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DudeImMacGyver, do games w Ancient Chinese RPG The Bustling World is, in fact, all of the genres, from city builder to life sim
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Is it good though? I guess we’ll find out!

brsrklf, do games w Ancient Chinese RPG The Bustling World is, in fact, all of the genres, from city builder to life sim

That does sound ambitious. I hope they don’t end up biting off more than they can chew and never releasing anything, because this looks promising.

Novamdomum, do gaming w Ancient Chinese RPG The Bustling World is, in fact, all of the genres, from city builder to life sim
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I hung around their Discord for ages and the pace of development seemed glacial. It's not that I don't think it will ever come out but it's definitely going to be a while. Gave up following after a few months. Love the aesthetic though and I really hope this one doesn't fizzle out like other titles in my wish list (Road Diner Simulator, B-17 Squadron, Solarpunk, Kerbal Space Program 2 etc.)

DdCno1,

Apart from being slow, what are your impressions of the devs in terms of professionalism and communication?

Rozz, do gaming w Ancient Chinese RPG The Bustling World is, in fact, all of the genres, from city builder to life sim

It got me when there was gta with a horse and cart, and an assassins creed section

DdCno1, do gaming w Ancient Chinese RPG The Bustling World is, in fact, all of the genres, from city builder to life sim

Scope creep: The game. Trailers do look marvelous, but one has to question how realistic it is that all of these complex systems not only work well on their own, but also manage to form a coherent whole. This could become a trendsetting Indie darling - or more realistically end up as a highly flawed niche title that only manages to find a few dedicated fans that are willing to overlook its issues (if it ever releases).

The developers are entirely unknown - possibly unproven - and the publisher’s only successful games on Steam are an RPG (Tale of Immortal) with just over 50% positive reviews that doesn’t even work if you don’t have your system set to Chinese, an action tower defense game (Outpost: Infinity Siege) with a OpenCritic average of 58 and a 2.5D Cyberpunk RPG (ANNO: Mutationem) that is probably their highest-rated title with an OpenCritic average of 74 and 80% positive reviews.

Before I sound too negative, I hope this title succeeds. I would definitely play it a lot if it manages to deliver on even half of its promises. Art style, perspective and setting remind me of the last classic city builder Emperor: Rise of the Middle Kingdom, building mechanics are reminiscent of various Minecraft-adjacent titles and the multi-genre concept isn’t too dissimilar to The Guild series. All of this is very exciting, but this is exactly the kind of ambition, possibly overambition, that tends to kill studios.

Malgas,

Tale of Immortal […] doesn’t even work if you don’t have your system set to Chinese

I’ve played it (in English, on a US-English Windows install) and I don’t remember having to do anything like that.

DdCno1,

Thanks for the correction. I was going by Steam reviews.

What are your thoughts on the game?

Malgas,

I had fun with it. Can be a bit slow and grindy, as forming a build involves finding the right (randomly generated, periodically refreshed) techniques and studying them. And there’s a big power jump in each area so this process has to be repeated regularly.

I initially got into it when looking for something like Wandering Sword, but as a M&B- or Kenshi-style open world, which it’s not exactly that.

DdCno1,

Alright, thanks. Did you find any other game that manged to scratch this particular itch?

Malgas,

I haven’t.

The Matchless Kungfu certainly looks like Wuxia Kenshi, but I haven’t actually gotten around to trying it.

DdCno1,

Interesting title. It kind of reminds me a little of Overgrowth, but I’m sure you’ve heard of that one already.

Pxtl, do games w Gar-Type is a free pixelart shooter based on a cosmic horror meme about a lazy, ravenous housecat
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I’ve never heard “I’m sorry Jon” called gorefield before.

DoucheBagMcSwag, (edited ) do games w Gar-Type is a free pixelart shooter based on a cosmic horror meme about a lazy, ravenous housecat

I’m sorry Joehn (legally distinct owner of cat)

HipsterTenZero, do games w Gar-Type is a free pixelart shooter based on a cosmic horror meme about a lazy, ravenous housecat
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lumpytouch actually made those fake game screenshots real? Nice

ryedaft, do games w Frostpunk creators cancel "Project 8" and lay off staff amid concerns that "narrative-driven, story-rich games" don't sell

The Last of Us is still selling.

LouNeko,

Which one? The original? The Remaster or the Remake? Or the 2nd or the Remaster of the 2nd?

feedum_sneedson, do games w Frostpunk creators cancel "Project 8" and lay off staff amid concerns that "narrative-driven, story-rich games" don't sell

jizzpunk

DankDingleberry, do games w Frostpunk creators cancel "Project 8" and lay off staff amid concerns that "narrative-driven, story-rich games" don't sell
@DankDingleberry@lemmy.world avatar

thats a shitty excuse if i ever heard one

_cryptagion,

More like it’s a shitty headline. The article shows there’s a little more to it, specifically that it was going to go over budget and they hadn’t figured out what they were gonna do.

kryptonidas, do games w Frostpunk creators cancel "Project 8" and lay off staff amid concerns that "narrative-driven, story-rich games" don't sell

I liked Frostpunk and would have loved a story driven game in that universe.

