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SaltySalamander, do games w On the prospect of an $80-$90 GTA 6, former PlayStation boss says 'it's an impossible equation' for big-budget studios to keep their prices down

Eh, this game was never in the cards for me anyway. I decided years ago to never give Rockstar another dime when they didn't release any single player DLC for GTA5. Fuck that noise.

PP_BOY_,

Wut? We’re mad now about not getting DLC? GTA V was a great game that’s still a blast today. I spent many evenings in front of my PS3 playing the single player for years, never touched GTA: O once and never felt the need to and still believe I got my $60 back in 2013 out of it.

Similar story with RDR 2. Unless GTA 6 is a huge step down from both those games in single-player playability (I’ll wait for reviews obv), I’m not going to lose much sleep over spending $20 more than I spent 13 years ago for the previous game.

caseofthematts,

If I’m remembering correctly, they had announced single player DLC bit instead just chose to develop more multiplayer stuff since that’s where the big bucks are. I’m busy and don’t have a source right now, but can attempt to find this later and edit as necessary.

thatKamGuy,

GTA V was originally planned to have a number of single-player DLC campaigns akin to the ‘Lost and the Damned’ and ‘Ballad of Gay Tony’ for GTA IV.

This is what people - including me - are bitter about; the immense financial success of GTA:O (namely Shark cards) diverted all resources away from additional single-player content.

I wouldn’t have minded paying for an additional perspective campaign (like GTA IV) or an additional post-campaign chapter heist. GTA V was a complete experience at launch, so additional DLC content would have been welcomed by the community - DLC only becomes problematic when it is clearly part of the core experience, but arbitrarily removed in order to charge more.

Unfortunately, due to having to prioritise shareholder returns - investing resources into anything beyond the most immediately profitable route (ie. online) leaves the board and C-suite open to litigation, because as we should have all learned by now from this series, Capitalism will ultimately ruin everything in search for more and more profits.

Drbreen,

Lol never seen anyone upset that a publisher put all the games content into the base game.

caut_R, do games w On the prospect of an $80-$90 GTA 6, former PlayStation boss says 'it's an impossible equation' for big-budget studios to keep their prices down

The kinda prices a Mario Kart, Pokemon, or GTA can maybe ask for. Try that on a Star Wars Outlaws and the sales nosedive, I reckon.

I think the industry is gonna try to normalize these prices and crash pretty hard, cause they’ll budget their productions thinking they can sell for 90 bucks but forget they‘re neither GTA nor Mario Kart.

Then again, Dynasty Warriors Origins is 79 on Steam, I wonder how that performed for KOEI.

LostWanderer, do games w On the prospect of an $80-$90 GTA 6, former PlayStation boss says 'it's an impossible equation' for big-budget studios to keep their prices down

ROFL the more games go $80 to 90 dollars for a base game version, the more I wait for sales. 70 dollars was bad enough in my opinion, but this greed fueled jump is going to put off more potential buyers than it will bring in. It’s my genuine hope that this blows up in their face and will force them to price games reasonably again. Perhaps if the money they made in sales wasn’t mostly funneled into their overpaid CEOs and shareholders, perhaps they’d have more money to cover development costs and keep game prices stable. Sounds like a personal problem to me.

CallateCoyote, do games w On the prospect of an $80-$90 GTA 6, former PlayStation boss says 'it's an impossible equation' for big-budget studios to keep their prices down
@CallateCoyote@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah? I’ll buy it when it’s on sale for $35 and they’ll profit, so it’s all good. Patience is a virtue and all that.

newthrowaway20, do games w On the prospect of an $80-$90 GTA 6, former PlayStation boss says 'it's an impossible equation' for big-budget studios to keep their prices down

If you really want me to pay $100 for a game, you gotta raise the bar to the fuckin stratosphere compared to what we’re getting now.

And get me a damn raise.

KoboldCoterie,
@KoboldCoterie@pawb.social avatar

And also knock it off with the fucking microtransactions and shit. I wouldn’t mind games costing something appropriate for inflation if we were getting complete, high quality games without the expectation that we spend even more money afterwards. As it stands, they’re complaining about the low cost of games while also milking players for every penny they can on top of the purchase price. Fuck these guys.

pm_me_anime_thighs,

Precisely this. If Baldur’s Gate 3 was 100$, I still would have bought it in a heartbeat because I know that the developers are never gonna ask for any more of my money.

zurohki,

Sorry, best we can do is microtransactions, fear of missing out and AI slop. That’ll be $90.

But_my_mom_says_im_cool,

I would say gta is one of the only few games I would pay that much for and I know I’ll get my moneys worth, but I’m not interested in gta online. I wish we could get story dlc like we did with gta 4

Binky, do games w On the prospect of an $80-$90 GTA 6, former PlayStation boss says 'it's an impossible equation' for big-budget studios to keep their prices down

That’s such bullshit. GTA5 has been a money printing machine. They would have been profitable if the cost started and stayed at $20.

DannyBoy,

I can’t find the numbers online but they probably could’ve given GTA5 away for free and made a profit.

Forester,

They did give it away for free and make a profit

whostosay,

They did both, and it could fund the next 5 GTA games for 500 years and still turn a profit if they never took another cent. Whatever this “journalism” is, delete it, block it, and forget about it. They are the enemy.

