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InEnduringGrowStrong, do games w Innersloth (Among Us devs) post statement about new unity changes
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We use Unity to make our games.

This would harm not only us, but fellow game studios of all budgets and sizes. If this goes through, we’d delay content and features our players actually want to port our game elsewhere (as others are also considering). But many developers won’t have the time or means to do the same.

Stop it. Wtf?

HEY GAMERS!

Today, Unity (the engine we use to make our games) announced that they’ll soon be taking a fee from developers for every copy of the game installed over a certain threshold - regardless of how that copy was obtained.

Guess who has a somewhat highly anticipated game coming to Xbox Game Pass in 2024? That’s right, it’s us and a lot of other developers.

That means Another Crab’s Treasure will be free to install for the 25 million Game Pass subscribers. If a fraction of those users download our game, Unity could take a fee that puts an enormous dent in our income and threatens the sustainability of our business.

And that’s before we even think about sales on other platforms, or pirated installs of our game, or even multiple installs by the same user!!!

This decision puts us and countless other studios in a position where we might not be able to justify using Unity for our future titles. If these changes aren’t rolled back, we’ll be heavily considering abandoning our wealth of Unity expertise we’ve accumulated over the years and starting from scratch in a new engine. Which is really something we’d rather not do.

On behalf of the dev community, we’re calling on Unity to reverse the latest in a string of shortsighted decisions that seem to prioritize shareholders over their product’s actual users.

I fucking hate it here.

-Aggro Crab

(Small picture of crab holding a knife)

InEnduringGrowStrong, do games w Innersloth (Among Us devs) post statement about new unity changes
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bestturtleboy, do games w Resident Evil Village and the Resident Evil 4 remake are coming to the iPhone 15 Pro. Apple's iPhone 15 Pro has an A17 Pro chip that enables hardware-based ray tracing for games.

Is it getting 30 or 60hz gameplay?

commissar_whiskers, do games w Full source code of Far Cry 1 just dropped on the Internet Archive

I loved Far Cry when it came out. I tried reinstalling it a few years later but the disk didn’t work anymore.

And I just looked and found it in my steam library. I know what the next game I’m going to install and not finish is.

nanoUFO,
@nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works avatar

I finished it a while back and it’s fun, I would say it has more soul than far cry 2 which felt incomplete. The final stage of the game gets kinda hard tho.

commissar_whiskers,

Come to think of it I’m not sure I actually finished it. I know I got past the (avoiding spoilers) regular type enemies, but not to the actual end.

Blizzard, do games w Phil Spencer: Starfield exceeded 1 million concurrent players across all platforms today. Thanks to all the players who helped us reach this great milestone and congrats to the Bethesda Studios

Across all 2 platforms?

lustyargonian,

I think MSFT Store on PC, Xbox Store, Steam, xCloud and GamePass.

weedwhacking, do nintendo w Video message from Shigeru Miyamoto and Charles Martinet regarding the change of Mario’s voice actor, announced on 21/08.

Here’s a link to YouTube instead :)

youtube.com/watch?v=LbcE4-b0PKs&si=lKaqC0o9Id…

CatZoomies,
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Here’s the alternative Piped link: piped.video/watch?v=LbcE4-b0PKs

Piped is the privacy-respecting front-end for YouTube, without predatory user tracking and advertisements.

hydrashok, do nintendo w Video message from Shigeru Miyamoto and Charles Martinet regarding the change of Mario’s voice actor, announced on 21/08.

Had to happen sometime. Sad to see it come, but Charles has had a hell of a run. He will continue to be the template for Mario, Luigi, Wario, and Waluigi for the rest of the characters’ existence.

Very much, in my mind, like any new Looney Tunes voice actors are just trying to sound like Mel Blanc.

It’ll be great to hear Charles’ influence for years to come, even if he’s not doing (or doing less of) the performances anymore.

kadu,
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He basically invented Luigi’s personality on the fly.

Luigi was just green Mario, right until they put Martinet with a live 3D face animation rig at an event and “talk to Luigi!” was one of the options.

He then came up with Luigi as the slightly cowardly, not as confident, but good spirited and kind, companion to Mario. The voice tone, the mannerisms, he just made it all up and Nintendo loved it.

Without that, no Luigi’s Mansion and the green Mario dude would still have no personality.

