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ramenshaman, do nintendo w Nintendo has filed a patent for ‘smart fluid’ joysticks, perhaps to eliminate drift | VGC

Just use hall effect sensors like everybody else. You can buy hall effect joycon joysticks and 3rd party controllers comparable to the pro controllers that use hall effect joysticks as well. They don’t drift.

rmean, do nintendo w Nintendo has filed a patent for ‘smart fluid’ joysticks, perhaps to eliminate drift | VGC

This problem is already solved, but I guess Nintendo prefers some propietary solution.

slimerancher,
@slimerancher@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe because of all those “Patented” points. It’s possible Nintendo doesn’t want to be 100% dependent on them and want an in-house solution to their problem.

JonDorfman,

They probably don’t want to use that particular design anyway. I’ve run into a good number of headaches with those joysticks. Not bad enough for me to pull them back out, but certainly enough to be annoying.

NightOwl,

What type of problems?

JonDorfman,

I’ve encountered two noticeable issues while using these. The first is probably just shit tier QA, but the second could be that or a design flaw. I haven’t taken the time to tear one apart and reverse engineer it, so I can’t say for sure what the cause is. Anywho, about a third of my sticks will wig out and send complete garbage data when they are pushed to their maximum on one axis. Sometimes it is the X, sometimes it is the Y. Either way it makes the impossible to use and I actually did remove those and replace them. Of the remaining sticks a number of them will depress the under stick button if pushed all the way in one direction. It’s pretty easy to avoid this and it rarely matters so these ones I left alone and didn’t bother to count how many displayed the behavior.

NightOwl,

I was hoping hall effects could be the solution. Maybe best that can be hoped for is ones that can be popped out for easy replacement like the dualsense edge.

Wodge,
@Wodge@lemmy.world avatar

I have swapped out my Switch analogues with these, and they’re great, I also did it with my Ayn Odin, and the 2nd set had slightly stronger magnets, that caused some touch screen issues, so I swapped out my switch analogues with the odin ones. So I’m gonna guess that the next Nintendo console will be another portable, and they probably don’t want the issues of magnets near screens.

Epicurus0319, (edited ) do games w Roblox is coming to PlayStation next month

Half its developers are probably on the sex offenders’ registry and can’t go within 300ft of schools. And now they’ll get to exploit even the kids whose parents won’t get them a computer yet

YourAverageKirbyFan, do nintendo w Nintendo reportedly showed a demo of the ‘Switch 2’ console at Gamescom which included visuals comparable to the PS5 and Xbox Series X.

With DLSS 3.5 I see it

TheColonel, do games w Roblox is coming to PlayStation next month

GOOD NEWS, NOBODY!

Grass, do games w Roblox is coming to PlayStation next month

Roblox is a plague. It should be shut down and the operators put in a cell.

Jaeger86, do games w Roblox is coming to PlayStation next month

Let’s expand the whale userbase, and exploit more children

ShittyRedditWasBetter, do nintendo w Nintendo reportedly showed a demo of the ‘Switch 2’ console at Gamescom which included visuals comparable to the PS5 and Xbox Series X.

👌👍🤣

Anomalous_Llama, do nintendo w Nintendo reportedly showed a demo of the ‘Switch 2’ console at Gamescom which included visuals comparable to the PS5 and Xbox Series X.

My expectations for the switch successor are reasonable I think

Backwards compatible with the Switch

performance boost when docked (I’d be perfectly happy with solid 1080p 60fps)

Mobile performance of 720p 60fps (lower detail settings than docked)

And I dunno just get a modern fucking friend/online system or at the very least let me integrate discord lol

Seudo, do nintendo w Nintendo reportedly showed a demo of the ‘Switch 2’ console at Gamescom which included visuals comparable to the PS5 and Xbox Series X.

Can’t wait till graphics are better than reality!..

Carighan, do nintendo w Nintendo reportedly showed a demo of the ‘Switch 2’ console at Gamescom which included visuals comparable to the PS5 and Xbox Series X.
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Uh huh.

I mean sure, two outlets reporting it, but I’ll believe it when I see it. With the Switch Pro/2/U/360/Series N in particular, the leaks were always so outlandish and in the end turned out false, while we can clearly assume the overall news about a Switch successor being in development to be real, any specific piece of news I’d immediately discard and put into the “made up stuff”-folder for the time being.

fckreddit,

Remember when Switch was comparable to PS4?

ElBarto,
@ElBarto@sh.itjust.works avatar

Or when they told us that you’d be able to cross platform with xbox and you play streaming xbox games to get better graphics.

Mudface,

This report would make the switch more powerful than a steamdeck. I’ll believe it when I see it

echodot, do nintendo w Nintendo reportedly showed a demo of the ‘Switch 2’ console at Gamescom which included visuals comparable to the PS5 and Xbox Series X.

Nintendo never makes high power consoles that’s not really their area. So I’d be surprised if this is true.

And what does PS5 equivalent graphics even mean? We just talking screen resolution or are we saying it can push the same poly count. I’d be prepared to accept it might get 1080p maybe 4k on a good day, but that’ll only be on low poly assets.

