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thingsiplay, (edited ) do gaming w TIL I can restore games on Steam, which I removed years ago

Yes, removed games are not really removed, just hidden. And for the reader here, we are not talking about hiding in the client. If you go to support page of game at help.steampowered.com/en/wizard/HelpWithGame and click “I want to permanently remove this game from my account”, then its like you wouldn’t own the game anymore.

Not many know you can go to same page and restore the license. It’s noted that you get the same license of game than before, not a new license. I don’t know why Steam has the permanent removal, if its not permanent at all. But now you know; you can restore. And that is what the user in this post is talking about.

Edit: I thought about why that maybe. It makes sense to keep the license bound to an account, so the key cannot be activated again by someone else. Otherwise people could sell their activated keys like that.

Tarogar,

There are reasons for why that is possible, for better or worse.

To reverse malicious actions that may have been taken by other people that got access to the account for any reason for example.

There may even be legal reasons for why that is the case. Licensing law can be quite complicated.

And then there is the fact that if it’s hidden it’s effectively gone anyways and that may actually be what people actually care about. Not whether or not they technically still have that game or not. People wanting a clean library is a thing and it ties into the concept that is the right to be forgotten.

CommanderCloon, (edited )

Also, even if it was permanent, it would still be something like a permanently_removed set to TRUE in a database. License keys probably are one of those things no company truly ever deletes from their records.

Tarogar,

Yet… Ubisoft did go and “remove” the keys for the crew when they shut that one down. No one but them can really say if they actually deleted them or not. though I have my doubts with how that company has acted in recent years.

averyminya,

I feel like the main reason would be money laundering prevention. It’s slightly harder to create new accounts than it would be to have one account repeatedly buy, remove, and repeat for new licenses.

kindenough, do games w Is overwatch 2 really that bad?

Your time in this world is one of your most valuable assets. If a game is incredibly boring to you, you should put it down and play something else that you enjoy.

Tanoh,

The same goes for pretty much everything in life, not just games. It might suck in the short term, but just don’t put up with friends/partners/jobs you don’t like. Make a change

Jumi, do games w Is overwatch 2 really that bad?

I got hooked by the gameplay so even though I’m disgusted by the monetisation I come back almost every day.

warm, do games w Is overwatch 2 really that bad?

Nah, they took the fun out of it to sell skins.

warmaster, do games w Is overwatch 2 really that bad?

I play Overwatch since OW1’s launch. It’s competitive/ranked play mode is incomparable to say… CounterStrike 2’s level of polish for example. That said, it’s crazy fun in Quick Play (unranked), and if you are looking for a hero shooter where the whole hero is entirely different from others, then it’s the best free to play hero shooter since all microtransactions available are only cosmetics. No pay to win mechanic available whatsoever.

The bad press is because between OW1 and OW2 they completly trashed the competitive scene, while also overpromising and not delivering at all, a PVE campaign mode. After that, they moved to a semi-pay-to-win model where there where timed exclusive heroes behind a battle pass, after that you could unlock them by grinding, but that model has evolved into a cosmetic-only model. So, no more semi-pay-to-win, only cosmetics.

So, right now, OW2 is closer to OW1’s greatness than it has ever been since they trashed it. Not there yet in terms of balance, polish, competitive mode, but it has grown in the amount of modes, heros and maps.

For me, for what I value, OW2 is the best hero shooter. We’ll see when I get a hold of Marvel Rivals.

rockerface, do games w Is overwatch 2 really that bad?

It’s not that bad. The vocal minority likes to cry

Moneo,

I agree. I was a die-hard ow1 fan and quit because of the absolute disgrace that was the transition from OW1 -> OW2. I have every reason to hate OW2 but I don’t because it’s a fine game and improves on OW1 in every way that is important to me (gameplay and balance).

rockerface,

Yeah, the OW2 launch was a disaster, but saying the game now is worse than OW1 was is just rose tinted glasses

kaitco, do games w Is overwatch 2 really that bad?

Typing this in-between matches and after playing for the last 4 hours: It sucks, but I’m still here 😂

Honestly though: If you don’t take super serious, it’s fun to play. Every now and then I’ll buy the battle pass because there’s some character skins I want and when I can get a group of friends to play, we always have a blast together.

People who lose their minds over a Moira who “does too much DPS” or send “tank diff” into the game chat make it annoying to play, and it can get frustrating if you’re a streaming who is trying to rank or something, but just jumping on to have some fun playing in the different roles and getting good at different characters’ kits makes the game remain fun.

helenslunch, do games w Is overwatch 2 really that bad?
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Look at Reddit, Twitter, Discord, Facebook, etc. Consumers cry and complain but they almost never leave. That always leads to perpetually-increasing exploitation.

