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metaStatic, do gaming w 'None of this makes any sense': Amazon's latest MMO import is a localization disaster
@metaStatic@kbin.earth avatar

I bounced hard off Lost Ark

me too brother

tacosanonymous, do gaming w 'None of this makes any sense': Amazon's latest MMO import is a localization disaster
@tacosanonymous@lemm.ee avatar

Why won’t more reviews call shitty games, “pasghetti ass?”

SteevyT, do gaming w 'None of this makes any sense': Amazon's latest MMO import is a localization disaster

Why do the worst games produce the most amazing reviews?

sp3tr4l,

… Its’s Big Whale Day!

Amazing.

Albbi,

I nudged my sliders until all the important factors—tear duct length, tear duct height, skin glossiness, etc—were where I needed them to be, and then hit the “randomize appearance” button a few times for good measure. Then, I booted my creation out the door and into life.

Did I write and publish it this while sleepwalking or something?

Nuke_the_whales, do gaming w Switch emulator Ryujinx goes offline due to pressure from Nintendo.

Why are people pretending Nintendo is the bad guy cause they shut down an emulator of their current gen console??

Skipcast,

Because emulators are entirely legal and doesn’t facilitate piracy on their own

Nuke_the_whales,

Wild claims with no sources. People who can run switch emulators are 1000% pirating games, don’t be obtuse.

And legal or not, if someone replicated a free version of your device, you’d be pissed too.

Rampsquatch,

1000%

Got a source for that wild claim?

Old_Yharnam,

Of course they dont, its a stupid claim

MajorasMaskForever,

Combination of anti large company sentiment + people feeling entitled to get things for free if I had to guess. It also usually feels wrong when a corporation threatens a lawsuit over a single person since the US court system heavily favors the person with more money and it’s probably a true statement to say that Nintendo has more resources than the lead dev.

Modern Vintage Gamer on YouTube had an interesting take in that by stifling emulator development now it will hurt the industry in the long run because Switch exclusives will become increasingly difficult to play once support ends (an argument I myself don’t find all that compelling)

Nerrel on YouTube has a well put together and researched video on emulation where at least in the US it’s been tested in court several times that emulators are legal, but obtaining the code for the emulators to run is almost always not since you usually have to make a copy and that violates the publisher’s right to copy

Old_Yharnam,

Its mostly for game preservation

Mixel, do gaming w Switch emulator Ryujinx goes offline due to pressure from Nintendo.

Honestly I am tired of Nintendo I cant buy any games of them while they keep up this behavior this is unacceptable, at least for yuzu there was a minimal reasoning this is just a thread to begin with

ryven, do gaming w New Deadlock anti-cheat update lets players turn cheaters into frogs.
@ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I wonder if I can make a cheat that doesn’t do anything but turn myself into a frog…

GaMEChld, do games w Nintendo's lawsuit against Palworld isn't just bad for the industry, it's bad for Nintendo

I for one am a lifelong Nintendo customer that has finally decided to boycott them moving forward. Plenty of other companies to support.

Kowowow, do gaming w New Deadlock anti-cheat update lets players turn cheaters into frogs.

“you are dead frog not big surprise”

qooqie, do gaming w New Deadlock anti-cheat update lets players turn cheaters into frogs.

Icefrog always subtly forcing his visage into any game he works on smh /s

CarbonIceDragon, do gaming w New Deadlock anti-cheat update lets players turn cheaters into frogs.
@CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social avatar

Seems like it might carry the slight risk of someone cheating to intentionally become a frog for the lols?

JCreazy,

Doesn’t it permaban after the match?

warm,

Yes, can vote to either end the game immediately and ban them or turn them into a frog for the rest of the match.

Zahille7,

Now people are gonna want a “froggers” (like “Fraggers”) mode.

kinther, do games w Nintendo's lawsuit against Palworld isn't just bad for the industry, it's bad for Nintendo
@kinther@lemmy.world avatar

They could have bought the game out and lumped it into their existing games. Alternate dimension Pokémon anyone?

Snowpix,
@Snowpix@lemmy.ca avatar

And let another IP fall to a large corporation? No thanks.

kinther,
@kinther@lemmy.world avatar

They’re going to get sued into oblivion, so that’s one alternative path forward.

phx,

Meh. Even small corps often do something well once and then fall to the wayside.Nintendo has been pretty good at recreating their core IP, whether it’s the 3D version of Metroid on GC or open-world Zelda on Switch.

If they’d actually bought out the Palworld IP (assuming that was an available option) that would have meant cash for the devs and a way to work with it in a way that was unique but inclusive to the Pokemon franchise. A lot of people are getting tired of the latter because it has become rather stagnant, but the new mechanics with the official Pokemon characters/stats/etc could have benefitted both

Nintendo doesn’t do that though. They don’t go “wow, this looks cool and there’s real interest. Maybe we could work with the dev and make it an official product. They’ve done most of the work already!” It’s lawsuits all the way

gibmiser, do gaming w New Deadlock anti-cheat update lets players turn cheaters into frogs.

I’m calling it now. In 15 years the word frog will be synonymous with cheater

Irremarkable,
@Irremarkable@fedia.io avatar

I don't think that's the most likely outcome, but I could definitely see it happening and actively am hoping for it.

SpacetimeMachine,

“actively hopping for it”

FTFY

RenardDesMers,

Poor frogs…

Nuke_the_whales, do games w Nintendo's lawsuit against Palworld isn't just bad for the industry, it's bad for Nintendo

I don’t understand. So if I make a video game and my main character is an Italian plumber who wears red and blue, jumps on mushroom people and grows when he eats a mushroom, and Nintendo sues me. Nintendo is wrong? Or are we pretending palworld isn’t “Pokemon with guns” which was literally what people were pushing it as

ayyy,

Step 1: learn the difference between trademarks and patents. Then we can have a meaningful discussion.