Psythik, (edited )

Both the N64 and the GameCube were built and marketed with performance in mind (especially the N64). Maybe you’re just too young to remember the ads.

Sethayy,

Today’s consoles are pretty different than the n64 or GameCube tho

km3k,

yeah, Project Reality

Phen,

Apparently the ps5 comparison is because they ran the same tech demo that the ps5 did 2 years ago. But that doesn’t really mean anything. At this point Nintendo may still be working with a wide range of specs on prototypes before finalizing a decision about what the console will be.

Nioxic, do nintendo w Nintendo reportedly showed a demo of the ‘Switch 2’ console at Gamescom which included visuals comparable to the PS5 and Xbox Series X.

Compared to does not mean equal to… lol

ZoopZeZoop,

True, but it does suggest they are in the same league. Not saying it is, but able to be compared suggests that it may be as good in some aspects.

Patches,

I compared my wealth to Bill Gates and turns out he makes more money just existing for 1 minute than I will make in my entire life. But we are comparable.

kattenluik,

You are comparable, and what they said was not anywhere near over the top or outrageous.

Your disbelief in a product existing and making a joke out of what otherwise would be a proper conversation is honestly very sad.

legion,
@legion@lemmy.world avatar

And even if some prototype device is, that doesn’t mean the production device will be, once things like heat and power usage have to really be accounted for.

conciselyverbose,

It doesn't even matter a lot if it does have really good graphics capability. Nvidia is good at that (though whether they'd price that where Nintendo wants is questionable). The question is what Nvidia can give in a CPU, because the only ARM CPU out there that's actually interesting in terms of efficient per core performance is Apple.

eltimablo,

the only ARM CPU out there that's actually interesting in terms of efficient per core performance is Apple.

No it's not

conciselyverbose,

That is not a gaming capable chip. It is a server chip where the entire value proposition is the core count and connectivity.

Nvidia doesn't make anything and hasn't shown any capability to make anything that isn't a massive liability for gaming.

eltimablo,

There's no such thing as a "gaming chip" when it comes to CPUs. Are you trying to tell me that you can't plug a GPU into the PCIe slot of an Ampere Altra? Do you honestly believe that a game compiled for ARM magically won't run on a server chip due to some kind of hardware block that detects games and says "nope, not gonna run that?"

Also, Nvidia makes the processor in the Nintendo Switch, and I linked chips from two other manufacturers in my comment.

conciselyverbose, (edited )

There are performance traits you have to have to be even in the vicinity of functional for gaming, and they're the opposite of what you need for a server. Yes, I'm saying that if you put a gaming GPU into any of those chips, the performance would be fucking terrible. You need fast clocks and IPC with low latency, not lots of cores and high bandwidth. High "Performance per core" in terms of server parts does not mean that it can do anywhere close to the same work per core a consumer, gaming focused chip can do. The design parameters are completely different.

The processor in the Switch chip is the reason the Switch has such a limited AAA library. It's not mediocre. It's not serviceable. It's fucking terrible.

sebinspace,

Exactly. Oranges are comparable to apples, doesn’t mean they share much in common

Taringano,

Honestly the swtcih is so far off in performance that if the new switch performs like the ps4 it’s already a win.

circuitfarmer, do nintendo w Nintendo reportedly showed a demo of the ‘Switch 2’ console at Gamescom which included visuals comparable to the PS5 and Xbox Series X.
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

To use the PS5 as an example, it’s based on Zen 2 and RDNA 2, both of which are now deprecated. It would not be surprising for Nintendo to match them at this point in the cycle.

AProfessional,

Yes it is surprising, it’s a high TDP desktop x86 SoC vs a low TDP mobile ARM SoC. Not close.

circuitfarmer,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Did Nintendo announce that Switch 2 is ARM?

AProfessional,

I don’t know. It’s obviously arm. They partner with Nvidia, they want backward compat, and it’s a mobile device.

Natanael,

The Steam Deck uses the same architectures by the way, with different core counts and a few more differences in capabilities

Rockslide0482, do nintendo w Nintendo reportedly showed a demo of the ‘Switch 2’ console at Gamescom which included visuals comparable to the PS5 and Xbox Series X.

Maybe I’m in the minority (doubtful since the switch is super popular) but I don’t need the Switch2 to be better than current/next gen as far as hardware goes. It’s portability, flexibility and funativity are what sells the thing for me. I’ve got a PC if I want to play fancy pants AAA games. One day, I’ll probably have a Steam Deck. I like playing Zelda and Mario, etc. on my Switch like it’s a the Super-Mega-Gameboy that I dreamed about as a youth. I sometimes play it docked, but probably 80+% of my game time on it is in handheld mode.

If the Switch 2 was basically a PS5-esque console (non-mobile, regular console), I’m sure I’ll eventually pick one up to play Nintendo exclusives, but mostly that would just hasten my purchase of a Steam Deck.

OrnateLuna,

Even if it was portable but had so much performance I wouldn’t want it bc then the battery life would be bad.

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