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dustyData, do games w Star Citizen Just Had its Biggest Crowdfunding Day Ever With $3.5 Million in 24 Hours

I want shorter games with worse graphics made by people who are paid more to work less and I’m not kidding.

This thing is a scam, and you’re all being taken for chumps. The only worse fraud than SC is buying Fatalities on Mortal Kombat.

TIMMAY,

that’s a fucking thing?!

dustyData,

It’s now a season bundle. But it was $10 per fatality x 3. One for Halloween, one for Thanksgiving, and one for Christmas. That was a total of $30 for a whole minute of cut-scenes. They successfully Overton it, apologized and now it’s $10 for the three scenes. But yeah, now buying Fatalities is a thing, look forward for your Easter Fatality edition and an extra Bunny skin version for only $4.99.

echo64,

There is this tiny company called Nihon Falcom. They make this game series called Trails that I adore. they have like three programmers work on each entry.

In the time since Star Citizen was announced they have released:

  • The Legend of Nayuta: Boundless Trails 2012
  • Ys: Memories of Celceta 2012
  • The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel 2013
  • The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel II 2014
  • Tokyo Xanadu 2015
  • Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana 2016
  • The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III
  • The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel IV
  • Ys IX: Monstrum Nox 2019
  • The Legend of Heroes: Trails into Reverie
  • The Legend of Heroes: Trails Through Daybreak
  • The Legend of Heroes: Trails Through Daybreak II
  • Ys X: Nordics

as well as a bunch of ports of older games to modern platforms and localizing them to the west. All of these are worth playing and some of these were GOTY material for me.

Its good to quantify how much time has passed, and how much you can get done with a smaller budget and focused scope.

zero_spelled_with_an_ecks,

Trails into Reverie is not worth playing. Cold Steel was iffy. Trails is a shadow of its former self.

whereBeWaldo,

Call me shallow but I enjoy the fanservice ( not the naughty type, I mean when characters from the previous entries come back/get mentioned) so I enjoyed them thoroughly, Kuro 1 and 2 are also great, they bring a lot of new ideas to the table.

rigatti,
@rigatti@lemmy.world avatar

Do you play indie games? They seem to be exactly what you’re describing.

dustyData,

I play mostly smaller games, and am very patient with my gaming habits. Haven’t bought a AAA game in a very long while. Still follow these kind of news because they trend set the whole industry and encroach everywhere with bad practice as big publishers represent the majority of the industry releases and also the grossest revenue.

verysoft,

People will buy fucking anything, it's hopeless.

Rokk,

I’m all for having both. I personally prefer ‘AAA’ games over indie games but I think there’s just different flavours for different folks.

That said, SC is a mega scam at this point and I can’t believe people are still continuing to fund it to this level.

setsneedtofeed,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, Underrail is pretty good.

orrk,

imagine a bigger game with great graphics and a whole ton of technical innovation, AND have people be paid well, that is for chumps

TIMMAY, (edited ) do games w Star Citizen Just Had its Biggest Crowdfunding Day Ever With $3.5 Million in 24 Hours

I dont have the energy to care about this game, just like I dont have the energy to care about George RR Martin or Patrick Rothfuss never finishing their products either.

PDFuego,
@PDFuego@lemmy.world avatar

Same. Until these things are physically in my hand I’ve got plenty of other stuff to get on with, what’s the point of wasting years chasing them. It’s the same with any marketing really, give me a title, pitch & release date, I’ll see you then.

deus,

Writers, no matter how good, are just regular people. I have much higher expectations and not as much patience towards a game studio with infinite money and no released games whatsoever in over a decade.

TIMMAY,

Yeah, that’s a good point, and I didnt mean to directly disparage them, only to say that at the decade point or so I just dont have the capacity to keep anticipating something entertaining. That was also my biggest reason for just not giving a shit about the avatar movie sequel. Kid me would have been all in, now I just dont care enough to spend the time money and effort on it

Lucidlethargy,

God damn fucking Patrick Rothfuss… What a beautiful story to likely never have an ending. Don’t read into it, anyone… Not unless he releases that last book.

DarkGamer, do games w Star Citizen Just Had its Biggest Crowdfunding Day Ever With $3.5 Million in 24 Hours
@DarkGamer@kbin.social avatar

Cause it's the game dev that never ends it just goes on and on my friends…

Kichae, do games w Star Citizen Just Had its Biggest Crowdfunding Day Ever With $3.5 Million in 24 Hours

I think I've reached the point where no one will be able to convince me that Star Citizen is not a money laundering front.

sebinspace,

I don’t know about a front, but when they have this kind of income, they have zero incentive to actually launch the damn thing, and every incentive to just keep dangling the carrot

dustyData,

In Spanish we say “música paga no suena”. Or “Paid music (service) won’t play”. As in, if you actually want the DJ, Mariachis, or band to stay the whole party, withhold payment until the end. If you pay upfront they will arrive late and leave early. They already have the money on the bag, and no legally binding responsibility to actually deliver any product. Even with this new round of crowdfunding, tomorrow they could just claim they already delivered what could be done with the money and disappear into a fiscal paradise. And not a single chump who backed up this decade long fraud would have any single recourse to fight back.

yesdogishere, do games w Star Citizen Just Had its Biggest Crowdfunding Day Ever With $3.5 Million in 24 Hours

it's a huge success story for Star Citizen. I htink they are delighting the dreams of people who want to travel and work in space, but know they can never afford to really do so. Bethesda's Starfield is a sort of attempt to do Star Citizen, but it's just not as gritty and realistic as Star Citizen.

