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Schmuppes, do gaming w After almost a decade, cult classic car building sim [My Summer Car] hits 1.0, and it's soaring on Steam

Haven’t played it in a long while, but I remember it to be horrible and enjoyable at the same time.

Malix,
@Malix@sopuli.xyz avatar

same, same. Had some cheap laughs with it around the time of release - got horribly drunk, peed out of the van’s window - at obscene speeds on dirt road, died several times… good times.

But actually building the car? Yea nah, that’s some arcane arts to me, don’t know much about cars beyond the surface level.

Nilz, (edited )

The worst thing is (was?) that you couldn’t even build the car without looking at a tutorial online. So many steps that are impossible to figure out on your own.

I like the game and spent a lot of time with it, but when I last played it half a year ago it still felt pretty unfinished.

Edit: looking at the changelog, it’s the first update in two years and they didnt really add anything new, apart from some bug fixes and a “feature” where you can die from a wasp in your house if you leave the doors open all the time. They won’t be adding any more features after this. How can they even call this 1.0.

JillyB,

If there’s one thing I’ve learned, it’s that some gamers absolutely love arcane bullshit. I think I’m going to give the game a whirl

improbablypoopingrn,

Check out Ginauz if you need any tutorials!

DdCno1,

where you can die from a wasp in your house if you leave the doors open all the time

Funny how they managed to sum up everything I hate about games like these in one line of a patch note.

Suburbanl3g3nd,

I mean, how many people do you know that can rebuild a car without any manual?

vaionko,

And the sequel, My Winter Car, coming this year, is promised to be even less fun!

ProdigalFrog, do games w Thief has a new spiritual sequel, built by the Deus Ex and System Shock devs

A co-op campaign I’d be down for, but I can’t say I’m excited for this. I’m just not feeling the vibe.

Wrufieotnak,

Coop Immersive Sim sounds awesome to be honest.

AlphaOmega, do games w Thief has a new spiritual sequel, built by the Deus Ex and System Shock devs

It’s called Thief, not Thieves

prof, do gaming w The Day Before parody, built by one person for $1,500, looks better than the actual game
@prof@infosec.pub avatar

Why anyone would spend 1500 dollars and 300 hours on a parody is beyond me but it’s impressive work nonetheless for a solo dev.

The gameplay was fun to watch, but mostly just because the characters steps sounded like their shoes were sticky after they stepped into some spilled cola or zombie guts or whatever.

Wodge, do games w Legendary Half-Life YouTuber plans class-action lawsuit against Ubisoft for killing The Crew
@Wodge@lemmy.world avatar

This is all well and good, but what of all those MMORPGs that got shut down?

The Crew is a bizarre game to do this kinda treatment for, since the sequel is very similar to the first, less terrible crime syndicate story, more planes and other nonsense. It’s also pretty middling, car handling is really weird, and the lack of rear view mirrors looks pretty weird nowadays.

I’m guessing it’s car licensing that’s causing the shutdown. It’s what happened to Forza Horizon 1 and 2. If that is the case, this game isn’t going to get open sourced ever. Also: why didn’t this guy go after Microsoft to make them playable again?

MrScottyTay,

It’s because MMOs were sold as subscriptions (most of the time) so they’re legally covered in being allowed to end their service. The crew however was sold as a full game with no subscription. They didn’t make it clear that the game could cease to exist even though you paid for it outright.

Sadly, I feel like a lawsuit line this won’t have the benefit we’re all hoping for (open sourcing on closure of services) but will instead just make all subsequent games free-to-play, which would make them more exempt to the same scrutiny. And we’re already seemingly heading that way too, warts and all.

DosDude,
@DosDude@retrolemmy.com avatar

For the future maybe. For games that were sold one day, they would have to either keep supporting it, or release server software.

It is up to the gamers to keep supporting this practice in the future.

