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gravitas_deficiency, do games w Games consoles are infuriatingly exempt from California's otherwise important new right to repair bill

Enterprising Greedy manufacturers will absolutely devise a way to classify computers, laptops, tablets, and phones as “game consoles”.

tristan,

HP tomorrow “introducing our new gaming inkjet printer”

gravitas_deficiency,

printer scanner, which requires ink cartridges to function

ClemaX,

At this point I think they will just sell them for less than 50$ and still earn as much money by shrinkflation.

FartsWithAnAccent, do games w Games consoles are infuriatingly exempt from California's otherwise important new right to repair bill
@FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world avatar

Extreme? Fuck off, lol

cryomancer20x6, do games w Games consoles are infuriatingly exempt from California's otherwise important new right to repair bill

I wonder where the Steam Deck falls since it can be used as a general computer, but the primary intended use is to play games.

Pika,

game console for sure, as the rest of the have the capability as well but it’s general focus is gaming.

QuaternionsRock,

Can’t install a general computer OS on any other “console” out of the box though.

I wouldn’t expect Valve to have a problem with conforming to right-to-repair laws anyway. I have a hard time imagining they’re taking a bath on hardware that you can completely remove their storefront from.

Bluescluestoothpaste,

But general focus isn’t a specific legal term is it? Like what about gaming laptops? Isn’t that the same thing? I haven’t read the law so idk if it creates that specificity.

curiousaur, do games w Games consoles are infuriatingly exempt from California's otherwise important new right to repair bill

Ok, hear me out. My intuition tells me its because consoles are subsidized. The manufacturer loses money or breakes even in order to make money back in the games sold. I think Nintendo is an exception. So having the additional expense of having to support them harms the hardware subsidy model.

Kolanaki, (edited )
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Nintendo has been the only game company I’ve seen be directly vocal against the Right to Repair stuff. 🤔

moody,

I assume that they managed to get it exempted based on piracy concerns.

Frying your console’s motherboard attempting to install a mod chip is not a big deal if you can replace it yourself on the cheap.

curiousaur,

Even better, it would mean those selling mod chips could just buy the motherboards and sell pre modded motherboards.

Cethin,

Maybe, but why should that exempt them? If the model doesn’t work anymore then it doesn’t work. Who cares. They’ll still sell consoles and make money. They might cost more upfront or something, but they’ll still sell them.

Potatos_are_not_friends,

Gotta admit… That sounds like a “them” problem. If they want to sell it at a loss, that’s on them. Make console prices more expensive.

Bring more gamers to the PC & Steam Deck.

bob_wiley,
@bob_wiley@lemmy.world avatar

Seems like repairs would increase the usable life of the console, thus allowing the user to buy more games for it, letting the manufacturer get over more money out of that purchase.

What’s the alternative, they fix it for free in a recall instead of selling parts? Someone buys a new console which is another loss for them with limited chance to make it up? The person gets upset and buys the competition’s console?

renormalizer,

Wouldn’t that be an argument for right-to-repair? If the user has to buy another console because theirs broke, the company has made twice the loss for the same number of games bought (or fewer, because the user has less money to spend on games). Reparing looks like a win-win here.

AceFuzzLord, do games w Games consoles are infuriatingly exempt from California's otherwise important new right to repair bill

As much of a bummer as that is, I don’t think there has ever been any major cases of someone just replacing parts for their console and not selling it. What is a company like sintendo gonna do if you replace the screen on your switch with a 3rd party screen or open it up to replace any parts but don’t end up selling it?

moody,

I think they’re more concerned about mod chips and having to sell replacement motherboards to fix botched jobs.

