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ClydapusGotwald, do gaming w Gabe Newell on why game delays are okay: 'Late is just for a little while. Suck is forever.'

Such a great quote.

bionicjoey,

“Suck is forever”

-GabeN

kadu, do gaming w Gabe Newell on why game delays are okay: 'Late is just for a little while. Suck is forever.'
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  • RightHandOfIkaros,

    Eh, gaming journalism just wants clicks to get ad-revenue. They would write an article about anything. Gabe waking up in the morning is news worthy to them.

    RQG,
    @RQG@lemmy.world avatar

    Eh, gaming journalism just wants clicks to get ad-revenue.

    paultimate14,

    I’m looking forward to the ward between factions posting the two quotes in comments sections every time a game gets delayed for the next several decades

    TonyTonyChopper,
    itsgroundhogdayagain, do gaming w Gabe Newell on why game delays are okay: 'Late is just for a little while. Suck is forever.'

    Half Life 3 is super late

    ma11en,

    You’ve just added another month to the release date.

    HowManyNimons,

    Made the release date ONE MONTH BETTER.

    kautau,

    The release date can be calculated as:

    x = gabe(n)

    Where the function gabe multiplies the number of mentions of the game (signified by n) by months since it’s last mention

    KingJalopy,

    We’re fucked then

    netwren, (edited )

    Half Life Alyx was sick and demonstrated everything VR could be. I will standby that statement and tolerate the flamers.

    dpkonofa,

    Hard agree. That game is what I hope the future of games is like. Meeting Jeff is one of my favorite moments in gaming.

    CaptKoala,

    I started my second playthrough before even completing my first (due to PC upgrades) and I’m still having a great time.

    Fisch,
    @Fisch@lemmy.ml avatar

    I actually have that in my library because I bought the Index but haven’t played it yet because I wanted to play the first 2 games first. I didn’t play the first game for very long tho because I got stuck at some point early into the game and haven’t felt like continuing yet. You can also really feel the age of that game, controls and that kinda stuff. Not sure if I should just punch through that game or just say fuck it and play Alyx.

    RaoulDook,

    Well you’re in luck because there are VR mods available free for the older Half Life games. Just get the Orange Box or something with all the half life backlog and VR mod them for free.

    https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/c8d13dee-5a2e-4ecc-b26a-11d87b94df47.png

    Epsilion,
    @Epsilion@pawb.social avatar

    If by “first game” you mean HL1, you could try playing “Black Mesa” which is a fan remake of the game, in the same engine that powers HL2. It’s not a 1:1 recreation, but it’s close enough (and I feel it improves on some things).

    HL2 is also 3 seperate games (HL2, HL2 Episode 1, HL2 Episode 2), so make sure you have all of those in your library.

    At the very least, I’d suggest playing HL2/EP1/EP2 before Alyx, since those would provide the expected background for Alyx, despite it technically being a prequel-ish thing.

    MrScottyTay,

    Half life 1 just got a new big update that makes it much better to play this day and age and fixed a bunch of bugs. Either way you could skip 1. As a kid I never played 1 and went straight into 2, then 2 episodes 1 and 2 with the orange box. I still haven’t finished 1 but with this new update I think I’ll go back to it some point soon now.

    ursakhiin,

    Is it?

    MeanEYE,
    @MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

    Am not sure there’s a way for them to release HL3 and don’t disappoint huge number of people. Not because they suck at making games but because expectations have grown so so so much they are downright unachievable now.

    BeardedGingerWonder,

    The logical end point of that argument is not everyone is going to be happy with everything so why release anything.

    RaoulDook,

    At some point the Late vs Suck balance will tip the scales of So Late That the Customers Lost Interest or Died

    dylanTheDeveloper,
    @dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world avatar

    Bungie announced a new Marathon game

    MrScottyTay,

    Which is more inspired by rather than a full on sequel from what I’ve heard.

    nixcamic,

    I played hl2 as a teen.

    One of my kids just finished episode 2 and asked me when the next one was coming out. I was like “oh bud I got some bad news for ya”.

    It’s generational disappointment at this point.

    badbytes, do games w 505 Games' parent company lays off 30% of its workforce, says gamers really only want sequels so that's what it's going to make

    Sounds like parent company is Disney

    warmaster, do games w 505 Games' parent company lays off 30% of its workforce, says gamers really only want sequels so that's what it's going to make

    I bet it’s a PR stunt to cover the fact they are just downsizing their mismanaged business.

    SwallowsDick,

    Like retail chains blaming theft for shutting down locations

    quams69, do games w 505 Games' parent company lays off 30% of its workforce, says gamers really only want sequels so that's what it's going to make

    Why do these ghouls run businesses in an industry they clearly don’t have any faith in or understanding of,

    postmateDumbass,
    Fedizen, (edited ) do games w 505 Games' parent company lays off 30% of its workforce, says gamers really only want sequels so that's what it's going to make

    sequels of what?

    My highest play time game is probably minecraft, and my recent go-to is slay the spire.

    Sequels are seen as safer profits (there is an existing market) so they get more investment and more investment tends to make better games.

    This doesn’t mean its what people want, it just means that name recognition means its cheaper to market a hit game with previous versions acting as a marketing boost. Its a feedback loop.

    flop_leash_973, do games w 505 Games' parent company lays off 30% of its workforce, says gamers really only want sequels so that's what it's going to make

    It is always amusing to see the head of optional entertainment industries make statements like they are making a declaration on par with climate change, a economic depression, etc. As if they expect massive press coverage and endless crying by their would be customers.

