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bbbhltz, (edited ) do gaming w Let's discuss: Final Fantasy
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I’ve always liked FF. We had FF1 on the NES back when but the battery in it was dead so we had to the leave the console on. My brother got through it after a good number of afternoons.

I never got into it though. I like watching it. I remember the obsession around FFVII.

Then I picked up one of those SNES Mini things that came with… FFIV. That one got me. I wasn’t surprised to find out that loads of people love that one in particular.

smeg, do gaming w when Nintendo finally runs out of ideas

multiple human hands

It wasn’t weird until you specified human

teawrecks,

100% of this post was clearly AI generated slop.

theangriestbird,

You never know with Nintendo. Don’t forget that Mario lives in a world where humans look like this:

https://beehaw.org/pictrs/image/bafd2ff6-e235-48f8-83f1-93d8b6b4c6bd.webp

So then…what is Mario?

Glide, do gaming w Let's discuss: Visual Novels

I’ve gotta put this one out there because it will largely get overlooked every time the topic of “Visual Novel” gets brought up, but Digimon: Survive.

As a tactics RPG, it’s pretty mid. Character growth and customization exists, but isn’t quite as expansive as I’d like for that kind of game. It’s no Final Fantasy Tactics, for example, but comparing it to other tactics games doesn’t do it justice, because it’s one of the better-to-best written visual novels I have ever played.

Each of the endings explores the way small changes in circumstance can heavily impact people’s decisions, each of the characters and their partner monsters are oozing with personality, and some of the potential outcomes for each character represents some of the most wild, fucked up, and human emotional responses possible. Your decisions as the main character have minor impacts in the lines of which characters reach their end of their growth arcs, and which evolutions are available to your partner and some of your companions partners, and the collective value system limits which of the main branches you’re permitted to explore for your ending. Which it doesn’t boast the wide assortment of branching narrative paths that some visual novels take, it does still succeed in making your decisions feel like they matter.

And this is completely aside from the fact that it’s a Digimon game. A franchise widely viewed as “for children”, yet it engages with heavy existential themes and doesn’t shy from letting horrible things happen to good, and bad, people. People die, on screen, in ways I would not want small children to see. In a lot of ways, the game is a functional “reboot” of the franchise, sharing a lot of commonalities with Digimon Adventure, but using older characters, more serious mature themes, and never referencing the monsters as “digimon”. In fact, the term is only used once, during the epilogue of one of the endings, otherwise they’re referred to as Kemonogami, and treated like Yokai. They’re engrained in the history and legendsof the world, and it’s an amazing take on the franchise.

I’m gushing at this point, but what really matters is it’s an extremely well-written visual novel with competent enough Tactical RPG gameplay, and also currently on a rather deep Steam Sale. Cannot recommend it enough.

SirDankbud, do gaming w Let's discuss: Visual Novels

Doki Doki Literature Club is the GOAT. Can any VN gamers recommend something similar? Every other VN game I’ve tried had me wishing it was just a book and quitting before the end.

Coelacanth,
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I haven’t played it (yet, it’s in my extensive backlog) and I don’t think it’s exactly the same, but have you checked out Slay the Princess?

IGuessThisIsForNSFW,

It’s definitely not exactly DDLC, but it’s so good and unique I put it in the same ‘greatest VNs of all time’ category. Slay the Princess is a masterpiece, and I’d urge you to bump it up on your backlog!

knokelmaat,

Not necessarily a VN, but you might like Pony Island if you liked Doki Doki.

Digital: A Love Story is also an experience that was really powerful for me.

IGuessThisIsForNSFW,

Pony island was awesome!

DoucheBagMcSwag,

DDLC mods are pretty good too.

Blue skies is the best one IMO

pipariturbiini,

I haven’t gotten started on it yet, but “You and Me and Her” seems to be a common recommendation for fans of DDLC.

OrangeEnot, do gaming w Let's discuss: Visual Novels

I’m a huge fan of otome visual novels, but I don’t think it’s something that many here would appreciate lol, so I’d rather talk about a different subgenre that I like, Danganronpa-esque VNs. Basically, these are crime novels involving a quickly shrinking group of characters with interactive elements. For me the entertaining part is that actually thinking about cases matters to progress the story. I love to guess “whodunit” based on clues and my own intuition.

Of these, there are 3 Danganronpa games (there’s a spin-off, but it has a vastly different gameplay). These are great to check out VNs in general if you don’t know if that’s your thing. They are very well-made, although their aesthetics may not be for everyone. The second one is my favourite, mainly because of its catchy tunes.

Zero Escape games - also a staple of this subgenre. They are half VN, half puzzle games. It’s a great sci-fi story involving time shenanigans, you’ll probably like it if you enjoyed Steins;Gate.

Kimi ga Shine - I really, really love this game! It’s a Japanese indie game made by one person, Nankidai. It’s available for free and also has a Steam version. It’s not complete yet, but it’s absolutely worth it to check out the content that already exists. What makes it stand out is that your choices have a great impact on the following story. An atmospheric, psychological game that feels very authentic. It has plenty of interaction, it’s not long and it’s fun to replay to make other choices.

I also love Ryukishi07’s VNs, “When They Cry” series. The art is admittedly ugly, but the stories are very intricate and convoluted in the best sense of the word.

e0qdk,
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I’m a huge fan of otome visual novels, but I don’t think it’s something that many here would appreciate lol

FYI: !otomegames

OrangeEnot,

Thanks, but it’s pretty dead at the moment.

e0qdk,
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Best way to fix that is to join in and post something!