Wooster,
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Nah. Luigi had a personality prior to the 3D era. His modern portrayal is, at bare minimum, inspired by the Super Mario Adventure comics, where he was portrayed as the more cowardly of the two brothers. And that’s not even looking into things like the Super Show, which created Toad’s modern voice or the CYOA novels.

He put a voice to that persona, but he didn’t create it whole cloth.

kadu,
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Martinet himself explains how he made up the “cowardly” trait because at first, when people asked about Luigi, his way of dealing with it was replying that “my brother is too shy! Too scared! He can’t show up”.

AdmiralShat, do games w Phil Spencer: Starfield exceeded 1 million concurrent players across all platforms today. Thanks to all the players who helped us reach this great milestone and congrats to the Bethesda Studios

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  • lemmyvore,

    Probably not, I doubt cracked copies play online.

    warmaster, do games w Rockstar is selling Cracked Game Copies on Steam

    You wouldn’t sell a downloaded car ™

    donuts, do games w Rockstar is selling Cracked Game Copies on Steam
    @donuts@kbin.social avatar

    That's pretty crazy. One would think it's not hard to put your own game on Steam.

    nanoUFO, (edited )
    @nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works avatar

    GOG does this too they will sell you cracked games and the money goes to whoever currently owns the IP, there is almost no point giving money to GOG at that point since they don’t do anything and the IP holder didn’t do anything either. Actually GOG might steal mods and claim they made them like with system shock.

    AdmiralShat,

    Source on this?

    nanoUFO,
    @nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works avatar

    forum.quartertothree.com/t/…/6

    It was system shock 2 and not one but still the same thing.

    www.gog.com/forum/general_archive/…/page1

    AdmiralShat,

    Just a point against the second thread you linked, Gog selling cracked games, according to the thread you linked, allows them to be run without a disc on modern hardware

    The crack also means it’s not altering the source code, according to the user’s in that thread

    As for the first thread, yeah that’s pretty shitty.

    woelkchen,
    @woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

    How else would copy protection get removed if the original source code was lost?

    If mods are licensed in a way redistribution is allowed, it’s not stealing either.

    I don’t get your outrage.

    RootBeerGuy,
    @RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    I don’t think this is about removing copy protection to sell it.

    It is more about that the crack they are now selling officially has been seen as illegal by the publisher/game developer itself. People have worked on this for no monetary compensation and therefore provided free labour to remove DRM. Now the publisher is banking on this free work, pretty much legitimising the crack. But none of the money actually goes to anyone who cracked the game, since that was still illegal.

    If the publisher had just removed DRM themselves and sold those copies, no one would be outraged. But they exploit the work of people they keep condeming for cracking their games.

    woelkchen,
    @woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

    Well, if someone spray painted the door of my car without my permission, it’s vandalism but still my car. If it later turns out that it was done by Banxie and that “vandalism” is worth millions, I can still sell my car however I like and owe Banxie nothing.

    Btw, freeware is a thing. Did those cracks ever get released without the permission to freely distribute? If not, those cracks may be used by the rights holder however they like. That’s not the problem. Releasing broken shit is the problem.

    RootBeerGuy, (edited )
    @RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    Seriously… a car analogy. Wow. And a pretty bad one at that.

    But I will help you fix that analogy for free, since I feel nice today. A crack for DRM isn’t like adding artwork to a car to make it worth more.

    If anything this is about a car that has certain defects that make it work less well than it should. E.g. you cannot switch into gear 5. It runs slower than it could. So people go and fix that, for free. Now the automobile maker takes that free fix and sells all new cars with it. Is that ok? There, still a crap analogy but arguably better than yours.

    You ask if the cracks are released with permission to freely distribute? Actually no, they are not. Because they are marked illegal by the law. They should not be distributed since thats against the law. But its of course convenient for the publisher to use that work and distribute themselves. They are technically breaking the law themselves since they are applying illegal cracks to their own software. So thats ok then?

    woelkchen,
    @woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

    So people go and fix that, for free. Now the automobile maker takes that free fix and sells all new cars with it. Is that ok? There, still a crap analogy but arguably better than yours.

    OK, cool. Too bad you forgot that in modern jurisdiction buying a game is merely like leasing a car. So yeah, if a workshop fixes the car for free the actual owner of the car can make use of those fixes however he likes.

    Maybe target your energy at the actual shitty thing Rockstar does: Selling broken games. The means how they removed Securom is irrelevant. The fact that the games are broken garbage is not.

    nanoUFO, (edited )
    @nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works avatar

    This is outrage because I posted about another company doing the same thing as the in post?

