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v4ld1z, (edited ) do games w 11 years after launch, 49M people still use their PS4s, matching the PS5

If any of you guys have a PS4 lying around gathering dust, consider jailbreaking it. Depending on the firmware, it is pretty easy to do and opens up a lot of possibilities. Surely better than being neglected :)

Edit: Firmwares up to 11.00 are jailbreakable as of recently. 11.00 is from around late 2022, so if you have a console that hasn’t been in use since then, there’s a good chance you can jailbreak it. Base model, Slim, or Pro - doesn’t matter

dependencyinjection,

Best uses of a jailbroken one?

PotatoKat,

Bloodborne 60fps

v4ld1z,

Sadly, only around 40ish fps on a base model but very cool nonetheless. The framerate and semi-smoothness kinda puts it in an uncanny valley territory for me since it looks smoother but also not smoother at the same time coming from PS5 performance. Lies of P runs a lot better in comparison even though it’s graphically more demanding, I assume

v4ld1z,

Well, obviously piracy if you’re into that. Apart from that, using cheats for games, dumping your physical games and having a permanent copy you can use without the CD and an active license (probably possible with a digital game too I assume? not sure), applying patches like a 60fps patch for Bloodborne, emulation of PS1, PS2, PSP and a bunch of other consoles etc etc.

Running Linux if you’re that kind of person :P

dependencyinjection,

Piracy is interesting. Are the HDD replaceable. Could you add a NAS.

v4ld1z,

The HDD is replacable and afaik, you can insert an SSD too. Not sure about the sizes, but an internet search should point you the right direction.

Not familiar with NAS. Isn’t that some kind of server?

dependencyinjection,

Thanks ill Google it.

NAS is Network Attached Storage. Typically a rack of drives connected to the network.

ClockworkOtter,

What kind of possibilities?

v4ld1z,

Well, obviously piracy if you’re into that. Apart from that, using cheats for games, dumping your physical games and having a permanent copy you can use without the CD and an active license (probably possible with a digital game too I assume? not sure), applying patches like a 60fps patch for Bloodborne, emulation of PS1, PS2, PSP and a bunch of other consoles etc etc.

Running Linux if you’re that kind of person :P

ClockworkOtter,

Nothing too surprising, but nice nonetheless. Cool

samus12345, (edited )
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

It requires an old-as-hell 9.0 firmware or below, right?

v4ld1z,

Actually not anymore. There’s been a recent breakthrough that led to a new exploit up to 11.00 being possible now. 11.00 is from, like, late 2022 I think? Obviously not an option if your PS4 has been in regular use recently, but I lucked out and got an 11.00 console from a friend of mine who hadn’t been using the PS4 for a while.

If you’re on a newer firmware, there is no way of reverting back to 11.00, unfortunately, unless you’re up for some soldering.

tonyn, do games w 11 years after launch, 49M people still use their PS4s, matching the PS5

I use both. I have the PS5 upstairs, and the PS4 down in the family room. I can remote play the PS5 from downstairs, which is nice. And the PS Portal is nice when I’m taking a sh…

SomeGuy69, do games w 11 years after launch, 49M people still use their PS4s, matching the PS5
@SomeGuy69@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t support a company that decided to increase price instead of reducing it. Also PS games are expensive. Then there was also non available and you had to put yourself on a year long waiting list, when at then end I said “nah, I don’t need it”. It’s Sony’s own fault I don’t have a PS5 yet.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

To be fair on the price increase thing, this is the first time in the history of video games that the cost to produce the hardware went up over time.

lud,

And inflation is insane nowadays.

Personally I’m gonna stick with my desktop and Deck

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Well, it was insane in the middle there. Maybe it’s worse where you are, but in the US, it’s back almost to where it’s supposed to be.

lud,

Maybe but that doesn’t mean that the value of currency has returned to where it was. Unless there has been some deflation that I’m not awake of.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

No, there hasn’t been, but there is a distinction between currently experiencing high inflation and previously experiencing high inflation in the middle of a hardware product’s life cycle.

Dariusmiles2123,

Yeah and don’t forget that even with the inflated price, a ps5 is cheap compared to a pc as powerful.