Otome isn’t my personal interest (my sexuality goes the other way), so I don’t have much to say myself, but I’ve seen Elevator7009 trying to build a community first on kbin.social (before that site died) and then on kbin.run (before it died) and now there and I’d like to see her efforts succeed.

If you’re not interested, feel free to ignore it, but if you’d like a place on Lemmy for discussion, there are at least a few people there who’ve been trying their damnedest to get something going.

OrangeEnot,

Admittedly, I’m too lazy and not that much online to help build a community. But thanks for spreading the word about this place anyway!

Anderenortsfalsch,

I also love Ryukishi07’s VNs, “When They Cry” series. The art is admittedly ugly, but the stories are very intricate and convoluted in the best sense of the word.

The first of the “When They Cry” series are the only VNs I have ever played clicked through and it was surprisingly good, even for someone like me who isn’t into anime and kept me hooked through all the episodes. I highly recommend it.

kbal, do gaming w they're a powerful tool
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Depends on the argument I guess. Don't bring a sweet roll to the kind where you need a war axe.

xkbx, do gaming w the secret recipe

I can’t wait to find out that Marika learned the ability to transform gender from Cap’n Crunch in the FromSoft x Quaker collab

Paradachshund, do gaming w Let's discuss: Monkey Island

I’ve only ever played 3 and I really liked it when I did. Sad that one doesn’t get talked about much cause the art style is my favorite of the whole series I think.

It definitely had its fair share of batshit insane puzzles, but overall it’s a great game.

knokelmaat, do gaming w Let's discuss: Monkey Island

I have the remake (The Secret of Monkey Island: Special Edition) in my Steam backlog. I’ve been meaning to play it for a while, but it seems like a game that will require my full focus to not forget the story / puzzles. Once some of the games I’m currently playing are finished, I might give it a go. Also seems like a fun game to play during the winter times, so maybe I’ll get around to it in a few months.

I absolutely love this retrospective video about the series by youtuber Ahoy: RetroAhoy: The Secret of Monkey Island. I highly recommend it!

a1studmuffin, do gaming w Let's discuss: 8-bit Era Games
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What I love most about 8-bit era games are how small they were storage-wise. Most of the ROMs are tens of kilobytes for the entire game. Developers were severely constrained by the hardware limits which led to some creative decisions, eg. the bushes and clouds in Super Mario Bros are the same sprite just drawn in different colors. All code was written in pure assembly for efficiency and size.

To put it into perspective, AAA games today are one million times bigger.

Phen, do gaming w Let's discuss: 8-bit Era Games

My favorite 8 bit game was The Little Samson. So few people know about it but it was an incredible game for that time.

littlecolt,

It came out in 1992, at the end of the NES lifecycle. The SNES was already out and many people were only interested in games on that platform. This is why end of life games like Little Samson did not sell as well as they should have, and consequently, only had one small production run. That, in turn, is why these games are among the most expensive and sought after by collectors. There are just way less of them out there! I would love to have a Little Samson cartridge, but I don’t have $3000 to spend on a Nintendo game lol

knokelmaat, do gaming w Let's discuss: 8-bit Era Games

I personally have almost zero experience with this generation, though I realize it’s historic value. So many great game franchise originated here: Super Mario, Metroid, Final Fantasy, Castlevania, Zelda, Metal Gear, Mega Man, Mother…

I’ll give a shout-out to Mike Tyson’s Punch-Out!!, which I got to know by watching a YouTube video on the world record history for this game. I then played some of it myself on my Switch and was actually quite impressed with the almost puzzle like gameplay!

I also played Super Mario Bros. While I respect it for being the first, I thought it was quite ridiculous at times (the way to progress in the final world was so stupid).

Still have to sink my teeth in the others!

cupcakezealot, do gaming w Let's discuss: Animal Crossing
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the bad thing? it came out a month before ff7 remake so i didn’t get to fully experience it

the good thing? everything else plus i love catching butterflies :)

the best thing? animal crossing literally kept me going while recovering from surgery :)

algorithmae, do gaming w Let's discuss: Age of Empires

Definitely one of my favorite series as a kid! I used to play it more as a city builder to be honest. AOE3 is still gorgeous, and apparently a Age of Mythology remake is about to come out

TachyonTele, do gaming w Let's discuss: Super Mario

I’m a 2D Mario guy. Everything 8 and 16 bit is awesome, except the crying baby island simulator one.

64 was of course amazing. Sunshine I like only because they tried something different. I never finished it though.

Imma get some hate for this: Galaxy and Odyssey aren’t that good. I did like Galaxy 2 a little though. I did finish Odyssey but man it has to be one of the most gimmick driven games in the series. Crap ton of one use only power ups.

New Super on Wii, and especially newER on Wii are a lot of fun (which is cheating but whatever lol). The WiiU game though? Oof huge fail.

The catsuite 3D land game is interesting to me. It has a ton of really great ideas, and lots of fun sections. But it falls flat overall somehow. I can’t put my finger on it. Good memories with it though.

Honorable mention: Yoshi Story on the 64. That game was great.

Edit. Wonder has been out for awhile. Still haven’t played it. I actually completely forgot about it.

You_are_dust,

Super Mario World 2 is a really amazing game in both the mechanics and graphics. The game did some awesome stuff with both. It really set the way for Yoshi being a main character instead of a side character as well. Don’t sleep on it because the baby crying is annoying.

SnotFlickerman,
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crying baby island simulator

I understand the hate but that game was so damn good, if you could ignore the baby cries.

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