    SSUPII,

    It’s not GOG that does that. A lot of developers that publish there having lost the source code or the tools and knowledge to build it upload cracked or patched releases themselves. And it’s not a GOG thing either, as for example Sam & Max: Hit the Road is just the cracked DOS game bundled inside a ScummVM runner on both Steam and GOG releases.

    iegod,

    This honestly sounds like the perfect distribution model. You get the game, IP holder gets paid, no one is bothered by DRM. If you don’t want to pay because you don’t want to pay, well that’s up to you.

    Like I’m kind of confused by the premise of your argument and excuse me if I got it wrong but certainly you’re not saying if you pay, it better have some kind of DRM?

    nanoUFO, (edited )
    @nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Look if i’m going to buy torrented and cracked files owned by whatever billion dollar company has vacuumed up a 1000 ip’s in a go I at least want to know 0 effort has been put into packaging the game and that all I’m doing is buying a pirated version of the game with other peoples stuff resold without credit or reimbursement. Like cracks and mods they package into these releases.

    baatliwala,

    Don’t GOG actually patch the old games and add fixes to make it work on modern systems?

    nanoUFO,
    @nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Well with system shock 2 they just downloaded mods and fixes and added it to the game and then claimed they worked on them. Given that one would think that’s basically all they do.

    mojo, do games w Rockstar is selling Cracked Game Copies on Steam

    Stealing from pirates?

    all-knight-party, do games w Rockstar is selling Cracked Game Copies on Steam
    @all-knight-party@kbin.cafe avatar

    I don't quite understand, provided that's true... Why would they do that?

    DoucheBagMcSwag,

    Low effort so they don’t need to bypass the ancient DRM and still sell it

    Nighed,
    @Nighed@sffa.community avatar

    Either lost the source code, or didn’t have the expertise/time to fix it properly.

    sugar_in_your_tea, (edited )

    I’m pretty sure they just don’t care. This was easy and made money.

    vlad76,
    @vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    Nintendo did the same thing. I don’t remember the exact details, but they took a pirated copy of NES Super Mario Bros and were reselling it on another platform. As much as a dislike Nintendo and Take-Two/Rockstar for their business practices I can understand that it’s probably easier to just take back “stolen” and modified code and use it for themselves instead of repeating the process of getting around old copyright BS in order to resell the game.

    It’s scummy, but I get it.

    woelkchen,
    @woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

    No, Nintendo didn’t.

    Tldr: Nintendo outsourced the work for dumping NES ROMs and developing a NES emulator for GameCube and that contractor added the standard headers to dumps they made from original cartridges provided by Nintendo. Someone saw the headers and drew conclusions.

    Long read: resetera.com/…/tomohiro-kawase-mightve-been-hired…

    RS888,

    The video linked in the Twitter thread explains it near the end but I'll summarize.

    Rockstar used securom for the original disc release
    Razor (an infamous piracy group) cracked the game shortly after release but only for Windows XP (Vista didn't exist yet)
    Rockstar released the game on Steam "without securom" but in reality is just using Razor's crack
    Fans eventually (like a decade later) realize there's Razor signatures in the executable on Steam
    Rockstar pushes an update with a new executable, however this wasn't properly tested and is broken due to how the anti-piracy acts.

    The game launches but similar to Arkham Asylum's "broken" grappling hook or Serious Sam's invincible scorpion enemies it messes with the player and doesn't function correctly on purpose.

    Really interesting video and once again brings up the ethics of stealing from pirates' works as other comments have mentioned.

    woelkchen,
    @woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

    The ethics are about releasing broken games and then not fixing them while still taking money.

    csolisr, do games w Final Fantasy XVI producer announces PC version is in development, along with 2 paid DLCs

    I’ve been avoiding spoilers for FF XVI precisely waiting for this announcement. Hopefully they don’t pull the same shenanigans as last time and release it on Epic Games only.

    Boiglenoight,

    I was merely procrastinating but yeah, now with it coming to PC I’m going to be dodging spoilers like bullets in the Matrix.

    Eh_I, do games w Rockstar is selling Cracked Game Copies on Steam
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    Can I upload cracked rockstar games to steam? $100 right?

    Sanctus, do games w Rockstar is selling Cracked Game Copies on Steam
    @Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m pretty sure the crack doesn’t even work either.

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