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SilverShark, do gaming w TIL that Will Wright, while making The Sims, was inspired by Quake

This is awesome. He said indeed also that he had himself a lot of fun designing levels and places for video games, so he though making a video game out of the very process of designing a level would be cool.

A project from Will Wright that always fascinated me is SimAnt, a game from 1991 where you build an ant colony.

Admetus,

Building a world was quite novel back then.

Kolanaki,
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I remember finally getting my hands on the editor for the Build engine after a few years of making maps in Doom and Heretic and had thought 3D level design was only something super geniuses could do… Until Hammer showed it was just the garbage UI/UX of Build lol

ByteOnBikes,

Oh man I remember how incredible Hammer was.

I built my college campus! (And never showed anybody because this was during the Columbine era)

Kolanaki,
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I’m glad that when I made my high school for Counter-Strike, it was back in 1.6 and not more recently. Heard about a kid who did the same for CSGO just a few years ago and he got expelled and I think he was arrested because they saw it like “terrorist planning” or some bullshit…

DdCno1,

Subjectively at least - and this might be rose-tinted glasses influencing my judgment - it feels like it was more common, that certain genres were almost expected to come with an accessible level/map editor. I think I spent more time with the one from Age of Empires than the actual game.

Megaman_EXE,

Farcry and farcry 2 were my map editors of choice

Admetus,

That level editor was awesome in AoE, especially when errr…the nukeboys came out.

DdCno1,

All I’m saying is… BIGDADDY.

INHALE_VEGETABLES,

Sim ant was so awesome at the time, holy shit.

SoleInvictus,

I lost entire weeks of my childhood playing at being an ant.

Now that I’ve typed that out, bug big chunks of my childhood suddenly make more sense.

Edit: dammit. I’m leaving that typo because it’s perfect.

brsrklf,

Yeah, apparently SimCity itself was the result of Will Wright working on an helicopter shoot’m up and realising he had fun making maps for it.

That’s an interesting starting point for codifying a whole genre of games.

x00z, do games w What MMORPG are you playing, and why?
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Guild Wars 2 mostly for me.

I played WoW a lot until the expansion after WotLK.

metaStatic, do games w What MMORPG are you playing, and why?
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Eve online because I hate myself

livingcoder,

I’ve been playing for the past year and I’m about to quit. It really demands so much time and being on coms. I want an MMO that I can play while I have videos or a movie going on the other monitor.

metaStatic,
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I couldn't think of an amusement park MMO that would allow me to sit on a wormhole all day listening for an activation and watching youtube and not feel like I'm wasting money by not playing. the beautiful thing about eve is it requires as much of your time and attention as you're willing to give and it never feels like you're not progressing.

livingcoder,

I feel almost the exact opposite. I don’t feel any progression and I do not enjoy the PvP elements of the game at all. I’m glad that you enjoy it, though.

Edit: by comparison, I’ve recently started playing Deep Rock Galactic and feel a great sense of progression without the game-ending effects of PvP. Losing a ship in Eve is a guaranteed time loss.

metaStatic,
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Eve is a hardcore full loot PvP game with real stakes, if that isn't your jam then Eve isn't.

The moment to moment game play is garbage but it's those moments of risking it all for glory that still get the heart racing and the hands shaking no matter how seasoned you are that's something literally no other game has been able to do for me.

I hope you at least played with friends because I couldn't think of anything worse or more boring than joining a large faceless null sec feeder corp and grinding PvE for a year in peace time.

MrScottyTay, do games w What MMORPG are you playing, and why?

I’m not playing it at the moment but the most recent one i was actively subscribed to was ffxi. I find that now when I want to pay an MMO I stray away from the wow likes (if i want that style it’s xiv for me though). I like the older ones that use more archaic combat systems because they’re often very unique on a genre where everything now feels very similar.

Also here’s an obligatory “I miss Wildstar”

Kingofthezyx,

FFXI ruined all other MMORPGs for me, because there is nothing like it and probably never will be again.

fartsparkles,

What made it so special and unique? I missed out on it back in the day and it feels a little late to try and solo it (if that’s even possible).

memo,
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Actually, nowadays it’s very soloable: you can experience all of the story by yourself thanks to the Trust system. I only recently tried it, and control scheme wasn’t as bad as I expected (but you do need some patience). From what I gather you don’t really need to learn about macros and gear swapping mid fight in order to clear story content.