Vipsu, do games w Frostpunk creators cancel "Project 8" and lay off staff amid concerns that "narrative-driven, story-rich games" don't sell
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The title is a bit missleading considering that the actual article mentions a lot other problems that plagued the development.

Project 8 faced both progress and challenges. The COVID-19 pandemic made team stability difficult, but some quality improvements were achieved. However, critical issues persisted, causing delays and budget increases. The latest review revealed unresolved problems needing more time and money, along with revised sales forecasts, raising doubts about the project’s profitability.
– TLDR by Microsoft copilot

While there’s still demand for “narrative-driven story-rich games” one should keep realistic expectations. For this genre I feel smaller scope and indie developers work much better.

MajorHavoc,

Oof.

“The COVID-19 pandemic made team stability difficult,”

Makes me suspect they were woefully behind the rest of the field in development practices. My team, and many others, gained productivity when all the wasteful manager ego stroking in-person meetings stopped.

Alternately, it tells us they rely on a weird dev kit with a lot of esoteric hardware. Though I would still call that out as being super out of date. Nothing is particularly hard to emulate today, for teams that prioritize having rebuildable test environmenta.

Just wild.

Bummer about the layoffs. Probably won’t fix their agility problem, though.

erraticunicorn,

I think it’s probably true though. I pitched my game to them and they graciously responded and said they are looking into publishing narrative driven games but rather mechanically complex games.

GhiLA, do games w Frostpunk creators cancel "Project 8" and lay off staff amid concerns that "narrative-driven, story-rich games" don't sell
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man who normally buys “narrative-driven, story-rich games” forced to put his money back into his wallet

viking,
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Anything good you can recommend? Haven’t seen much good since Witcher 3… And before that, maybe Gothic 2 or Oblivion.

logos,

Baldurs gate 3? One of the best games I ever played.

GhiLA,
@GhiLA@sh.itjust.works avatar

This man is spitting straight fire.

frezik,

I haven’t played it, but based on everything I’ve read about it, that alone puts the headline to shame.

GelatinGeorge,

I’ve a love/hate relationship with Rogue Trader 40k. I fucking love it, literally everything about it, but I also hate it because it will end at some point.

ICastFist,
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Divinity Original Sin 1 and 2, if you haven’t played already. Think of them as the stepping stones for BG3.

Spec Ops: The Line is a 3rd person shooter with an incredible story, I think it takes 4-6 hours to go through the campaign. Short when compared to RPGs, but worth the time. People also talk about Titanfall 2’s campaign being great, I haven’t played it yet.

Mass Effect trilogy is also very good, mainly the 2nd game. The first game is the jankiest of the bunch and the 3rd is much better after all the DLC, though I still don’t like how the optional Paragon/Renegade prompts from 2 became obligatory QTE in 3.

Ellvix,
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Currently sucked into Kingdom Come Deliverance, which is similar to TW3 in that it’s a first person story driven game, but set in IRL 1403 Bohemia instead of the fantasy setting. Very good historical storytelling, I think.

Earflap,

TW3 is third person

Ashtear,

Since The Witcher 3 came out, my favorite video game stories have been Disco Elysium, Cyberpunk 2077, 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim, Alan Wake 2, Citizen Sleeper, and Metaphor: ReFantazio. I also really liked Death Stranding, but Kojima’s not for everyone.

Mr_Dr_Oink,

You know, maybe i dont know enough about games as i am a casual these days, aside from baldurs gate 3 which is a fucking masterpiece, i really like the 2 (soon to be 3) star wars jedi games outcast and survivour. They are like a much easier souls mixed with the 3d prince of persia (sands of time, warrior within, two thrones) games but are very story driven. I am very excited to see what will happen in the final game in the trilogy qhen it comes out.

GhiLA,
@GhiLA@sh.itjust.works avatar

…Yakuza

Bros being bros forever.

KnowledgeableNip,
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I’ve been loving Metaphor recently

Earflap, (edited )

If you liked the story driven elements of TW3 you might like Cyberpunk 2077. Its very similar story and engine wise since they’re both made by CDPR, but obviously very different thematically. God of War is another story driven narrative driven game I enjoyed.

ours,

The new Indiana Jones game is really fun.

SpiceDealer,
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I’ve been playing Outer Worlds lately. It’s made by Obsidian so it’s gameplay is similar to F:NV.

Damage,

Control? Horizon Zero Dawn and Horizon Forbidden West.

dustyData, do games w Frostpunk creators cancel "Project 8" and lay off staff amid concerns that "narrative-driven, story-rich games" don't sell

Typical infantile C-suite logic “I didn’t do X well, therefore X is impossible and no one can do X! It’s not my fault, I swear!”

Kbobabob,

Maybe the people are just out of touch? I’m sure that’s it.

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