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p5yk0t1km1r4ge, do gaming w Nearly 6 months later, Palworld devs confirm Nintendo never drew so much as an inch of its legal sword over bootleg Pokémon allegations
@p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world avatar

Of course not, because they didn’t do anything wrong. Just a bunch of pissed off pokemon fanboys pissed that Palworld was way better at the pokemon concept than Pokemon itself was.

Donjuanme,

I mean…

I’m glad there are so many Pokemon, and that Pokemon were not unique enough for the most part to be trademarked, but if you think they didn’t lift very heavily from a single source you’re fooling yourself and making flippant accusations of your straw-manned opposition.

Also I’m questioning if it was actually “way better” or just edgier for the memes that games would latch onto and vehemently defend. It seems to have been very successful in the latter even if it wasn’t their intent.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

They iterated on a stale formula in a way that those customers had wanted. Palworld is also far more competently designed than you’d expect from its premise, but that premise is the kind of satire that only people familiar with Pokemon would write in the first place.

p5yk0t1km1r4ge,
@p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world avatar

The other guy: NuH uH gIt Ur FlOoPiNt StRaWmAn AcCuSaTiOnS oUtTa HeRe!

p5yk0t1km1r4ge, (edited )
@p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world avatar

I mean…it is, literally, factually better than pokemon is at its own formula. Not really a disrespectful take, and far from a strawman. And you’re kidding yourself if you think being inspired by something is the same thing as theft. Fun fact: pokemon lifted off of dragon quest. The fact that it is so successful is literally because it does pokemon better, but sure, “flippant accusations” lol. Congrats, you are the exact type of fanboy I’m talking about

Donjuanme,

Dude, if you think I’ve played Pokemon since red/blue, or I’m fanboying here, I’m glad to be part of your strawman because it’s delusional.

p5yk0t1km1r4ge,
@p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world avatar

Sure bro it’s cool. Have a nice day!

all-knight-party,
@all-knight-party@kbin.run avatar

At its own formula? I thought Palworld had a whole like crafting and base building/management side. That's not really what I wanted out of a pokemon type game, and so I didn't get Palworld. I can understand it being a better game for somebody who likes that, but I don't know if that qualifies as Pokemon's formula.

p5yk0t1km1r4ge,
@p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world avatar

The catching of pals, the way you do it, mounting your pals, fighting in real time instead of turn based, the boss battles, the exploration are what people are specifically saying it does better than pokemon, and I 100% agree with that take.

Tearcell,
@Tearcell@mastodon.gamedev.place avatar

@p5yk0t1km1r4ge @Donjuanme it has fun, tactical pvp now? I may have to reinstall!

Nikls94,

I love the Pokémon franchise, even grew up with it. And Palworld was just a way better experience than let’s say Scarlet and Violet.

Yes, it was made for PC, which is way more powerful than the switch, yet it ran perfectly fine with ~50 fps on high on my 10 year old PC, while the switch struggles to keep 30.

Granted, a lot of the monsters look like amalgamates of 2-3 Pokémon - but they looked good, like Katress, that fire-gyrados, even that Dragonite-Goodra-Altaria mix looks good IMO.

The world was generic, but unique enough to be explored - and it is too big for the amount of Pals that existed.

I had fun with Pokémon as well, but I only got to play the DLC after I finished Palworld. I did not catch the legendary turtle as of writing this comment because the game is just… boringly slow.

GeneralEmergency,

I don’t think you have played either Pokémon or Palworld. Because they have nothing in common.

4am,

Yeah that’s kind of the point.

(Also wtf are you smoking? “Travel the world collecting animals to be on your team” is the core concept)

GeneralEmergency,

One is an RPG and the other is a crafting survival,

Palworld is just ARK with the dinosaurs replaced by off brand Pokémon,

Glytch,

Except Palworld isn’t what you described. It’s "build a base and capture mons and people to out to work at your base so you can climb the tech tree and build guns to fight the boss mons

4am,

Yeah, ok? The fresh mechanics Pokemon has needed for a long time now. Also, still rounding up ‘mons to build a team to accomplish goal.

It was similar enough that Nintendo had to tell its fans to shut the hell up about it.

Palworld is the facelift Pokemon needed.