Kit,

You had to team up to accomplish anything, so it was easy to make friends. The game also had zero handholding, which made it incredibly immersive. You can still experience the game as it was in 2004 on the private server HorizonXI. It’s popular and has thousands of people online at all times.

Kingofthezyx,

In addition to the community-aspects others have noted, the combat system is a bit slower-paced and extremely strategic. The jobs(classes) are all extremely unique and the sub-job system allows you to play them differently as needed. You can switch jobs on one character so you really grow attached to your specific character rather than making different characters for different classes.

You can swap-gear mid combat which gives you a lot of situational flexibility that makes it feel like you’re actively contributing to your success or failure. As an example you might have a set of great for a specific ability, or switch to defensive gear if you draw the enemy’s attention.

Additionally, the story is really nuanced and the side-characters are often very realistic in their choices, motivations, and there is a sense of consistency throughout the world that really makes it feel “lived-in” in a way a lot of other MMOs don’t bother with.

Honestly I could go on and on. It’s just a really special world and will stick with me for life. Even a few years out from playing I still get the itch to go back constantly. Vana’diel is like a second home for me.

Kit,

Beautifully written and spot-on

Dualswords,

Horizonxi. It’s set in CoP era and has a population of near 2k during primetime. It’s been hella fun.

catloaf,

Wildstar was cool. I got a free shirt and Logitech keyboard out of their booth at PAX one year. (Never played the game, though.)

Stormdancer, do games w What MMORPG are you playing, and why?

GW2 is my jam. I love the painterly art style, Charr are the best beast-race out there, I like the combat system (WoW drove me crazy! Hated not being able to dodge). So… don’t listen to me.

livingcoder, do games w What MMORPG are you playing, and why?

I tried GW2, but I’m just not a fan of the graphics. There are also numerous clipping issues throughout the world. With a game as old as GW2, it worries me that simple vertex issues still exist. I need to see what end-game looks like, though. Maybe it’s worth it, idk.

mox, do games w What MMORPG are you playing, and why?

Elite Dangerous, because it can be as intense or chill as I want, it’s a remarkably good space sim, and I can easily opt out of PvP while still affecting the state of the galaxy.

livingcoder,

I’ve wanted to get back into Elite Dangerous but I wasn’t even aware that it was an MMO. What am I missing?

mox, (edited )

I wasn’t even aware that it was an MMO.

The entire galaxy is shared by everyone playing the game, in real time. You can encounter each other, fight, team up, or avoid each other, and your actions influence the state of the shared simulation. Definitely an MMO.

What am I missing?

The most recent thing you probably missed was the thargoid war, culminating in a battle with the titan that parked itself over Earth and took over the Sol system. You might compare it to a fantasy MMO raid, but at a much larger scale.

Colonisation is coming soon.

Kaldo, do games w What MMORPG are you playing, and why?

I dunno if it counts as an MMORPG but Warframe has sunk its claws back into me and I can't get it out of my head. The new update is mindblowing in many ways and I'm so into whatever the devs keep cooking if they continue like this.

It's a tough game to get into but I've been playing it on and off for a decade now and there's nowhere I'd rather be

eRac,

If I haven’t played in a year or so. Will there be any painful grind barriers to get to the 1999 content?

cryptiod137,

Depends, if you’ve done The New War then no

eRac,

Excellent! I might check it out!

Kaldo,

Just completing the main quests afaik, if it's only been a year then there shouldn't be too many.

They actually went back and reduced the painful grinds for some of the previous stuff, like crafting railjack/necramechs and most syndicates are now much easier to progress.

DWin, (edited ) do gaming w What is your Game of the Year?

Until Then

More of a visual novel, but I had an amazing time with it. I cried. It was beautiful. I’ve been learning the piano since I finished it.

Go in completely blind if you do decide to play it!

knokelmaat,

Seems right down my alley. Does it feature any triggering subjects? (Mainly severe mental health stuff and suicide is stuff I avoid for the time being)

Do you have recommendations for similar games?

DWin, (edited )

Sorry to hear that, there’s been times where I’ve avoided certain bits of media for similar reasons, and that feeling of “should I invest myself in this?” while trying to keep yourself safe. I hope things improve for you.

I don’t want to say anything about Until Then really as I think the experience would be hampered knowing anything about it, but it’ll still be there for you in the future. There are heavier moments throughout the story however, I cried at both the beauty and the sadness at multiple points in the game.

