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Kolanaki, do gaming w Games only need fast travel when they make travel "boring", says Dragon's Dogma 2 director
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Travel is gonna become boring if you have to travel the same road multiple times in the course of the game even if you have a bunch of cool stuff along that road. Eventually, I won’t give a shit about that stuff since I’ve seen it a million times. So I would hope there is still some kind of fast travel to go between places I have already been if the world is super big. Otherwise it’s just gonna feel like you’re padding the game for time to inflate a 10 hour story to take 40 hours to finish.

all-knight-party,
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I think the better way to help fix this issue is random encounters, spawns, and a world that changes as the game moves along.

Moving along the same road can be made interesting if different things are happening every so often as you come through. New friendly encounters, new fights with different enemies, maybe randomly spawning treasure or scripted puzzle sequences that can appear dynamically around the whole world. Add to that a world that becomes modified by story events, maybe that road gets blocked and a different passage opens up that takes you to the same end destination, but with a new path and things to explore.

It's not an unsolvable problem, but it is something that goes by the wayside often.

Ashelyn,

One thing to consider too is scheduled events. Imagine a couple towns get together and throw a fair along a route that connects them, and you get to see celebrations and games and vendors who might sell trinkets that are hard to track down otherwise. Perhaps the local monarch goes on a hunt with the massive party of servants and knights that might entail, with different practices for different cultures. A band of cultists clears an area for several days leading up to their yearly ritual. It’s migration season for a certain species of animal/monster. There are so many possibilities!

Even just vendors passing through can be made more interesting. Do they carry their wares via backpack or cart? Are they being attacked by bandits? Wild animals? Are they trying to smuggle goods or services somewhere?

It all has to be programmed of course, which is the main holdup on what makes it so hard to flesh out those parts of the world.

I do also see weight in the idea that, past a certain point, traveling is just boring, especially if the only thing of importance is the Main Story Quest. Travel is also often boring in real life too but we can tune it out, or find little ways to pass the time and entertain ourselves during the more mundane moments. We’re not frequently afforded that luxury in games. When you’re playing a game and dealing with the downtime going from point A to B, often there is literally nothing to do except hold down the movement keys and deal with the occasional path change/obstacle.

The point of games is to be engaging, and if there’s nothing to do while traveling but look at the scenery and surroundings it will eventually get boring. Even if the travel gets interrupted occasionally for an encounter, I think it’s arguable to say that the content is literally not travel anymore and in fact papering over a bad travel system (if the only thing interesting is the stuff you find that you have to stop and take care of). Adding more unique/transient stuff along routes is only half of the battle; work has to be put in to make traveling enjoyable in and of itself for players to want to do it instead of skip it.

But as always, the best solution to our problem is to simply add more trains.

Edit: slight restructuring/grammar

wolfshadowheart,
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To add to this, DD1 has quite a number of NPC's that travel between regions and you can come across them. As you progress through the game their patterns and locations change.

I actually am ambivalent on the latter mechanic as it really makes it a pain sometimes, but it still has lots of ways that it can work well.

snooggums,
@snooggums@kbin.social avatar

Depends on the reason for traveling. If you are headed down the road to a goal and keep getting sidetracked by random encounters in a way that is distracting you from the thing you want to do then they just make travel tedious.

It all comes down to why am I traveling and why are encounters on the road more engaging than the reason for being on the road in the first place.

Lith,
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From the article:

And for the record, Itsuno does say that he thinks fast travel is “convenient” and “good” when done right.

Based on Dragon’s Dogma 1’s use of Ferrystones, as well as this mechanic returning along with oxcarts in the sequel, I think this director understands that there needs to be a balance. It’s good when it’s both properly implemented and has a purpose. You’re right that nobody wants to run up and down the same roads countless times, but it’s up to the devs implementing limited fast travel to make sure you won’t have to. Then it’s up to the player to decide whether fast travel is worth it for any given situation. Knowing when to use your fast travel and how to maximize it is a skill that you develop and should be rewarded for mastering.

But it also needs to have a purpose. In more arcadey games, I don’t like worrying about resources like that. But in more grueling games like Dragon’s Dogma, where the journey is often a very intentional part of the gameplay loop if not the main challenge itself, it fits right at home.

Conyak, do gaming w Unity say layoffs “likely” as they recover from disastrous pricing plan rollout and look to AI for growth

So the CEO makes a shit decision, quits and leaves with his millions of dollars and now a bunch of employees get to lose their job. Capitalism is so disgusting.

cerement, do gaming w Unity say layoffs “likely” as they recover from disastrous pricing plan rollout and look to AI for growth
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“who could’ve seen this coming?”
“everyone. everyone saw this coming.”

