORE with my data? Fuck off, Ubisoft

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

Jesus, i know low FPS was the standard for the PS3/Xbox 360 era but 9 FPS sounds abysmal. I had no clue it was that bad on PS3

daggermoon,

Also worth mentioning I have an original fat model which may or may not make a difference depending on who you ask. Also I was “measuring” by eye. It was probably the lowest framerate I had seen a console game run. You would have to be way more patient than me to play through it in that state. I hear Silent Hill Homecoming is pretty bad too, I played it through emulation so I can’t say.

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

I know the OG fat is known for having a few issues, I can’t imagine it causes that big of a performance problem though so it must be the game. I just repasted my Slim model so i might give both it and Silent Hill Homecoming a try just to see for myself

Iskorion, do games w Your all-time favorite game? Let's discuss the best options!

Baldurs Gate 3 anyone? I’m kind of shocked to not see it in here. I’ve never enjoyed a game more. Only sad thing is that there won’t be official dlcs or expansions… But then again there’s mod support! Other than that I really enjoy EU IV after 2k hours, but all-time-favorite? I don’t think so.

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