Some comparable games that have some similar themes or vibes

I think a lot of these kinda stories revolve around the sadder parts of life to elicit emotion that drives us towards connecting with characters in the same way that seeing hardship and struggle makes you care about your fellow human. To me it feels that through these experiences we’re able to see our humanity in a rawer form, perhaps its because there’s a cost to ourselves due to our emotional investment. There’s no need to take on that cost unless you have the emotional space to do so though, but that cost is often what’s made it so great. I didn’t play any games for just over 2 weeks after I finished Until Then, I just started playing the piano, went on walks/bike rides/runs, and decided to get more involved at a local board game cafe. But really, no need to force yourself into that, focus on yourself, do the things you need to do to improve your situation internally or externally, it’ll be there for you then.

If you want some story-esque games that feel much less soul-consuming, here’s a few of my favourites:

  • Stray - it made me have wobbly emotions, but it doesn’t have quite the same “sting” as the games above
  • Cloudpunk
  • Metro Exodus - Bit of an oddball here, probably a few eyebrows raised, but I think it’s one of the only games I’ve seen actual intimacy (and not sexual intimacy), however that’s few and far between, the pew pew is great

And a couple of cozy games that are a bit adjacent to these

Edit: Also sorry for the monologue haha, didn’t mean for that to get so long, just started rambling

knokelmaat,

You absolutely beautiful person! What a thoughtful and sincere reply, I cannot thank you enough.

You’re 100 percent right that those experiences will still be there for me in the future when I feel the space. For now I am limiting myself to your second group of suggestions (I’ve played the first Frog Detective and loved it), knowing that your first group is there when I feel like it.

I did already play Edith Finch though, a masterpiece in my opinion, but indeed quite heavy (but extremely hopeful too).

DWin,

Naw shucks haha, kind of you to say. I’m glad my ramble/vent was worth it!

Since ya played Edith Finch, in Until Then you form a much stronger connection with the characters, but the content and topics it faces are less extreme What is there will hit harder because of that connection I think.

I hope you enjoy any of the games I suggested! Also really, just get yourself Donut County. It’s a stupid cozy romp. Do racoon crimes.

gamermanh, do games w What MMORPG are you playing, and why?

Trying to hold onto my desire to play FFXIV since I have a personal large house and years invested

But honestly the recent expansion having the worst story we’ve seen in a final fantasy ANYTHING alongside multiple staff members pretending Wuk Lamat’s voice acting was acceptable (and the large portion of the player base that will call you a transphobe for that opinion) has me seriously considering if this is the end of the line for me

Tried picking up GW2 but tank controls disgust me

snooting,

What about gw2 “tank” controls disgust you?

There arguably isn’t even the concept of a tank in gw2.

gamermanh,

Tank controls for movement: forward/back with only “turn” right instead of “strafe”

Resident Evil controls

KombatWombat,

You can rebind a/d to strafe left/right instead. Most players do.

snooting,

You can easily change that in the settings. Agreed that it’s not a good default though

gamermanh,

Tried that, didn’t work, uninstalled 10m later

snooting,

lol, it’s worked for me for years.

memo, (edited )
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I haven’t played Dawntrail yet, but I have to admit that I felt something was troubling the game even in earlier expansions: as I finished both ShB and EW I couldn’t help but be left with a state of “oh, tome grinding… again… in the same exact way as all the other expansions”. No one seemed to care, however, so I thought it was my problem. And it’s a big shame, because I expected differently from Dawntrail: from what I heard, it feels more like the character going on a vacation than anything, with really just the same gameplay loop.

Another thing I was expecting from Dawntrail, apart from big gameplay changes, is to redefine the story more significantly: FFXIV up to Endwalker was a great story, but sometimes I couldn’t help it but feel like I didn’t want to be so central to everything: it’s great when MMOs make you feel like “a hero from the sidelines” because there’s less immersion breaking (and FFXI did this succesfully, if I recall). I think writers really dug themselves in too deep of a hole:

spoilerhow the hell do you write a threat that feels significant after you’ve talked about universes, ancestral gods from previous eras trying to destroy everything, etcetera? I understand that resetting everything to the point of no one having any recollection of the Hero of Light would have required a lot of writing, but maybe it would’ve been better - having EW’s ending trigger a sort of memory-wipe similar to that of FFXIV 1.0’s story.

From what I hear - reason I haven’t played it yet - is that Dawntrail is fram from such expectations. I agree that once you try FFXIV’s legacy controls you can’t go back. Same thing goes for gamepad optimization.