SomeGuy69,
@SomeGuy69@lemmy.world avatar

No it’s not. PlayStation costs money if you want to go online, PC not. PlayStation games are a lot more expensive than on PC and you lose access to your gamed with every new generation unless you want to store your old console. Also generally PC sales are much deeper then on the controlled PlayStation store. To believe your console is cheaper is really not true.

Dariusmiles2123,

On PlayStation you can still buy second hand games because of the disc drive. I don’t know if PC still have a blu-ray drive anymore.

You can still get a lot of new games on ps4 which is a cheap console.

I guess that for some people having a gaming pc is cheaper, but for me having a ps5 and a weak pc is cheaper.

It depends on the user…

SomeGuy69,
@SomeGuy69@lemmy.world avatar

Why should the PC not have a blu-ray drive, it has all the freedom a console lacks. But I don’t remember the last time I needed one, because I can get just a few month old games for 5 bucks. So I didn’t even bother buying a drive. I buy games for 45 bucks while on console they cost 80 and more, on release day.

Yeah add the cost for the week PC on top, another reason why PC is cheaper, as you’ll likely need a PC regardless.

Not playing online would be the only reason why PS is cheaper and if you buy no games and only lend them from others. Price of PlayStation plus PS+ gets you a good PC if you use it for 5+ years, which most do.

Dariusmiles2123,

Maybe if you see it that way. But just thinking about how much you need to upgrade your PC or tinker with it for everything to work is too much for me.

I already don’t like the fact that on ps5 you have to choose between performance and fidelity modes, so imagine if I had to choose settings on a pc.

Also on consoles, you just know a game is gonna work perfectly, which is not always the case on pc.

But PC is better for some players and console are better for some others.

I sometimes consider jumping to PC gaming, but I see too many inconveniences for now.

Sam_Bass, do games w 11 years after launch, 49M people still use their PS4s, matching the PS5

Been horsing around in rdr2 for the last couple years here. No real need to up it

Pirky, do games w 11 years after launch, 49M people still use their PS4s, matching the PS5
@Pirky@lemmy.world avatar

Something to keep in mind: Official support for the PS2 was only 12 years. The PS4 is now at 11 years.
It will most likely have a longer officially supported life than the PS2.

Stovetop,

It’s definitely easier to have that degree of support when you’ve got a common architecture now. There has never been a console generation before this where you had literal years of overlap with games releasing on previous and current gen, because it didn’t require much extra work to maintain additional versions. They were already doing that with the “Pro” consoles before anyways.

Hell, PS4 players are still going to get the highly anticipated Shadow of the Erdtree DLC for Elden Ring in a few weeks.

scripthook, do games w 11 years after launch, 49M people still use their PS4s, matching the PS5
@scripthook@lemmy.world avatar

I just recently bought a PS4 for $150. So being able to play most modern games (with the exception of any new games 2025 or later) is a pretty good deal :)

timo_timboo_,

Yeah, I’m planning to get a PS4 or maybe PS4 Pro as well. It’s a great deal considering the large library of games, many of which can be bought physically for relatively cheap.

TwilightVulpine, do games w 11 years after launch, 49M people still use their PS4s, matching the PS5

There’s only a handful of games who really need the PS5, no surprise.

TechNerdWizard42, do games w 11 years after launch, 49M people still use their PS4s, matching the PS5

PS2 and PS3 get use. PS4 had nothing that interested me. PS5, same. Maybe when something good comes out ill get a PS17

JackbyDev, do games w 11 years after launch, 49M people still use their PS4s, matching the PS5

It feels weird to phrase it like this. I didn’t buy my PS4 11 years ago. I bought it 5 years ago.

billwashere, do games w 11 years after launch, 49M people still use their PS4s, matching the PS5

I have a PS5 and I still do because I can’t afford $500 for the PSVR2 upgrade and I like playing Beat Saber.

Dariusmiles2123, do games w 11 years after launch, 49M people still use their PS4s, matching the PS5

I really don’t regret buying my ps5, but I could totally still be on ps4 as I’m mostly playing games from the previous generation or available on it.

But at one point, there’ll be quite a few games which wouldn’t be able to run on ps4. The question is when.

