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quinten, do games w The recent criticism of Linus Tech Tips, explained
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In addition:

A thread from a former LMG-employee about abuse and insane working conditions:

twitter.com/suuuoppp/status/1691693740254228741

twistedtxb, (edited )
@twistedtxb@lemmy.ca avatar

Thanks for sharing, this is absolutely INSANE. Far worse than everything pointed by GN.

Zron,

GN sticks to tech news, and I respect that that Steve sticks to his area of expertise when it comes to reporting on issues in the tech field. LTT has repeatedly shown glaring errors in their testing, and that’s what was reported on by GN.

The staff and professional issues the company faces are for an entirely different style of journalism, and I do hope someone picks up that story.

Linus has always struck me as someone who would be kinda cool to be friends with, but the worst person to be your boss. He can be arrogant, dismissive of employee ideas, and penny pinching. I’ve seen it time and time again in videos where he participates, and it’s always rubbed me the wrong way. I only hope the people who faced discrimination and burnout at LTT are in better places now and have found ways to let their obvious expertise shine.

I also hope one of these employees can summon the strength to report LMG to the relevant Canadian authorities for their blatant abuse of their employees. No matter the “opportunities” and employer offers, or the “contracts” they make employees sign, workers have rights, and their should be a reckoning when those rights are violated.

Buddahriffic,

Yeah, Canada is not the country to fuck with people’s rights in. Many still do, of course, but if they actually fight back companies will usually be willing to give 5 figures once their lawyers get word of what’s happening, in hopes of avoiding the 6 or 7 figure judgement that the courts might give them.

Btw, if you want to learn about your rights, take a course meant to train HR people. It’s their job to protect the company and they need to know where the lines are to do so effectively.

Kovu,
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Don’t wanna say I was expecting it but I was always kinda waiting for “something” to come out of ltt. A bunch of tech bros in their 30s still making penis and 69 jokes every video doesn’t seem like a good environment lmao

Buddahriffic,

Yeah enough of their company culture had leaked into their videos and through some of the things Linus had said that I wasn’t really that surprised to see that thread. The power imbalance was thrown around for jokes and Linus comes off as a stingy bastard who will spend a ton of money in some places and then complain about a relatively trivial expense elsewhere. And the way he talks about it implies that he thinks everyone sees it that way.

Dashmaybe,

Could you/anyone take a screenshot of the tweets for us non-twitter users?

jnoliv,

You can read the whole thread here: threadreaderapp.com/thread/1691693740254228741

GBU_28, do games w The recent criticism of Linus Tech Tips, explained

Who fucking cares? Stop consuming their content and they are gone

glibg10b, (edited ) do games w The recent criticism of Linus Tech Tips, explained

I think this article misrepresents things. They left out the worst stuff.

secret301,

Journalism is dead and I hate seeing people post this shit instead of the actual source. There’s no other way to get information

Zuberi,
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TLDR?

Metal_Zealot, (edited ) do games w The recent criticism of Linus Tech Tips, explained
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  • Zuberi,
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    :(

    FoxBJK, do games w The recent criticism of Linus Tech Tips, explained
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    Linus really doesn’t respond well to criticism. He’s trying to act like a sale and an auction are 2 different things? If some hardware vendor tried to feed him that excuse he’d devote a whole video to it! Hell, if someone had sold one of his screwdriver prototypes he’d probably have thrown a fit and sued (as is his right)!

    He’s picking quantity of videos over quality, so stuff like this is only going to accelerate.

    blargerer,

    Ignoring everything else, because other accusations seem to have more credibility, although a charity auction is certainly a type of sale, sale has completely different connotations than charity auction when devoid of context. It's a fair issue for them to have and raise.

    Carighan,
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    Both share the actually relevant bit: The item went from LTT having it to them not having it, having not given it back to the owners either.

    FoxBJK,
    @FoxBJK@midwest.social avatar

    No it’s not. It’s not how the item got out of LTT’s hands that the issue here. It’s that LTT didn’t return a fucking prototype! Sold, lost, melted down, really doesn’t matter. If I’m making products and want to send one to LMG for a review, I’m insisting on him paying a hefty deposit first, because he clearly can’t be trusted.

    shipoopi,

    I see this as a “you’re technically right, there is a legal difference; BUT the issue here is not how it was passed to someone else and not returned to the owners, but that it happened at all” type deal.

    Zron,

    Does billet have their prototype back?

    No.

    The wording doesn’t matter. Call it an auction, sale, donation, grand theft, whatever you want. But that the end of the day, a small company now no longer has access to their expensive prototype. That’s very damaging to them as a business, let alone the damage that LTT caused to Billet’s image by their haphazard review process. Billet has every right to sue for damages over this, and I personally think they should.

    GrammatonCleric, do games w The recent criticism of Linus Tech Tips, explained
    @GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world avatar

    WTF does this have to do with gaming?

    mothersprotege,

    Seriously. This doesn’t belong here. I don’t know why PCG is wading into some youtuber controversy that seems to have only the most tenuous connection to their bailiwick.

    imPastaSyndrome, do games w The recent criticism of Linus Tech Tips, explained

    Geez what a bunch of assholes

    Carighan,
    @Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

    Well yeah, LTT has long gone fully corporate. This was a problem years ago already, it was just always weird seeing so many flock to their channel when it was clearly a rote production like a 15 years ongoing weekly crime drama, not an actual tech channel.

