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rtxn, do games w A cool feature/mechanic you want to see in games again

I want to see puzzles that are implemented using the physics engine. And I don’t mean “toss the axe in the proper arc to trigger the gate” physics. I mean “stack the bricks on one end of the seesaw to balance it long enough to make the jump to the next platform”. Or “use the blue barrels’ buoyancy to raise the platform out of the water”.

RollingZeppelin,

Yesss and more destruction physics. I miss watching cars crumple and get torn apart like in the burnout games. There was a really old ww2 dogfighting game where the plane wings could get sawn off and you’d see this smoking plane spiralling into the ground while the wing flew off in the opposite direction before the plane exploded on the ground.

thesohoriots,

Red Faction was great for that. You could go around, sure. Or just bust through the damn wall.

SlurpingPus,

Check out Wreckfest. It’s mostly basically rallycross with plenty of damage. The physics is better than in Burnout, afaik. The sequel game was just recently either released or announced.

RollingZeppelin,

Ohh I totally forgot about that one, thanks!

teawrecks,

I think those were mind blowing when I first played hl2, just because real time physics and destruction was novel, but now I think they grind the pacing to a halt. I think they just don’t work in an action shooter IMO.

rtxn,

My opinion is the exact opposite. Narrative games, even action shooters, need to have high action and low action parts in balance. If high action segments are excessive, it can lead to combat fatigue. If low action parts are excessive, the player gets bored and the pacing dies.

Half-Life 2 E1, the “Low Lives” chapter, has probably the most stressful combat in the game because the player has to balance so many things. Shooting the zombies attacking Gordon versus helping Alyx fight. Helping Alyx versus keeping the flashlight charged. Firearms versus explosive props. All of that in oppressive darkness. Combat fatigue sets in. The short puzzle segments, even as simple as crawling through a vent to flip a switch, are opportunities to take a breath, absorb the environment, and prepare for the next segment – especially at the end of that particular chapter, when the player escapes the zombies and has a chance to wind down.

At the same time, puzzles, by their slower nature, are excellent for delivering narrative and player training, and to let the player absorb the atmosphere. Alyx’s first encounter with the stalkers in “Undue Alarm” wouldn’t have had the same emotional impact if the player could just pop them in the head and move on.

In contrast, most of “Highway 17” is just a prolonged vehicle-based puzzle. By the time the player reaches the large railway bridge, they might be sick of driving. I know I was. It’s a relief to finally engage in some platforming and long-range combat while traversing the bridge.

So what are the narrative values of my two examples? The cinderblock seesaw in “Route Kanal” is just player training. A show, don’t tell method to let the player know that physics puzzles will be a factor. It’s also a short break after the on-foot chase, before the encounter with the hunter chopper. In “Water Hazard”, the contraptions serve a larger narrative purpose: they’re the tools of the rebels’ refugee evacuation effort. The player utilizes them like one of the refugees would have.

EarlGrey,

The best bits of the Half-Life games are the more slow parts. Just taking in the environmental storytelling, solving simple puzzles, etc. Helps to make the more action sequences feel more impactful and intense.

SlurpingPus,

When I was replaying ‘HL2’ around ten years ago, I ran around the whole map looking for where I can get outside of the plot course, especially in the slower parts of the levels. This culminated in me driving the hoverboat up a three-meter-high wooden platform, falling from that platform myself, and not being able to climb up again to get the boat. After which I had to run from the attack helicopter on foot, and swim by myself later on that level.

I use about the same approach in the original ‘Deus Ex’, which I’ve been replaying recently: investigating every nook and cranny, being 100% stealthy, trying to go where the game shouldn’t allow me to be. I actually found an exit from a scripted part of a level where only one path is normally possible — though there was nothing to do outside of that part. The game also gives experience points for getting into some remote or secret places.

BigMilk13, do games w Settings you believe ANY game should have? (This is me advocating for a restart/reboot button on ALL games)
@BigMilk13@lemmy.world avatar

The first time I boot up the game, immediately show me the settings menu. Whether its window settings, sound volume, subtitles, or graphics settings, please do not make me sit through a long cutscene or (god forbid) make me play the game without being able to adjust settings first. Sometimes the window is screwed up, the graphics are pushing my system too hard, or any number of other issues on first boot.

I can think of 1 or 2 games that booted to settings or booted to a truncated settings menu with common settings, but I would love if this became standard for all PC games.

MrRubik, do games w Best vertical games on Android?

Downwell is one of the best mobile games of all-time

play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devolve…

SlartyBartFast,

Except for the lack of official gamepad support, in before anyone links to that one github with the hardcoded screen coordinates

Kolanaki, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of November 30th
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

I’ve been playing GTA5’s story mode again. I haven’t played through it since it first came out on PC. I missed the fun dialogue, over the top situations, and the actually good gameplay that isn’t marred by “bugs” that are so consistent in the Online portion that it’s hard to see them as actual bugs and not intentional annoyances designed to discourage griding for cash to buy the fun stuff.