Glytch,

Stapling a survival crafter to a bad pokemon knockoff is not my idea of “fresh mechanics”.

thingsiplay, do gaming w Nearly 6 months later, Palworld devs confirm Nintendo never drew so much as an inch of its legal sword over bootleg Pokémon allegations

Nintendo should get sued for trolling. And if we are at it, sue Nintendo for using ideas and art styles from other games as well.

4am,

I don’t recall Nintendo trolling.

I do recall Nintendo, in the most polite and businesslike way possible, telling its incessant dickriders to stop flooding its communication channels with the breaking news that someone made a game with a Pokemon-adjacent concept.

KingThrillgore, (edited ) do gaming w Dr Disrespect fired by the game studio he co-founded: 'It is our duty to act with dignity on behalf of all individuals involved'
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

He also is “stepping away” for a while which I guess is code for “CAA can’t save me” so I guess in six months we get another conservative podcaster on X, and a new KiwiFarms thread for Hershel “Dr Disrespect” Beahm.

I have a pillow sack full of nickels at this point, which leads me to think we have a serious problem with streaming/youtubing as a career.

TheDarksteel94,

Eric? Isn’t his first name Guy?

pyre,

when is kick signing him?

MikeOToxin,

Pillow sack full of nickels for smackin’ paedos, I hope.

rustyfish, do gaming w Dr Disrespect fired by the game studio he co-founded: 'It is our duty to act with dignity on behalf of all individuals involved'
@rustyfish@lemmy.world avatar

It’s always the same with these kind of streamers. They either become decent people eventually or become pedos. There is no in between.

KingThrillgore, do gaming w Dr Disrespect fired by the game studio he co-founded: 'It is our duty to act with dignity on behalf of all individuals involved'
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

Boy there’s a strong correlation between being a streamer/YouTuber/online video creator and being a sex pest.

Laurentide,
@Laurentide@pawb.social avatar

I don’t think streamers and video creators are more likely to be sex pests. You’re just more likely to hear about a sex pest if their career involves trying to be seen by as many people as possible.

zbyte64,

IDK, it could be like with priests, where the job attracts a certain type because of the perks…

KingThrillgore,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

There is also the fact that a lot of streamers start young, with no guidance or mental development so they act on their worse impulses

AsherahTheEnd,

Actually I just think there are far more sex pests than you would hope, and they are literally everywhere. It’s very alarming.

wildcardology, do gaming w Dr Disrespect fired by the game studio he co-founded: 'It is our duty to act with dignity on behalf of all individuals involved'

I love how nickmercs defends him by saying that there’s no evidence but keeps accusing the LGBTQ of pedophilia without evidence.

Chozo,
@Chozo@fedia.io avatar

Nickmercs has always been a piece of shit. I feel like he's only ever stepped up to bat for his friends when they've actually done some heinous shit, so seeing his defense of Doc only further confirms my belief that he did it.

Nickmercs' support is an unexpected canary in this coal mine.

uhN0id,

It’s like when people that cheat on others in their relationships start accusing their partners of cheating or have major trust issues because of their guilt (or whatever it is). And by that same logic I conclude that Nickmercs is a pedo (if he can do it with the LGBTQ community without evidence then he wouldn’t mind me making similarly wild claims about him, right?).

muse, do gaming w Dr Disrespect fired by the game studio he co-founded: 'It is our duty to act with dignity on behalf of all individuals involved'
@muse@fedia.io avatar

HAH-HAH!

Ahh... I love the Find Out stage

sunzu, do gaming w Dr Disrespect fired by the game studio he co-founded: 'It is our duty to act with dignity on behalf of all individuals involved'

At least he got a YouTube career to fall back on.

wildcardology,

That’s the only thing he has left, and he most likely quit it too.

CommieCretzl, do gaming w Dr Disrespect fired by the game studio he co-founded: 'It is our duty to act with dignity on behalf of all individuals involved'
@CommieCretzl@hexbear.net avatar

Always the ones you least expect etc etc

Laurentide, do gaming w Dr Disrespect fired by the game studio he co-founded: 'It is our duty to act with dignity on behalf of all individuals involved'
@Laurentide@pawb.social avatar

Why am I not surprised that a guy who had a full crying meltdown over the existence of pronouns would turn out to be a pedo?