Pisodeuorrior,

The CEO should be hanged by the balls, just one disastrous decision after another, what an incompetent moron.

thingsiplay,
@thingsiplay@kbin.social avatar

The CEO of Unity is the former CEO of E.A., BTW.

Gordon_Freeman,
@Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social avatar

And when he was there he said people should pay $1 to reload their weapons on Battlefield

CJOtheReal,

Ah that explains a lot…

DoucheBagMcSwag, do gaming w Yep, Payday 3 seems a lot like Payday... but that's no bad thing

…with tacked on always online bullshit

Untitled_Pribor,
@Untitled_Pribor@kbin.social avatar

And Denuvo

forgotaboutlaye, do gaming w Starfield's animated trailers offer some player motivation for life among the stars

I watched two of the three, and really enjoyed them. Sure, I'd much rather see more gameplay, and they didn't do anything to sell me on the game itself, but they were enjoyable nonetheless

guacupado, do games w Deadrop developer Midnight Society cuts ties with Dr Disrespect following new Twitch ban allegations

That’s about what you expect a cop to act like.

Phegan, do games w Deadrop developer Midnight Society cuts ties with Dr Disrespect following new Twitch ban allegations

The defense is: if he did anything wrong he would be in jail.

My brother in Christ, you don’t need to do something illegal to be a shitbag.

kogasa,
@kogasa@programming.dev avatar

Well, we knew he was a shitbag beforehand, so that’s not really what’s in question

themaninblack,

How about recording in a public bathroom?

maxenmajs, do games w Deadrop developer Midnight Society cuts ties with Dr Disrespect following new Twitch ban allegations
@maxenmajs@lemmy.world avatar

Damn, not even NFT bros want to hang out with an alleged predator.

micka190,

Hear me out: What if they took the DMs and made NFTs out of them?

SomethingBurger,

NFT = Non-Fuckable Teenagers?

BleakBluets, do games w Deadrop developer Midnight Society cuts ties with Dr Disrespect following new Twitch ban allegations
@BleakBluets@lemmy.world avatar

Such unexpected behavior from a person who was unfaithful to their spouse and who brought a cameraperson into a public bathroom. I’m shocked (/s)

very_well_lost,

And also, I mean, like… you guys have all seen the moustache, right?

Goronmon, do games w Deadrop developer Midnight Society cuts ties with Dr Disrespect following new Twitch ban allegations

He actually responded to this on Twitter.

twitter.com/DrDisrespect/…/1805662419261460986

Two clear quotes from the tweet.

Were there twitch whisper messages with an individual minor back in 2017? The answer is yes.

and also

I’m no fucking predator or pedophile.

apfelwoiSchoppen,
@apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world avatar

Usually what the predator pedophile says.

Speculater,
@Speculater@lemmy.world avatar

“I did it! But she was 17! Get over it people. Gosh darn it.”

Who the fuck finds his streams entertaining.

FiniteBanjo,

Part of me wants to give some benefit of the doubt but it’s really difficult. Maybe he was trying to meet up at the nintendo panel for upcoming Super Smash Bros Ultimate and the Twitch admins read “I can’t wait to smash with you.”

If DrDisrespect has actually been wronged then we will find out eventually after a defamation suit, part of the reason they settled it last time might be because the mere allegations being released to the public could be harmful but that cat is out of the bag.

can,

Part of me wants to give some benefit of the doubt

Why? Hasn’t his official statement said enough? I have no idea who this guy is. Is he that big?

pipe01,

Used to be the biggest streamer on twitch before he got banned

can,

Welp, I’m not on twitch but if I ever heard his name before it never registered. Who’s the biggest now? Or just make someone up I’ll never know.

Chickenslippers,

Probably the biggest streamer right now is a rainbow six siege streamer named jynxi who averages near 100k viewers

can,

Is this real? Or are you just tricking me by using an older game I’d know?

Who can tell

Chickenslippers,

No tricks here my friend. I don’t know how a console playing siege person could become that big but he did it

FiniteBanjo,

Because I think mob justice is criminal. If Dr Disrespect did wrong then he did wrong, but we don’t know anything other than the fact that he has in fact spoken to a person who was under 18, which in itself is not a crime.