Honestly the most annoying thing in the story mode is how Franklin immediately goes home to wear the laziest bum outfit imaginable after I just spent like a million dollars buying him actually good drip and then switching to Micheal or Trevor to do a mission.

I could write a book on how many little niggling annoyances exist in GTAO.

AceFuzzLord, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of November 30th

I just started the demo to the Pokemon Shard fan game. It’s looks pretty nice and plays nice as well.

I also just started playing the Dungeon Clawler beta update with the new fire character. So far, fire is a weak debuff that I could never see myself playing with intentionally.

Also just went through and got the last ducks I needed to unlock the credits level of Fling To The Finish and I think it’s clever to make the end credits a playable level that doesn’t feel out of place.

Otherwise, I have made some progress on Toon Town Rewritten. Slowly slogging and grinding my way through.

viral.vegabond, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of November 30th

-Escape from Duckov (still)

-Constance has been amazing so far

-Spindle (this one’s a bit more relaxed)

Deconceptualist, do games w My review on the AYN Odin 3

Ok serious comment: That’s a damn good review. And a surprisingly good quality device that’s a little ahead of its time.

I’m impressed that you reached out to devs, contrasted with other handhelds, and tried so many different games. That’s almost everything I’d want to know.

What kind of battery life does it get with various games? Sorry if I missed that. I expect ARM is a lot less power hungry than x86.

PerfectDark,
@PerfectDark@lemmy.world avatar

Thank you so much! It’s always a bit of a nervy experience when I’m sharing a review. Even more so when I linked it in their own Discord, because if anyone will rip through details and point out flaws…its gaming fans. So hearing this? SO kind of you!

I’m lucky that I manage to somehow convince all these people (the devs and other creators!) that they should in fact be friends with me, and that they’re all kind enough to listen to my requests. In fact, the PortMaster team are going to let me interview them soon, so that’s something to look forward to!

Battery depends on settings, like always. But one example was Nier: Automata with high settings across the board, for around 1:25 playing, it took just under 20% of battery. But that’s because I pushed the settings. Emulating PS2 it coasts, but best to limit to to say 2.5x upscale (obviously), unless you’re going for a full 4K in a monitor. And further down, the old systems will go for eons. Android native games gave me 7ish hours at the highest settings I could opt for? While running at 120FPS and not dropping a single frame.

Take this with salt, because I’m hopped up on codeine waiting for Tuesday when I can get tooth pain sorted!

(thank you again SO much for the nice comment!)

jacksilver,

Just a note, I’m pretty sure Arm is only “efficient” in low power modes. I’m not sure there is much (if any) energy saving when running heavy loads.

For example, running heavy ML workloads on a Apple Silicon still burns through battery.

crmsnbleyd,
@crmsnbleyd@sopuli.xyz avatar

Your example might not be correct since I’d expect ML to be more about the GPU?

Deconceptualist,

Is the GPU in this chipset not also ARM architecture? Genuine question, I’m more of a desktop PC guy and don’t usually follow mobile platforms.

thatKamGuy,

To the best of my understanding, AMD/Nvidia/Intel each run their own forms of architecture (eg. AMDs RDNA) which are probably closest to RISC for simple instructions and SIMD/SIMT (single instruction, multiple data/threads) for more complex vector calculations.

gwl, do games w A cool feature/mechanic you want to see in games again

Did you know Shadows of Mordor copyrighted the Nemesis System and then proceeded to never use it in any other games ever again despite people calling out for it?

That’s one I’d like to see

JackbyDev,

Patented, not copyrighted, but I think you double posted.

gwl,

Nah, they’re different comments

Auth, do games w Settings you believe ANY game should have? (This is me advocating for a restart/reboot button on ALL games)

Every game should have the option to toggle motion blur off, toggle frame gen and upscaling off.

RampantParanoia2365,

I don’t think I can name one game without a motion blur slider, or toggle.

Auth,

I’m pretty sure just cause 3 didnt have an option to disable it and it was horrible. They fixed it later I believe.

9point6, do games w Best vertical games on Android?

I guess it’s my turn to say it in a thread:

Shattered pixel dungeon

Best classic roguelike on mobile IMO

I was going to also suggest Downwell but it doesn’t seem to be available any more

Sturgist,
@Sturgist@lemmy.ca avatar

Bump for Shattered

tal,
a_person,

Also, rat king pixel dungeon, a fun fork with added items.

blimthepixie, do games w Best vertical games on Android?
besmtt, do games w Best vertical games on Android?
original_reader,

This is so basic, it is creative. 😄

garretble, do games w Best vertical games on Android?
@garretble@lemmy.world avatar

It’s an older game, but Downwell is fun. Just a little action/arcade game where you fall down a well and try to get combos by not touching the ground by bouncing off of enemies.

play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devolve…

silverchase, do games w Privacy respecting "Charades" game for Android
@silverchase@sh.itjust.works avatar

There are a few web adaptations of Monikers, a party game that has a charades component. I’d imagine a bit of the fun of the original is lost, though, because part of the setup of the real game is everyone building the deck together.

nine11rsr, do games w Best vertical games on Android?

Rogue Adventure is great. I recently switched to iOS but I miss playing this game.

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