Nollij, do games w Games consoles are infuriatingly exempt from California's otherwise important new right to repair bill

Does anyone know the reasoning used for the exception? From the article, it was clearly a deliberate decision. But I do not see any reason why it was needed.

moody,

I’m guessing piracy.

morphballganon, do games w Games consoles are infuriatingly exempt from California's otherwise important new right to repair bill

Game consoles are like proprietary PCs with some of the features removed. If PCs are included, couldn’t you argue game consoles are too?

snooggums,
@snooggums@kbin.social avatar

Moat electronics are proprietary computers with limited features. Consoles make no sense as an exception.

Bluescluestoothpaste, (edited )

I mean what features are removed exactly? They have all the components needed to install windows/mac/linux and hook up a mouse and keyboard. I really don’t see any distinction besides they come with gamepads and a gaming oriented OS instead of keyboards and a more general OS.

kadu, do games w Games consoles are infuriatingly exempt from California's otherwise important new right to repair bill
@kadu@lemmy.world avatar

It reminds me of the absolute insane stuff arcade manufacturers would do to keep control over everything.

Capcom used to sell full blown arcade systems where the game’s ROM was actually volatile - in 2 years, it would vanish. You needed to pay them a monthly fee so that a technician would come up with a special device capable of rewriting the data periodically.

sentient_loom, do games w Games consoles are infuriatingly exempt from California's otherwise important new right to repair bill

Oh that would be amazing. If I had control over my game console.

Crotaro, do gaming w Old School RuneScape punishes innovation, prevents player from using their own severed toe to skirt anti-botting rules

Well that sure is an article I never expected to read.

But I also think Jagex should have given it a more firm “No”. Or at least a “Please don’t”. Depending on how long it takes to grind mining and what the potential reward is, I can see one or two people going for this without having their appendages removed for actual medical reasons.

mihnt, do gaming w No Man's Sky is enjoying its 'biggest month in the last few years', coinciding with the launch of Starfield
@mihnt@kbin.social avatar

The FOMO in that game drove me away from it.

snipgan, do gaming w No Man's Sky is enjoying its 'biggest month in the last few years', coinciding with the launch of Starfield
@snipgan@kbin.social avatar

From what I have seen, granted I haven't played it myself due to my burnout with Fallout 4, Starfield is just a Bethesda flavored No Man's Sky.

Not much to grab my attention and most people I have seen played it seem to put it at a 5-6/10 type of game. Good, but nothing really great.

Meanwhile we have an arguably more fleshed out space exploration game that is No Man's Sky to suit your itch, that is probably cheaper or on sale somewhere. Doesn't helping modding will take years to reach really big game altering levels as it took a while, If even that.

Kara,
@Kara@kbin.social avatar

Tbh, No Mans Sky and Starfield have little in common except being space games. Starfield isn't a space exploration / space sim game. It's an RPG set in space. Starfield has more of a storyline and characters then No Man's Sky, they're different games for different people

kayjay,

I wouldn’t call Starfield Bethesda-flavored NMS, I’d call it a NMS-flavored Bethesda game. NMS and Starfield aren’t very comparable except for the setting.

Oneeightnine, do games w [Spoilers] If you finish Starfield 4 or 5 times, some seriously weird s*** starts happening
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I’m honestly amazed that anyone could have completed it more than once already. I’ve played it every day since Friday and I feel like I’ve barely got out of the opening seconds of the game.

davepleasebehave,

I haven’t even finished Elden ring. but that’s apparently a skill issue.

BeardedGingerWonder,

Any % speedrun is already under an hour!

InfiniteLoop,

another article said a ng+ run is about 90 minutes. so it seems if you just wanna complete loops, the post-game is a much different pace than your first run

TwilightVulpine, do gaming w Old School RuneScape punishes innovation, prevents player from using their own severed toe to skirt anti-botting rules

Maybe it's for the best if they don't incentive the use of severed body parts.

CorrodedCranium, do gaming w No Man's Sky is enjoying its 'biggest month in the last few years', coinciding with the launch of Starfield
@CorrodedCranium@leminal.space avatar

I would be curious to hear what other new game releases brought waves of people to a different title.

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