Skua,

With the amount some folk have spent on Star Citizen I think they actually could afford to explore space in real life

Justas,
@Justas@sh.itjust.works avatar

I think India landed a probe on the Moon for less money than what was spent on SC.

Skua,

Holy shit, they did. Less than half of the money, even

Lucidlethargy,

Starfield is single player, so it’s not really in the same category. Star Citizen was meant to connect people, which is why the lack of launch sucks so hard. Nobody can ever convince me it’s playable without a permanent, persistent universe for this reason.

Meowoem,

It’s a really interesting one, it’s done much better than most people expected and seems to have a very strong community. It could evolve into something really interesting in the long-term, like it’s entirely possible that twenty years from now it’ll still be going strong with a healthy user base, it might even have the scope to really embed itself and still be popular in fifty years.

I never expected it to get to where it is and I never expected it to get to any of it’s previous milestones, now I’m starting to really wonder how far it could go

Khalic, do games w Star Citizen Just Had its Biggest Crowdfunding Day Ever With $3.5 Million in 24 Hours

Omfg this timeline sucks soooo bad

thorbot, (edited ) do games w Star Citizen Just Had its Biggest Crowdfunding Day Ever With $3.5 Million in 24 Hours

How the fuck are people still falling for this scam? Oh right, half of our country worships a braindead cheeto blob. edit: Damn so many trump simps in the thread. “omg everything politik” yeah welcome to fucking lemmy

crawley,

The people who are playing Star Citizen are not the same people who are voting for Trump…weird comparison to attempt.

avater,
@avater@lemmy.world avatar

not really. the essence is people are stupid and that’s the reason behind supporting trump or throwing money at star citizen

infinitepcg,

Why is it stupid to enjoy Star Citizen?

avater,
@avater@lemmy.world avatar

I wouldn’t call it stupid to enjoy whatever SC has to offer, but I would call it stupid to spend more than 60 bucks on the game at this point…

orrk,

it’s an interesting take to defend, I would argue that the people still calling it a scam are more trump supporter like, as they are a group held together by a need to attack things they disagree with, based on some nebulous understanding of the evils it entails

Summzashi,

Americans try not to make everything about us politics challenge (impossible)

criitz,

Everything IS about US politics 😛

Wodge,
@Wodge@lemmy.world avatar

“Scam” implies that they’re not delivering the product, and they are, as in you can actually go and play it. There is actually a fair bit to do. Not overly exciting non-stop heroics, but the game is trying to simulate what life in space would be like, and does a pretty good job of it so far.

Maalus,

Are they delivering the product? I was a kickstarter backer, and still don’t have the singleplayer campaign that was promised. How long ago was that?

Wodge,
@Wodge@lemmy.world avatar

Well I backed it before the kickstarter and have been playing the multiplayer on and off for a few years now.

Maalus,

Pretty sure I said “singleplayer” in response to you saying “they are delivering the product”. Which is false, since I can’t play it.

Wodge,
@Wodge@lemmy.world avatar

Well since it’s single player and multiplayer, yes it’s partially delivered. The kickstarter, and original crowd funding through their site, did not separate the 2 different versions, so you did, in fact, back the single player and multiplayer. It may not be the bit you wanted, but it is a part of the overall product that has been delivered.

Maalus,

I can’t play Squadron 42 like promised - ergo it wasn’t delivered. Stop being a fanboy when a fact is a fact. It’s an absolute truth, you can’t change it by weasiling around it.

Summzashi,

Lmao the copium. Your 400$ ship wasnt worth it.

Wodge,
@Wodge@lemmy.world avatar

lmao i paid $45 before the kickstarter and easily had my monies worth.

orrk,

look, generally I don’t do this but, really? that’s your take? that someone spent money on a hobby? I spent more money on injection molded miniatures for DnD, what about people who go to 3-star restaurants? a package of the cheapest Walmart slop also has calories, does it not?

Unironically didn’t we agree that Protestant anti-fun shit was idiotic when we drove them out to America?