Twitch banned him 3 years after the supposed contact between the two, and attempted to go without paying out his contract termination until he started a lawsuit and Twitch settled it.

can,

casual, mutual conversations that sometimes leaned too much in the direction of being inappropriate,

This is what he’s willing to admit. I wonder what constitutes “inappropriate”.

mosiacmango,

Twitch turbo ejected the largest streamer on its platform days after the messages were sent, so… likely pretty fucking inappropriate.

These were DMs, so never public, but the “tried to meetup at twitchcon” makes it seem like he was explicitly trying to rape a kid and thats where twitch, who could have just said nothing, hit the “fuck no” button.

Fuck this guy and good on them. Amazon still has some decent people, or at least did.

4am,

The messages were sent in 2017. They weren’t reported to Twitch until 2020, at which point they reviewed and took action - that was the whole “Doc got banned and we don’t know why” saga.

Now we know.

Crikeste,

Defending a pedophile isn’t a good look, Guy.

FiniteBanjo, (edited )
  1. I haven’t defended him, I’ve consistently said he might have committed a crime, though that would be unlikely given it was 7 years ago.
  2. Labeling everyone you don’t like as a pedophile isn’t a good look.
Crikeste,

Nah, sexually texting a minor isn’t a two sided thing. There is no justification for it. There is no ‘I’m not a pedophile’ about sexually texting a minor. The sexual texting a minor is the intent to do more. You don’t simply ‘play around’ sexually texting a minor.

FiniteBanjo,

Then don’t sexually text any minors. Very simple. Now that I’ve helped you sort out your odd unrelated moral dilema, do you have anything to say about the Doc?

mildlyusedbrain,

Yeah he’s a creep and so are you

can,

Were there real intentions behind these messages, the answer is absolutely not. These were casual, mutual conversations that sometimes leaned too much in the direction of being inappropriate, but nothing more.

😑

474D,

This is literally “I was inappropriately talking to a minor, nothing more” like wtf lol

can, (edited )

This man felt he finally had the opportunity to share his side of the story and decided to lead with that.

Edit: Now in skit form

micka190,

I can finally share my side of the story now that Twitch employees have come forward. You see, all I did was indulge in a little bit of grooming. One might even say it was a minor case of grooming.

Anyways, I’m not a pedo.

Doc out!

Telodzrum,

This might be worse than when that woman ukeleled her sexual predator apology.

kandoh,

That’s what they always used to say to Chris Hansen when he’d confront them about the texts

4am,

Someone already got Chris Hansen to do a Cameo for Doc 😂👌

pushECX,

LOL do you have a link for it?

4am,

youtu.be/bFc-tlXT56I?si=xjOb6xqKxmWJG8Uw

Most of the ones I can find are react content re-uploads. This one has corny captions on it but at least it’s the raw video.

Jackthelad, do games w Deadrop developer Midnight Society cuts ties with Dr Disrespect following new Twitch ban allegations
breadsmasher,
@breadsmasher@lemmy.world avatar

Batboy flipping grunts in my community? Say it aint so!

FiniteBanjo,

I always knew he was a gambling addict.

8000gnat,

It’s more likely than you think

can,
demonsword, do gaming w How Embracer's cuts killed a potential Red Faction sequel and gutted a promising studio
@demonsword@lemmy.world avatar

But several people also noted that the games industry goes through cycles of mass layoffs, because simply having a stable business isn’t enough for investors. Revenues must grow by a chunky margin: if they don’t, costs must be cut. Embracer’s mishandling of their business might be grotesque, but it’s business as usual nonetheless. “We make a shitload of money, but it doesn’t go back into the games,” one person commented. “It goes into a lot of now very wealthy peoples’ pockets, and the people who actually make the games kind of scrape by, most of the time.”

late stage capitalism

warmaster, do gaming w How Embracer's cuts killed a potential Red Faction sequel and gutted a promising studio

Doed Embracer own all their IPs now ?

astrsk, do gaming w PVKK from the Dome Keeper devs is Papers Please but you get a huge planetary defence cannon
@astrsk@kbin.run avatar

Immediate wishlist. Hope VR support comes in the future!

GammaGames, (edited )

Their last game was in Godot and the engine has a small vr modding presence, so even if it’s not official there’s hope!

(If this one is in godot, not sure about that)

itslilith,
@itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

It is! It says so in the trailer

GammaGames,

Love to see it, thanks for the confirmation!

savvywolf, do gaming w PVKK from the Dome Keeper devs is Papers Please but you get a huge planetary defence cannon
@savvywolf@pawb.social avatar

I have never wanted to play a game so hard in my life. It seems to have the atmosphere of Inscryption, the gameplay of Papers Please and a lot of buttons and knobs to mess around with.

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