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KoboldCoterie, do games w Unity: disappointed at how removal ToS has been framed. We removed it way before the pricing change was announced not because we didn't want people to see it.
@KoboldCoterie@pawb.social avatar

Just to echo what Marc said, we are so sorry for our earlier actions.

We are so sorry you took our earlier actions so poorly.

Genuinely disappointed at how our removal of the ToS has been framed across the internet.

Genuinely disappointed that our removal of the TOS was noticed and publicized across the internet.

This new Runtime Fee policy will only apply beginning with the next LTS version of Unity shipping in 2024 and beyond. And Marc’s response is true, you can stay on the terms applicable for the version of Unity you are using as long as you keep using that version.

This new Runtime Fee policy will only apply beginning with the next LTS version of Unity, whereafter we will do everything we can to invalidate prior versions of Unity, and force upgrades on users.

We do have a fireside chat ongoing with Marc where he will answer some Q’s live

We do have a fireside chat ongoing with Marc where he will answer whichever Qs live we find convenient to our narrative, and ignore any that are not.

Please forget about our attempted greed, so we can try again in a stealthier manner in the near future, at our earliest convenience.

echodot,

Marc’s response is true, you can stay on the terms applicable for the version of Unity you are using as long as you keep using that version.

Oh shit, our lawyers have just informed us (again, but this time I listened) that trying to change terms of service after they’ve already been agreed is actually not legal and could get us in trouble.

nanoUFO, do games w Unity: disappointed at how removal ToS has been framed. We removed it way before the pricing change was announced not because we didn't want people to see it.
@nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works avatar

The backpedaling is going full tilt

andyburke,
@andyburke@kbin.social avatar

I wasn't prepared for that. The views. Wow.

bjoern_tantau, do games w "Ubisoft may also request that Microsoft perform technical modifications,including to ensure that the Activision Games support emulators like Proton"
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

Damn, since when does Ubisoft care about Linux?

gaylord_fartmaster,

Since people bought steam decks.

conciselyverbose, do games w "Ubisoft may also request that Microsoft perform technical modifications,including to ensure that the Activision Games support emulators like Proton"

I don't think any of their stuff doesn't work now. Even stuff like Halo with anticheat has been allowed to work via proton already.

This doesn't provide any promise that you can use gamepass or windows store games on Linux, and it doesn't provide any promise that they don't use anticheat in a restrictive way on Linux machines. They can trivially provide a bypass in the cloud environment that doesn't get shipped to end users.

Hopefully they don't do that, but this doesn't really mean a lot to individuals buying their games.

Shiggles, do games w Tobias Sjögren (Payday 3): We are so sorry that the infrastructure didn’t hold up as expected, and although it’s impossible to prepare for every scenario – we should be able to do better....

The best argument against always online games. Makes no damn sense that even when I queue by myself, I’m stuck waiting for a lobby.

bobbytables, do games w "Ubisoft may also request that Microsoft perform technical modifications,including to ensure that the Activision Games support emulators like Proton"

Most of the time Ubisoft games don’t work on non-Windows OS, so bold of them to require that.

raptir,

They do not create native Linux builds, but for the most part they all work under Protein.

mordack550,

Some of Ubisoft games don’t work well on Windows, so…

Pheonixtail, do games w "Ubisoft may also request that Microsoft perform technical modifications,including to ensure that the Activision Games support emulators like Proton"

But proton isn’t an emulator? It’s an API converter

echo64,

It’s an api emulator.

moody,

It’s a translation layer. It doesn’t emulate anything.

echo64,

emulate

ĕm′yə-lāt″

transitive verb

To strive to equal or excel, especially through imitation.

To compete with successfully; approach or attain equality with.

To imitate the function of (another system), as by modifications to hardware or software that allow the imitating system to accept the same data, execute the same programs, and achieve the same results as the imitated system.

smeg,

I’m capable of computing logical operations, that doesn’t make me a computer

echo64,
smeg,

Touché

Nibodhika,

Yes, and I usually agree with you and think the whole WINE Is Not an Emulator acronym is a bit too much because a windows Emulator is the easiest way to explain Wine… That being said emulators have a technical definition, and Wine does not fit it because it doesn’t emulate hardware nor does it translate binaries. Linux is perfectly capable of understanding windows binaries and vice-versa, because they both run on the same platform the binaries are the same, which is to say a specific sequence of bits that instructs the processor to do something is the same for both Windows and Linux binaries. The reason you can’t run windows binaries on Linux (again, or vice-versa) is because they make calls to external libraries that are not available, be it the windows API or the Linux Kernel API. So if you write a library that implements the windows API using Linux APIs you suddenly are able to run windows binaries on Linux, and that’s all that wine does.

dudewitbow,

Its a compatibility layer, which is not usually considered emulation.

ipha,

Wine is Not an Emulator.

It’s right in the upstream name.

HKayn, do games w "Ubisoft may also request that Microsoft perform technical modifications,including to ensure that the Activision Games support emulators like Proton"
@HKayn@dormi.zone avatar

What’s the context? What does Ubisoft have to do with Microsoft-Activision?

AFLYINTOASTER,

Microsoft-Activision sold streaming rights for their games to Ubisoft as a concession to avoid being labeled a monopoly so the merger could go through.

HKayn,
@HKayn@dormi.zone avatar

I see, thanks!

ElBarto, (edited ) do games w Terraria developer bashes Unity, donates $200k to open source alternatives
@ElBarto@sh.itjust.works avatar

I love the part where they’re like " we don’t even use unity except for some random assets", just a nice fuck you cherry on top.

egeres, do games w Terraria developer bashes Unity, donates $200k to open source alternatives
@egeres@lemmy.world avatar

This reminds me of a time when the blender fund was opened and at some point a bunch of companies jumped to donate money (steam, epic, google, AMD…) this was way back when 2.8 was getting in shape. Years later we saw the fruits of that labor with the 3.x series bringing nice improvements and refactors that were done over the course of many months and years

We probably won’t see a huge push in godot’s quality in what’s left of this year, but maybe in 2024 and later

rockerface,

Yeah, right now it’s more about sending a message and oh boi did they send one

CreeperODeath, do games w Terraria developer bashes Unity, donates $200k to open source alternatives

Huge W for godot

FrostKing, do games w Terraria developer bashes Unity, donates $200k to open source alternatives

Re-Logic have always been my favorite group of devs in the industry. This is yet another item to add to my long list of reasons for that.

Putting their money where their mouth is.

CaptKoala,

I just bought my 6th copy of Terraria, glad the money was well spent.

Zink, do games w Terraria developer bashes Unity, donates $200k to open source alternatives

No wonder Terraria is so awesome, coming from people that are so awesome.

LunchEnjoyer, do games w Terraria developer bashes Unity, donates $200k to open source alternatives
@LunchEnjoyer@lemmy.world avatar

Hell yeah, love to see it!

ipkpjersi, (edited ) do games w Terraria developer bashes Unity, donates $200k to open source alternatives

What an incredibly kind move by the Terraria developers. This is part of why Terraria is awesome!

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