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

They would have profited making GTA:O free to play, right from the get go.

finitebanjo,

NBA 2K24 also outperformed expectations.

creamlike504, do games w On the prospect of an $80-$90 GTA 6, former PlayStation boss says 'it's an impossible equation' for big-budget studios to keep their prices down

Shame on Harvey Randall for platforming executive bullshit:

The problem, he puts it, is inflation. Which is an unerringly boring but also correct answer: “We live in contrasting times, where inflation is real and significant, but people expect games that are ever more ambitious and therefore expensive to develop to cost the same. It’s an impossible equation.”

They’re not responding to the expectations of the people; they’re responding to the expectations of their investors.

otacon239, do games w On the prospect of an $80-$90 GTA 6, former PlayStation boss says 'it's an impossible equation' for big-budget studios to keep their prices down

Absolutely no way Take-Two can afford anything less than $5B in profit every year. The stock market was a mistake.

givesomefucks, do games w On the prospect of an $80-$90 GTA 6, former PlayStation boss says 'it's an impossible equation' for big-budget studios to keep their prices down

As of a year ago, GTA 5 had made over $9,000,000,000.

That’s a billion with a B.

Mostly off micro transactions to children.

They don’t need to charge $90, but if people will pay it, they’ll charge it.

Dremor, do games w The Hundred Line: Last Defense Academy has 100 endings, and it's pushing the creators to the brink of bankruptcy | PC Gamer
@Dremor@lemmy.world avatar

Could you please reword the headline for it to be less clickbaity ? Thanks.

Fallstar,

Done

Dremor,
@Dremor@lemmy.world avatar

Looks good.

SmoothOperator, do games w The Hundred Line: Last Defense Academy has 100 endings, and it's pushing the creators to the brink of bankruptcy | PC Gamer

The game is The Hundred Line: Last Defense Academy

Chewbaccabra, do games w The Hundred Line: Last Defense Academy has 100 endings, and it's pushing the creators to the brink of bankruptcy | PC Gamer

Is it a requirement to use exact headlines? Repeating a clickbait headline on lemmy seems crazy to me.

AwesomeLowlander,

Is it clickbait if it’s a pretty accurate summary, though?

bob_omb_battlefield,

Yes. It’s clickbait because it doesn’t tell you the name of the game.

AwesomeLowlander,

Huh. I guess that’s a matter of perspective? I wasn’t interested in the name, and even after reading the article I don’t recall what the name was. I just found the story interesting.

Coelacanth,
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I don’t really think it’s a matter of perspective. These sites all omit the title of whatever thing it is they’re talking about so you have to click through to find out. They do it because research has shown it works to increase clicks. That is well within the definition of clickbait.

AwesomeLowlander,

I mean, whether it works as clickbait depends on your perspective. I don’t disagree it may be intended that way, it just didn’t hit that way for me in particular.

BossDj,

If it follows clickbait pattern it is clickbait, whether you personally felt baited or not

Writing “This game” instead of the game’s name has literally only one possible intention.

Fallstar,

No, just laziness.

prole, do games w The Hundred Line: Last Defense Academy has 100 endings, and it's pushing the creators to the brink of bankruptcy | PC Gamer

This game is pretty good. If you like Danganronpa and tactical RPGs, then this will be right up your alley.

Goretantath,

Oh wait its a tactical rpg!? And they ate putting all these endings in it!? vomits blood

prole,

It’s like part-visual novel (gameplay and artwork similar to the Danganronpa series if you’re familiar), and part tactical RPG. There seems to be a sort of board game type thing too? I only really just started the game and I think its still in the process of unveiling mechanics.

RightHandOfIkaros, do games w The Hundred Line: Last Defense Academy has 100 endings, and it's pushing the creators to the brink of bankruptcy | PC Gamer

Can we talk about how cancerous PCGamer is, for a second? I want to read an article, and the screen is like 80% advertising.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/9985fa5d-574a-46b2-a78a-d21876656e8f.png

HeerlijkeDrop,

I don't get any ads (Fennec + uBlock), but half into the article, a newsletter pop up showed up and the website scrolled back to the top. I closed the website immediately

drspod,

The irony is that if we didn’t have the tracking scripts blocked then they might actually receive the metrics about how we close their website as soon as the newsletter popup occurs, leading them to fix or remove it. Probably not though.

BossDj,

I don’t think Lemmy users are representative of their target demographic. The vast majority of people seem to just put up with ads

Artyom,

https://lemm.ee/pictrs/image/8b4fecd7-4e6f-4d1e-8d36-43f028c58e68.jpeg

Looks like a skill issue. I didn’t see any of those things when I opened the link.

Fallstar,

Firefox Focus rise up

Nikls94,
Arcane2077,

You must not have adguard set up properly (maybe some of your blocklists are disabled or unupdated?).

No ads or popups on my end

PieMePlenty,

Ads, I can block. The shitty part of the site are the unrelated things getting shoved in the middle of the article.
https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/111d028b-36a3-43ed-912d-0537396680e0.jpeghttps://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/e2015eca-922a-43e9-9ead-9fc96024cca3.jpeg

Cris16228,
PieMePlenty,

Good tip. I always forget I can do this and block specific elements if I want.

Speculater,
@Speculater@lemmy.world avatar

Reader mode in Firefox fixed it.

BossDj, (edited )

I love reader mode. I Use it to bypass pay walls, too Did someone say something?

youronlyone,
@youronlyone@c.im avatar

@BossDj @Speculater 🤫 It's a secret. 🤐

TowardsTheFuture, do games w The Hundred Line: Last Defense Academy has 100 endings, and it's pushing the creators to the brink of bankruptcy | PC Gamer

I mean… I can’t imagine it being that much more expensive than Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous? Idk if this is a management issue or a funding issue or what. But it sounds cool so I mean I’ll maybe check it out at least

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