    When in reality the actual reaction by most is along the lines of “oh no, anyway” and move on to the next bit of optional entertainment media while they and their company are forgotten to the trash pile of failed companies.

    Grangle1, do games w 505 Games' parent company lays off 30% of its workforce, says gamers really only want sequels so that's what it's going to make

    What gamers want is innovation and overall fun gameplay, sequel or not. I’ve heard rather little coming from AAA studios of interest to me as of late 'cause they’ve all gone to creating endless battle royales, action RPGs or looter-shooters that all play near identically, all with the same military or techno jungle aesthetic that just doesn’t appeal to me. It’s all gunning for their game to get big on that e-sport sponsorship money or find some way to load their games with micro transaction pay to win gambling BS. For the most part, small and indie studios are doing as well as the AAA big boys because they are able to put more creativity into their games on smaller budgets. When a big AAA game such as BG3 does succeed, it’s because they put as much or more effort and care into innovative and entertaining gameplay as they do into fancy ray tracing graphics and cash grab mechanics. Games like BG3 are as praised as they are because they are complete games that work like they should out of the box, no day 1 patch/DLC or extra money required for the full intended experience. We get the quality we expect for our $60-$70. Whether that’s a brand new IP or a sequel doesn’t matter much.

    Crozekiel,

    My only quibble with this is that I’m not sure I’d classify larian as a AAA studio. Not when you’re comparing to Activision or Bethesda or something. The game is absolutely amazing, I’ve put over 700 hours in and am still playing it. I can’t think of any of the big AAA studios releasing a game that comes close anytime in the last decade.

    Gonzako, do games w 505 Games' parent company lays off 30% of its workforce, says gamers really only want sequels so that's what it's going to make

    Execs see baldurs gate 3 doing great and they don’t get further than the title lol

    avater, do games w 505 Games' parent company lays off 30% of its workforce, says gamers really only want sequels so that's what it's going to make
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    Yeah if the sequels are good and not like Payday 3…

    Rhoeri, do games w 505 Games' parent company lays off 30% of its workforce, says gamers really only want sequels so that's what it's going to make

    The future of entertainment is bleak as fuck.

    slaacaa,

    Unapproved language detected. Drink verification can!

    Theharpyeagle,

    Meh, at least as far as the games industry goes, we’ve been here before. Really the past few years have been incredible for games, now it’s time to settle into another stretch of mediocrity as companies learn the same lessons over again. Super sucks for the devs, though, seems they always get the shortest end of the stick.

    isles,

    And I’m here trying to figure out which assumptions have to be true for this statement to be true.

    vettnerk, do games w 505 Games' parent company lays off 30% of its workforce, says gamers really only want sequels so that's what it's going to make

    So for the next 20 years all AAA game publishers will do the game equivalent of only releasing MCU/DC reboots, sequels and prequels?

    Ecksell,
    @Ecksell@lemmy.one avatar

    Ah yes the anime treatment. Only release reboots, sequels, prequels, and poor spinoffs. For every One Punch Man, Mob Psycho 100, Chainsaw Man, or Megalobox, there are way more re-do’s or milking such as Yet Another Gundam Series, a new Bleach something or another, InuYasha retread, Trigun reboot, Hunter x Hunter reboot, FMA Brotherhood, Fruits Basket, Fate/Stay universe, Evangelion remake, everything DragonBall…I could go on. It’s rather depressing.

    Games are just following the curves established by other artistic mediums over the decades when laziness and greed wins, as it always does. Even The Last of Us wasn’t safe.

    1847953620,

    last r we

    Duamerthrax,

    Sounds like you just need to stay away from Shonen series.

    ByGourou,

    For every reboot sequel and prequel there are 10 new series. There are around 40 different new anime this season. (Without counting Chinese, musics, poor quality and children’s show). Take a look at myanimelist seasonal anime.

    (Anime in Japan come out in season : winter, spring, summer, fall. So they start and finish roughly at the same time).
    .

    And most or your example are pretty bad,

    • bleach just got an end that everyone liked
    • hunter hunter was paused because the author is sick, it never stopped and it’s not a reboot
    • FMA brotherhood was great because it fixed the issue with FMA : the end of the anime was made before the manga. And it’s 2009 come on you can’t use that to say that nowadays there’s only reboots
    • yeah they are milking the fate franchise and evangelion, and their community is all for it
    Phegan, do games w 505 Games' parent company lays off 30% of its workforce, says gamers really only want sequels so that's what it's going to make

    Game devs should unionize

    GeneralEmergency, do games w 505 Games' parent company lays off 30% of its workforce, says gamers really only want sequels so that's what it's going to make

    A quick 5 minute search shows me that this is true. Lots of articles and lists out there. And the only games I could see that weren’t sequels or remakes, are Starfield and Harry Potter.

    This isn’t a new development either. Pong had a sequel.

    orion2145,

    Elden Ring. Cyberpunk. Outer Wilds. HiFi Rush. Stray. Midnight Suns (licensed like Potter but original).

    Not saying a lot. But far from none. And alongside Starfield and Horizon Forbidden West (second game in an original series) it’s hardly no original titles.

    GeneralEmergency,

    Not arguing. Just stating my experience.

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