So yes, its that bad, and no, its not on death’s door.

harcesz, do cyberbezpieczenstwo w CD/DVD nieznanego pochodzenia
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Jeśli nie używasz windowsa to szansa jakiegokolwiek zagrożenia jest mniejsza od tego, że promieniowanie kosmiczne skieruje twoją przeglądarkę na złą domenę.

jordanlund, do games w Why Do People Still Play Destiny 2?
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I dropped it like it was hot when they cut out 1/2 the content I paid for. I might come back if they bring it back.

scrubbles,
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Nope, even then they burned me, I think Bungie is officially dead as I used to know it.

jordanlund,
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Pretty much how I feel. Removing content disrespected the money I spent on the game, sunsetting gear disredpected the time I spent in game.

Though they DID reverse the sunsetting decision after everyone told them it was an awful idea.

vikingtons, (edited )
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And they didn’t retroactively unlock impacted gear. I had a couple god rolled blast furnaces relgated to casual PvP despite the absurd amount of time I had to put into that bullshit forge activity.

Anyone else notice the extent of bungies creativity as far as destiny is concerned:

  • Stand on plates
  • Shoot targets
  • 3 damage phases
  • Juggle balls
jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Goes for Raid design too…

Take a group of 6, split into three groups of two.

A, B, and C.

A go to the right, B go to the left, C stay in the center.

Do the thing, then rotate, A to B, B to C, C to A.

Do it again. Rotate again. Do it again. Rotate again.

Damage phase. Repeat until someone screws up and you all die or boss is dead.

vikingtons,
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It’s funny is how gorgeous the endgame content looks. Sure it plays out very much in the same way, but it’s kinda crazy how hard they go in visuals on parts of the game that very few players can reach. I’m not opposed to this in principle, mind you.

But yeah the raids and dungeons didn’t really grip me in the end. Pretty as they are, there’s a lot of arbitrary systems at play which kill my engagement.

scrubbles,
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To have it in the first place though while the game is still active, horrid idea in the first place.

vikingtons, do games w Why Do People Still Play Destiny 2?
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Something along the lines of hiring an expert on gambling. There’s a lot of game mechanics in games like Destiny 2 which lock you in through little feedback loops.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIuAeFu84kY

It’s a good looking game with decent movement and gunplay, but it fully disrespects your time. RIP if you ended up buying the game in 2017 with the first few expansions because that shit gone now.

Buttflapper,

Seems like most live service games these days are built off of addiction or gambling. For example, gacha gaming is becoming more popular everyday, with their rolls and gambling loops. You can see this in games like Genshin impact. Kind of makes me miss the old days where we had games like battlefield and Call of Duty old school style, just running around playing something that we enjoy for fun.

vikingtons,
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Yup. The gaming industry got lucrative enough for the bean counters to swoop in and bastardise.

KingThrillgore, do games w Why Do People Still Play Destiny 2?
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The same reason people use ketamine. It feels good.

therealjcdenton, do games w Why Do People Still Play Destiny 2?

There is no competitor, and no other game offers the same raid experience as d2

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA, do games w Why Do People Still Play Destiny 2?
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

because they enjoy it?

eramseth, do games w Why Do People Still Play Destiny 2?

Because it’s fun and I have friends I play it with.

The thing with destiny is that there are somewhat diminishing returns in terms of time invested vs in-game advancements.

The min-maxing and endless search for God rolls and the best builds can push you that extra 10% or so over the gen-pop player base who doesn’t spend 20hrs a week on the game.

But gen-pop and casual can still approach end game content without feeling like a total noob.

That said, there is still end game content that is geared towards “power users”… master nightfall, master raids, etc.

Also, as a D1 year 1 player who actually kinda gets what’s going on, story-wise, it’s great. But admittedly comprehending the story is very difficult given where they drop you in if you just started the game.

I will also applaud Bungie for making adjustments over the years. For sure it’s a lot less addictive than it used to be, and less of a grind. Or maybe its as much as a grind as you want it to be. The changes over the years have made the core game more approachable while they still held some high-level end game stuff for the die-hards. They tried to do the same with the story and it kinda works a little.

Also, for me, the raids are really great. Haven’t really experienced that sort of game play, teamwork, puzzle solving, and requirement for perseverance and gaming skill anywhere else. they’re just plain fun, especially if you have a good group to play with.

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