Habahnow, (edited )

Lol what are you talking about? any links or ways to find this?

EDIT: found it: sh.itjust.works/comment/12339443

Habahnow,

NVM found it. Damn doc is getting lamer the more you learn about him. ggrecon.com/…/dr-disrespect-calls-out-bethesda-ov…Basically, Starfield mentions your pronoun after character creation and mentions that you can change your pronoun if you like. Doc then looks up someone from Starfield or something looking for their pronouns in the company website. He then says “Its all starting to make sense” in such a way that shows his disapproval of that option being in the game.

Its not some crazy event, but it just adds another thing to a pile of things that show he’s kind of a crappy person. Starfield had mentioned they didn’t want to partner with him due to the previous twitch controversy, I feel his continued actions (getting pissy over this option, that he could completely ignore) really proves Starfield’s decision was a good one.

Laurentide,
@Laurentide@pawb.social avatar

Oh, sorry, I had the wrong guy. I was thinking of Dan Vasc, whose red-faced screaming meltdown is embedded in the article you linked. Must have gotten the names mixed up.

Let me try this again.

Why am I not surprised that the guy who turned out to be a pedo also gets upset about other people having pronouns?

GnuLinuxDude,
@GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml avatar

I forgot about this but as soon as you said red-faced it came back to me. This “adult” became a tomato because he could choose to be referred to as he/him in a video game. I only ever saw toddlers and small children scream the way he did. So pathetic!

Habahnow,

Lol I looked that one up. That was most definitely a meltdown as well LOL.

ThePantser, do gaming w Dr Disrespect fired by the game studio he co-founded: 'It is our duty to act with dignity on behalf of all individuals involved'
@ThePantser@lemmy.world avatar

Idk who this Magnum PI wannabe is and at this point I don’t give a shit.

Itdidnttrickledown, do gaming w Dr Disrespect fired by the game studio he co-founded: 'It is our duty to act with dignity on behalf of all individuals involved'

These shock jock types always seem to nuke themselves in the end. That guy looks like the weekly bad guy on a episode of Starsky and Hutch from the 70’s

moody,

That guy looks like the weekly bad guy on a episode of Starsky and Hutch from the 70’s

You’re not wrong, but that’s also just a persona he plays, the hair and mustache are both fake. I don’t know how close the persona is to the real person, but I’m sure he’s hamming it up to some extent, just not enough to be a good person pretending.

driving_crooner,
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

The persona is the real person. When he take out the hair, the mask is put on.

wildcardology,

I’m pretty sure the stash is real though.

SkyezOpen,

The persona is barely fake, which is why he always rubbed me the wrong way. Like yeah a hyper macho gamer can be a funny ironic persona, but when you’re legitimately Gamer Raging TM on stream, you’re just doing the thing. Not surprised he turned out to be a piece of shit a while ago. Mildly surprised he was a pedo, though I didn’t notice his right-wing tendencies so that’s on me.

brsrklf, do gaming w Xbox executives just cannot give a straight answer to questions about Tango Gameworks

Until they give a “better” reason, I am going to assume the one they hinted at is true, and Microsoft just decided that it was worthless because it wasn’t “Mikami’s studio” anymore. Honestly, I already suspected it.

In which case, fuck them. These games were not made by one person, a studio is bigger than its director. And the rest of them didn’t get even one chance to prove themselves.

Truly shows how little they value the people who make their games.

thesporkeffect, do gaming w Xbox executives just cannot give a straight answer to questions about Tango Gameworks

Left unsaid: the developers were starting to ask for more money and creative freedom than MS was willing to give, and had to be taught a lesson.

Also the market demands sacrifices.

mojofrododojo,
@mojofrododojo@lemmy.world avatar

Left unsaid: the developers were starting to ask for more money and creative freedom than MS was willing to give, and had to be taught a lesson.

is there any evidence of this? It would give MS an excuse, which makes me wonder

BasketKees,

If that were true, ‘No’ is also an answer. Total Annihilation does not seem like the only option and certainly not an option to use as a lesson. Can’t teach a dead pupil.

Anticorp, do gaming w "Valve is being sued in the UK for $843 million for 'overcharging 14 million PC gamers and abusing its dominant position' with Steam"

And the people who were overcharged will get how much of the settlement? $2?

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