I can still play Unreal Tournament '99 and 2004 even though the servers are offline. I can even still play it online with the server ip and even use the server browser with fan mods.

You can’t say the same for the crew when it goes offline.

Wodge,
@Wodge@lemmy.world avatar

The reason you can still play UT99 and 2004 is because those games were never hosted by epic on a central server. The game shipped with the server hosting tools, and it was designed to allow you to host your own server (if your connection was fast enough) or to rent your own server from a third party.

They’re also very different types of games from the current crop of live service games that this youtuber is targeting.

DosDude,
@DosDude@retrolemmy.com avatar

I am aware it’s different. All I’m trying to say is either make it single player, release dedicated server software or keep supporting it. You sold it as a product. Don’t remove access to a product.

Wodge,
@Wodge@lemmy.world avatar

For the last few years, most MMOs have been, or become, Free to Play, with (a lot of) microtransactions. The only subscription MMOs I can think of off the top of my head are FFXIV, WoW and Eve. Then you have the buy to play, with no sub (or optional sub, but not required to play), games like New World and Elder Scrolls Online. Making the vast majority F2P.

All of those games can become EOL and be removed from sale for any number of reasons, and they’ll have the same terms in the EULA that the crew would have. There is literally nothing different legally between The Crew and something like Elyon. Both were paid for up front, no subscription with some optional microtransactions.

Since legallly there is nothing different between all these live service games, it makes this youtubers campaign all the more odd. Car Licensing is notoriously well enforced, so why is this guy, a Half Life youtuber of all things, thinking he can go after Ubisoft on this when it’s pretty obvious that it’s the license agreements that are the likely cause of the shutdown.

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

Since it’s free they were never sold to you as product, their asses are covered on this one, you can make an arguement for Elder Scrolls Online, Black Desert Online (I bought this one, I have the receipt to prove it) and Guild Wars 2 since they use the b2p model with an optional subscription. Car licensing can only prevent ubisoft to sell the game, it’s not required for them to shut it down and render your copy unusable.

MrScottyTay,

It’s all about how they’re sold and marketed rather than what’s in a EULA. They can’t be used the same way as a contract upon purchase and have been shown just as such in law cases in the past. FFXIV, WOW and Eve have always been sold under the pretence you need to keep paying to keep playing.

PieMePlenty,

Horizon can be played offline. When Microsoft bites the dust, I can still pop in a Forza horizon 2 DVD into my 360 and play it.

SomethingBurger,

Realistically, when Microsoft bites the dust, both your FH2 DVD and your 360 will have stopped working decades ago.

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

You just made it look even worse for Ubisoft since the first 3 Horizon games work offline and everyone that bought them can still play it just fine, you just can’t buy them right now.

Brunbrun6766, do games w Redfall can be the next Cyberpunk 2077, if Microsoft wants it to be.
@Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world avatar

Hmmm no

8ender, do games w Redfall can be the next Cyberpunk 2077, if Microsoft wants it to be.

I don’t care if it’s true please let’s just leave it dead and not encourage this. I don’t want to buy games wondering if the studio is going to make it 100x better after I’ve already played through the plot. Like, I’m happy CDPR fixed Cyberpunk, I really am, but it should have been good day one.

Thanks4Nothing, do games w Payday 2 has three times the Payday 3 players right now

We (Payday 2 Players) also racked up hours upon hours (I think I am around 1000 total) and they didn’t really give us anything for all that work. We got a underwhelming skin. A bare bones weapon, and some weapon charms …do they realize how hard it was to beat every heist on Deathwish without a hacker in the lobby? A Charm? For Real? Give me my deathwish mask back and I will play your new game

Thanks4Nothing,

Oh yeah…and voice chat. How you make a game that requires players to communicate without a voice chat option is beyond me. The pings are not enough.

lustyargonian, do games w Redfall doesn’t have enough Steam players to fill a team

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snooggums,
@snooggums@kbin.social avatar

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blazera, do games w Counter Strike 2 is surprisingly awful on Steam Deck right now
@blazera@kbin.social avatar

I try finding out what the 2 is even about, and im seeing stuff like...improved smoke grenades, and ability to refund weapons?