I also feel like we don’t need to have more beautiful games than Last of Us 2, so I hope one day we’ll stop focusing so much on better looking games.

deafboy,
@deafboy@lemmy.world avatar

I also feel like we don’t need to have more beautiful games than Last of Us 2

Remember when FarCry was released, and people were compairing the ingame screenshots with real photos? We all thought “Man, this is it. It can’t get any better than this”.

EddoWagt,

I certainly did that with Gran Turismo 6 on the PS3

Dariusmiles2123,

Well I’m not against games becoming more impressive visually per se, but against the fact that because of this games are becoming way more expensive to produce and companies are now risk averse.

But yeah I might have said « this is it » in front of quite a few games 😅

candid,

GTA 6 is looking to be the first title that will need the newer hardware. That’s all I can think of off top.

Dariusmiles2123,

Yeah probably. Cyberpunk was another example even if it came way earlier in the lifecycle.

Zatore, do games w 11 years after launch, 49M people still use their PS4s, matching the PS5

I have a PC for all my games except one, Bloodborne. I have a PS4 and that’s the only thing I’ve used it for.

1984, do astronomy w Daily Telescope: The most distant galaxy found so far is a total surprise
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

I just see white dots.

paddirn,

That’s how alot of these discoveries seem like. Partly it’s just science reporting hyping up anything that happens, but then for many of these astronomical discoveries, it’s just a couple of pixels on a screen. And then somehow they can infer all sorts of things about it based on that. It’s just mind-blowing to think of all the data they can get from that about stars that are millions of light years away.

1984, (edited )
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

I would like to understand how they infer these things without becoming a science major. Is it just math equations based on what they think is the distance to the planet and then more math based on what they think the atmosphere is, and so on? Because they can’t actually see the planet.

XeroxCool,

I can’t explain this one, but I’d like to offer some other identifiers used. When searching for likely planets, they observe stars for wobble in their position. Large planets like jupiter and Saturn have some hefty pull on our own star. The common orbital point between them, called the barycenter, is still inside the sun, but their great distance apart pulls that barycenter closer to the edge of the sun. Our sun has a pretty notable wobble as a result. That’s the kind of thing they look for elsewhere. If there’s no other star causing the wobble in a binary system, then it must be a planet pulling it.

By estimating the mass of the star by various observations of color, brightness, and brightness variation, they can do some “easy” algebra to calculate the size of the affecting planet. From there, they can scan for radiation frequencies in the darkness where they think a planet is sitting. Water has a frequency, hydrogen has a frequency, oxygen has a frequency, helium, etc. By stuffing objects close to home, we can extrapolate that info and apply it to further objects with some confidence. This is how organic compounds were discovered in Venus’ atmosphere.

A lot of it is based on what we have at home, meaning we’re largely looking for what we have and then identifying it as the same. There is uncertainty about some details, but that’s how it always goes with science. It’s always being updated. It’s takes a lot of creativity to imagine what else might be out there and to devise how to look for it. Black holes are a pretty notable example. Since they’re not observable directly, what do you look for? Well, you look for other things being eaten and hope the matter is hot enough to throw a lot of radiation. 80 years ago, they were just an idea. Now we have images of a few galactic-center black holes. Some have been observed free floating through space by distorting the apparent position of stars behind it. Do we absolutely know it was a black hole? No, but that’s what solid theories can identify it as given the darkness and huge mass required to cause that kind of effect. But, as a result, estimates for dark and cold objects vary greatly because they’re the hardest to observe. There’s talk of finding more “hot jupiters” than expected, but it’s totally valid that maybe wevre just missing the cold Jupiter’s because they’re hard to see.

We keep looking and we keep writing it down.

downpunxx, do astronomy w The Hubble Space Telescope has lost a majority of its gyroscopes

ground control to major tom, your circuits dead, there's something wrong, can you hear me major tom

XTL,

We can’t really say that we’re

Surprised

It’s a shame

There’s always something that gets compromised

alyqz, do astronomy w Mystery object waits nearly an hour between radio bursts

So maybe a binary system causing the signal to only periodically wobble into earth’s path wile missing for mist of it?

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