    Their production value is often stellar, don’t get me wrong. But that’s it. That’s all they have. It’s all about optimizing the production to maximize ad revenue.

    ydieb, (edited )

    Imo, any large company, even if started hardcore by linus and luke (and co), will always in the end be mostly created by all the employees.

    The ownership of any large company should imo always be gradually moved over to the people who work there.

    Worker coops are not a silver bullet and will always be corruptible in any way any other democracy can, but at least it has the possibility to be proper, in contrast to strict founder / investor ownership where you are at their mercy.

    Voyajer,
    @Voyajer@lemmy.world avatar

    LMG becoming an ESOP would be an interesting development if implemented properly.

    exu,

    If they just focused on the drama and fun stuff there would be no issue imo. The weirder videos are sometimes fun to kill time, but it’s clear they’re making a lot of mistakes (look at any server video by them).
    Trying to provide accurate and in-depth reviews really isn’t their strong suit.

    Evolushan,

    I fully agree. But that’s the thing, if you don’t consider LTT as a tech channel anymore, like GN or whatever, it’s fine. I now consider LTT as pure entertainment, I will never go to them to actually buy a PC or a tech product. For that I go to forums, I watch multiple reviews, etc. And if the production value is all they have, I’ll just watch it like a show with actors that are - well - acting.

    I’m not trying to defend LTT, what they did was shite and I feel that they should be held accountable. But let’s compare apples with apples, LTT isn’t a tech channel anymore.

    Belazor,

    This is how I feel about LTT too. There should never be one single location you go to for all your review needs - even if it had every single product in existence in for review.

    I’ll look at LTT videos to see people doing dumb shit with tens of thousands of Britannian Monies worth of tech, sometimes there’s some genuinely good “hey, this exists” (see: PowerToys which gave me Spotlight on Windows), and sometimes it triggers a “hey I could use X, I’ll do my own research and collation of reviews”.

    If they can get their Labs up and running and their tests being transparent enough that they can be peer reviewed, then Labs will be a tool in the toolbox, not the toolbox itself.

    Nacktmull, do games w The recent criticism of Linus Tech Tips, explained

    Who? Never mind, I don´t care anyway …

    blunderworld,

    Careful you dont cut yourself on that edge.

    Sethayy,

    Yeah imagine them opening this thread just to tell us how much they didn’t want to lmao.

    Nacktmull,

    Sorry, I was too indirect it seems. This was just my way to state that the topic seems to get blown out of proportion.

    Pxtl, (edited ) do games w The recent criticism of Linus Tech Tips, explained
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    Honestly, after the allegations on Xitter, I think it’s time for Linus to not just post apology videos but actually take a leave of absence. He’s the problem and he needs to admit that to himself. Bring in experts on fixing a broken company culture, reorg the company, let those experts fire some problem people, go take some classes on leadership full-time, and come back in a few months and just be a talking head at his company. No leadership at all.

    Either way I’m done with them now. Maybe not forever, but I’m not giving them any benefit of the doubt for a very long time.

    jkmooney, do games w The recent criticism of Linus Tech Tips, explained
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    I'm not really that familiar with LTT. I did subscribe to his channel, mainly because I was bemused by him borking his PC by rushing an install of Pop_OS and Steam. ("yes, do as I say", if you recall). Reading the PC Gamer article, it appears he did the same, "just drive on without thinking it through" approach to this prototype cooler. I haven't watched a lot of his videos and anyone can make a mistake but, there is an expectation that a "tech expert" show a bit of diligence. Plus, if he's showcasing a vendor, he should make sure they have every chance to shine.
    .
    .....this guy is starting to look like a poser now....

    HellAwaits,

    …this guy is starting to look like a poser now…

    Not starting, always has been

    Pxtl, (edited )
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    imho, what’s happened at LTT has a few separate root causes:

    1. A focus on extremely high output that means poor-quality work and poor working environment.
    2. Extreme unprofessionalism that works okay when you’re a handful of guys who are close friends and all personally invested in the mission, but not when you’re a big company with communication problems across the various working groups. This is normal growing pains when a company moves from “nimble start-up” into “big production”, but Linus has been handling it really badly, and seems like a big part of the problem. Stepping back from the CEO role was a good first step but he’s obviously still de-facto running the company.

    I can’t call Linus a poser since he and his team quite apparently know a massive amount about PC hardware, but the above factors mean they’re going to make near-constant screw-ups, and now they’re seeing real comeuppance from that.

    edit: I just read the rest of the allegations on Xitter and holy shit this is worse than I thought. She really buried the lede. It’s still “unprofessionalism” but a level of unprofessionalism that totally crosses the line far beyond normal growing pains. Flubbing workplace sexual harassment is a serious leadership fuckup.

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