What happened to the number 2 man, that used to be a big deal.

oxhead,

CS2 is on Source engine 2. Hence the major version bump.

priapus, (edited )

It’s a new engine, which is more than enough to warrant a new title imo. CS has been practically the same game many years and has been incredibly successful all that time. The community does not want major gameplay changes, just minor improvements. CS as a series is not like COD or Battlefield.

CS2 has much more advanced and consistent smokes, vastly improved graphics, more advanced netcode, competitive improvments alongside a new competitive mode similar to FaceIT, and loads of quality of life improvements. I think this is more than enough to be considered a sequel.

elliot_crane,

I’m pretty happy personally that the community server browser no longer looks like it was made in 1996. The new one actually works on my ultrawide monitor, so I can find servers on my own now. In CSGO, I had to have a friend find a server for us and then I’d just join him.

priapus,

Yep i’m also a big fan of the new browser. Although, I do wish it opened in the overlay instead of a completely separate window.

dudewitbow,

The difference between csgo and cs2 is similar to cs 1.6 to cs source. Its a major change of engine with brings in other changes with it.

Psythik,

Why is it called CS2, though, instead of CS4? I mean, it’s the fourth game in the series, isn’t it?

  1. CS
  2. CS:Source
  3. CS:GO
  4. CS2???
dudewitbow,

because source wasn’t a sequel to them, just an engine port. Why counterstrike 2 is called 2, imo, just because Source 2

Being a new game in a series doesn’t necessarily mean that its the next numbered game, especially to valve. Technically speaking, the other counterstrike project (Condition Zero, single player content) is also a thing.

Psythik, (edited )

They should have called it CS: Source 2, then. The game hasn’t changed enough to be considered a sequel. They made the same amount of improvements to this one as they always have in the last. Doesn’t make sense to call it a full-blown sequel.

They probably figured that if Blizzard could get away with calling it Overwatch 2, despite being the same game, they probably could too.

Skwerls,

Wait until you hear about call of duty

Indicah,

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  • dudewitbow,

    Hence “to them”, not to people. They did make changes. But that doesnt stop what they think. Your opinion doesnt change what they think.

    AstralPath,

    Why so aggressive?

    silentknyght,

    Because calling it CS4 would mean admitting they made a “3”.

    WaterWaiver, do games w Your Minecraft account might be gone forever unless you act now

    Finally did this a week or so back, I had one of the original accounts (username login, not email). Made me feel like shit and manipulated, all to make Microsoft happier.

    sugar_in_your_tea,

    Yup. I changed mine a while back for my kids to play with, and now it’s all tied to MS. I considered buying another license, but screw em.

    CluckN, do games w MW2 remastered multiplayer mod shut down by Activision day before launch

    Activision cementing that they are the only ones who can release the same game every year.

    VerseAndVermin, do games w ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) The Sims 4 just got surprise incest, and it's not even the first time

    Alabama update.

    Katana314, do gaming w Deus Ex star says that Eidos asked him not to talk about Adam Jensen in public any more

    Given some of the fair-use-adjacent fan work the Team Fortress voice actors have done, I sometimes wish there were more fictional characters out there that actors had the rights to represent as outside of media.

    I recall interviews where the guy who does Dr Eggman just politely refused simple fun requests because they wouldn’t be approved by Sega, which is too bad.

    Cort,

    The only example I can think of where that has happened would be Ryan Reynolds & Deadpool. Iirc he kinda just stole the costume after the 1st movie wrapped filming

    SatouKazuma, do gaming w Suicide Squad Kill The Justice League adds Denuvo DRM before launch
    @SatouKazuma@lemmy.world avatar

    How to kill that which was already dead…

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