Nuke_the_whales,

Oh I’m sorry Lemmy lawyer. I didn’t know we needed a law degree to comment on threads

ayyy,

That’s not what I said at all. I gave you very helpful information to put you on the path of understanding this case.

x00za,

The problem is that the fans of Palworld are actually fans of Pokemon and they will defend it like a Pokemon game.

Pika,
@Pika@sh.itjust.works avatar

the problem is, palworld isn’t “pokemon with guns”, they used that slogan originally sure, but palworld 100% shows more similar mechanics and concepts to ark then pokemon, it’s a mix of pokemon style mechanics and Arks RPG mechanics. I would say they had a stronger suit against trademark than they did mechanics side.

The only game mechanic similarity between the two is the ball capture system and the fact that it’s called a trainer/leader when you battle the NPC’s anything else is already present in other games.

By this logic, any game that features the ability to tame or capture monsters would be a pokemon clone. That’s far too broad of a category to allow as a patent if challenged. I personally believe it will result in them losing the patent as a whole if it is that patent they are fighting with.

Nuke_the_whales,

Anyways, it’s very very clear what game palworld took it’s creature design from. So I don’t think the lawsuit is as silly as the Nintendo haters insist

Pika,
@Pika@sh.itjust.works avatar

that would be a trademark or copyright suit not a patent suit. Patents are strictly mechanics, they didn’t sue on design, I agree I think they had a better case on that, but the Nintendo lawyers decided otherwise

Lev_Astov,
@Lev_Astov@lemmy.world avatar

In the US, Atari tried to sue someone who made an Asteroids clone back in 1981 and lost because Meteors, the clone had made some improvements on the idea of Asteroids (color, among other things). This cemented US legal precedent that you can’t sue people for “ripping off” games so long as they make some meaningful change to it and aren’t just making a direct knock-off.

This current case is in Japan, however, where the legal landscape is very different and companies need to be legally aggressive to maintain any rights to their IP from what I understand. I have no idea how that’s going to go down.

morphballganon,

“Catch creatures to use to fight” is a broad enough theme that it should be fair use, and has other precedent. For example, it was done in Bomberman Generation. Why didn’t Nintendo sue Konami?

BmeBenji, do gaming w The Day Before studio returns from the dead and asks for a 'second chance': 'From now on, our development and marketing will be based on the principle of honesty'

From now on

Just like they said yesterday!

Novamdomum, do games w Nintendo's lawsuit against Palworld isn't just bad for the industry, it's bad for Nintendo
@Novamdomum@fedia.io avatar

I think the thing that's the most confusing about this is why did they wait??

"The timing is particularly baffling: Nintendo did not strike when the iron was hot and everyone was talking about Palworld and Pokémon, and at this late date, why bother? The greatest heights of Palworld's success were clearly driven by the memetic catchiness of its Pokémon parody, now it's just another survival crafting game with a stable enough core community⁠—see also Valheim or Sons of the Forest. Palword has faded into the background, a brief curiosity overshadowed by 2024's far more enduring megahit, Helldivers 2. Just in time for everyone to have largely forgotten about Palworld and moved on, Nintendo has swooped in to announce: "In case you've forgotten, they're the little guy, and we are huge, awful bullies."

Palworld has reportedly made nearly $500 million now (source - Simon Carless). Even if Nintendo win in some way won't it cost them so much more to take Pocket Pair down now?

ColeSloth,

To maximize profits and costs they can go after, and to be a bit less on the radar of the public eye. Now that palworld is essentially done making money, Nintendo can go after that amount.

Say it is the throwing spheres that Nintendo is basing the suit off of. If Nintendo tried suing in the midst of its popularity, palworld could have just switched the capture system to like a special gun or cubes or something. Nintendo wanted to wait in order to financially crush them into dust.

burgersc12,
@burgersc12@mander.xyz avatar

They waited until they could file a few new patents, namely the catching and mounting mechanisms. Now they have a bit more legal standing it seems, although I’m not sure how this is all gonna shake out

pennomi,

Patents filed after your rival releases a product don’t work - it’s textbook prior art.

burgersc12, (edited )
@burgersc12@mander.xyz avatar

Not sure how it works in Japan but you’re probably right. Edit: Was thinking about this article that lays out the known details pretty well

CheeseNoodle,

I remember reading that Japan is very weird in regards to patent law, there’s almost no oversight whatsoever even for incredibly basic concepts like a title screen but there’s kind of a general agreement not to sue eachother. Assuming thats true Nintendo is currently burning a lot of face right now by breaking that precident.

Killer,

They aren’t “new” patents. They’re divisional patents, essentially splitting an older patent into two different patents that retain the date of the parent patent.

Either way this is a pretty scummy move on Nintendo’s part.

CaptPretentious, (edited )

I’m going to patent the crap out of everything.

Like if you push a button in the direction your character is facing you move in that direction. I’m going to patent that shit.

Then I’m going to patent that if you push button and the opposite direction of your character, if it’s a 3D game you turn around. And then I have ab separate patent with having the character walk backwards.

I’ll just take the absolute piss out of the most basic things and absolutely everything I can find. And then throw a bunch of frivolous patent lawsuits at Nintendo.

I know it’s petty. But maybe Nintendo, like many other corporations in the gaming industry, have just been around maybe a little too long and have lost the vision and the purpose. Cuz at this point Nintendo’s not even trying. But they are heavily relying on nostalgia for sales. They’re more known for being a litigious company than a gaming company.

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