Summzashi,

There’s a lot to unpack here lol. Your first sentence says it all. Use that for future reference for everyone’s sake please.

orrk,

ya, i normally don’t shame people for not being able to spend money, but you really set a new low

Summzashi,

Is that what you were doing? Hahaha

TheKracken, do games w Star Citizen Just Had its Biggest Crowdfunding Day Ever With $3.5 Million in 24 Hours

I finally tried this game and holy shit is it terrible. The UI is janky and unintuitive. The movement is slow and stiff or sonic on crack and nothing in-between. The frame rate is terrible even on a decent machine with appropriate settings. Just overall a bad experience. I don’t care if it’s still “In development” get your fundamentals right before you go adding more shit.

pancakes,
@pancakes@sh.itjust.works avatar

People think you can slap on an “in development” sticker to anything and absolve it of all criticism.

yiliu,

I mean, there’s not a lot of incentive for them to change the way they operate…

Lucidlethargy,

This is exactly why “new” phones suck so hard these days. Why do good things when doing nothing is so profitable?

setsneedtofeed, do games w Star Citizen Just Had its Biggest Crowdfunding Day Ever With $3.5 Million in 24 Hours
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

I’m so happy that I’m on the sidelines of all this. I think watching is significantly more enjoyable than being part of it.

Justas,
@Justas@sh.itjust.works avatar

The older I get, the more things this is true for.

Sabre363, do games w Star Citizen Just Had its Biggest Crowdfunding Day Ever With $3.5 Million in 24 Hours

What are they gonna do with that money, buy some new office paintings?

RGB3x3, do games w Star Citizen Just Had its Biggest Crowdfunding Day Ever With $3.5 Million in 24 Hours

Is that Mark Hamill?

Kemwer,

Yes. He’s joined by Gary Oldman, Gillian Anderson, Mark Strong, Andy Serkis, John Rhys-Davies, Ben Mendelssohn, Liam Cunningham, and many others in Squadron 42, the story-based spinoff to Star Citizen.

… that may one day actually get released…

orvorn,

Yes, he is a major character in the single player campaign along with Gary Oldman, Mark Strong, Gillian Anderson, and others who provided voice acting and facial performance capture.

N0body,

“Hi, I’m actor Mark Hammill. You might remember me from such unfinished games as Untitled Star Wars Game 3 and Untitled Star Wars Game 7.”

defuru, do games w Star Citizen Just Had its Biggest Crowdfunding Day Ever With $3.5 Million in 24 Hours

As a day 1 backer i would like to offer my sincerest apologies.

setsneedtofeed,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

Get ‘em, boys.

EdibleFriend,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

IMMA SHAVE HIS DOG

GenesisJones,

I gave them my 45$ at the beginning and said call me when it’s done.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

Do you have any nachos I can murder? Or at least beat up a little?

atocci, do games w Star Citizen Just Had its Biggest Crowdfunding Day Ever With $3.5 Million in 24 Hours

What exactly is this game trying to be?

Matty_r,
@Matty_r@programming.dev avatar

Everything.

setsneedtofeed,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

And this is why producers or project leads are not always the villains when they force designers to cut content in games.

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

Sometimes content gets cut because they don’t have time to finish it, look at Destiny. That wasn’t due to scope creep, that was lack of time and planning.

theterrasque,

Whatever they can get you to pay money for

Abnorc,

I really can’t see it either. This thread is almost proof that there is some kind of massive confusion. People are arguing about whether this is a pre alpha or an alpha, whether it’s Star Citizen in alpha or Squadron 42, an FPS game in the same universe. Their website doesn’t make it really obvious either. I don’t know how such a confusing product makes so much money.

Defaced, do games w Star Citizen Just Had its Biggest Crowdfunding Day Ever With $3.5 Million in 24 Hours

I literally can’t play this game, my PC has 16GB of RAM and it runs out of free memory after like 10 minutes and crashes to desktop. When your “fix” is to just buy more RAM or increase your page file size, then your game is a fucking scam. I understand new games require more powerful hardware, but this is Amazon lumberyard ffs.

wombatula,

new games

It’s a decade old lol.

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

It’s not even that new anymore. A 1080ti was tip of the spear graphics technology when this game first became “playable.”

LordKitsuna,

It’s actually not lumber yard anymore, it started from that but they’ve Rewritten most of it. And they literally show you the code and such during their like 2+hr devs videos. It’s never going to release but the technology is actually genuinely impressive.

Sadly 16GB just isn’t much anymore. Windows alone will happily eat 4, steam sometimes 2 for no reason (usually not but can happen when it’s web process leaks) games like icarus claim minimum recommendation is 24.

Which is absolutely insane and developers need to get their shit together but it’s just the way things are going.

randomaside, do games w Star Citizen Just Had its Biggest Crowdfunding Day Ever With $3.5 Million in 24 Hours
@randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Stop giving these scam artists money.

Alimentar,

I have no proof but I’m convinced it’s some sort of money laundering. Especially when they released the $30,000 DLC bundle to get everything

randomaside,
@randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I think you’re probably right.

Rogers,

Why would they have over 500 employees? There’s plenty of valid complaints but why would they have so many employees if it was truly intended has vaporware?

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