GaMEChld,

You just need a way to rationalize it. For me, I focused on the fact that the praise the Warrior of Light usually receives is in the vein of never giving up, not that they are just plain powerful. As such, I don’t view my character as any more powerful than any of the Scions, or Raubahn. I think the narrative of Shadowbringers and Endwalker support that idea. That fight with Zeno’s at the end was just pure willpower at the end, neither had any strength left and they still fought till they couldn’t move.

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Nefara, do games w What MMORPG are you playing, and why?

Been playing GW2 since beta, but haven’t been that active since I had my a baby. I’ve played thousands of hours, have over 40k AP, was even mildly famous in the community for a bit, but I just haven’t had the time for any games lately. It’s still my favorite though, I love the art, the music, the player centric design and how they really try to make a fun experience and not waste your time. I tried Star Trek Online because I heard they had screen writers from the shows writing some of the content, and had enough fun to max a couple of characters and upgrade a ship or two and then they raised the level cap on me and made it all obsolete. I quit. I have no patience to put up with that kind of crap. I’ve been spoiled by GW2’s design philosophy, and they’ve proved worthy of my trust and time. I recommend it to anyone looking for an MMO.

snooting,

Wow, that’s quality armor!

Nefara,

By Droknar’s hammer, what a savings!

Omega_Jimes,

GW2 is the first MMO i out over 2k hours into. It’s a shame that the last few years have felt pretty meh. I haven’t been playing seriously since PoF, life got busy, and the narrative just wasn’t hitting with me. Also the desert maps weren’t that great imo. I guess i have more problems than I expected with it.

itsaerosphere, do gaming w What is your Game of the Year?
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THE FINALS

Rather advanced gameplay, extremely fast-paced and chaotic, quite heavy to run, even with most of it running on servers.

But damn when it was first released a year ago, I instantly got hooked from the vibes and then stayed for the breath of fresh air in the FPS genre. The description above also happens to match really well with my ADHD tendencies.

There’s a reason why it took 47% of my entire play time this year.

BmeBenji,

I played every beta of the Finals that I could get accepted into. It felt like what I wanted a new Battlefield game to be. The destructible floors and bridges made it so much fun to set up traps in ways no other game made it possible.

Weirdly enough I have yet to install it since its full release. Still looks like the same amount of fun!

itsaerosphere,
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The fun is still very much here, give it a try!

HeavyRaptor,

Good game. I played during/after the beta, I felt like it needed a bit more variety in guns and maps. Have they been adding stuff since?

itsaerosphere, (edited )
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You bet they did:

Season 2 CNS/ “The Finals Hacked” theme:

  • New gamemodes:

Powershift (tug-of-war meets convoy on a moving platform) Terminal Attack (Search & Destroy, but it’s hacking terminals instead)

  • Sys$Horizon, new map, “unfinished/leaked” 80s style
  • Hacking-themed gadgets such as the dematerializer and the gateway
  • Weapons ofc (I don’t remember which ones tho)

Season 3: Japan theme:

  • We don’t talk about ranked changes
  • New game-mode: World Tour (similar to unranked tournament, but 8 teams total, win points progression and end-of-season multibuck rewards)
  • Bow for light, dual blades for medium, winch claw for heavy
  • Map: Kyoto 1568

Season 4: Sponsorships

  • Reverted previous season’s ranked changes
  • New careers: sponsorships (choose which in-game sponsor to sign with, get prizes with their themes and compete on world tour to determine which sponsor wins the season) (yes, you can bet people started dissing each other for fun)
  • Dual eagles for heavy, dmr for medium, shotgun for light
  • Fortune Stadium: the best parts of previous maps, mashed into one and themed with the season sponsors’ colors

Season 5: Time for la fiesta, it’s the anniversary

  • New map: Bernal, Mexico
  • New gadgets: Black hole for lights, chain trap for heavy
  • Shak-50 for heavy, some incendiary shotgun for medium
  • Jukebox to relive all the OST from current and previous seasons
  • 2 new sponsors, one returning

That’s only what I remember from the top of my head, they added so much. Not to mention the copious amount of high quality cosmetics and the very forgiving monetization

Will8250, do gaming w What is your Game of the Year?

Helldivers 2. Enjoyed the first one. Although I was skeptical of the third person view they proposed for the second one because the game can be so chaotic, I am enjoying the second one even more.

gravitas_deficiency, do gaming w The hills are alive with the sound of murder

woah, CEOs get wings here? Weird.

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