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KuroiKaze, do games w I hate when a PC game is ONLY available on Epic Games store

Gee maybe you should sue epic and make them carry other stores apps and not lock in their payment system and allow downloading steam from their store for giga karma.

Mango, do games w I hate when a PC game is ONLY available on Epic Games store

Exclusivity is stupid for everything but sex partners.

Zahtu, do games w I hate when a PC game is ONLY available on Epic Games store

What about Windows Store 😏

Nikls94,

It seems you don’t know, but we don’t talk about that

Xylight, do games w I hate when a PC game is ONLY available on Epic Games store
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If there’s an epic games game you want but don’t want to use the epic launcher or you’re on Linux, Heroic Games launcher id a good choice

Eternal192, do games w I hate when a PC game is ONLY available on Epic Games store

Just wait till it’s on GOG or Steam, no game is worth the hassle of Epic Games store.

HawlSera, (edited ) do games w I hate when a PC game is ONLY available on Epic Games store

Steam: If a game is not in our records

GOG: Or ours

Both: Then it doesn’t exist

scholar,

Me with my physical CDs of games you can’t get digitally…

InputZero,

Just doing some napkin math, if you took Baulders Gate 3 and burned the entire game to CDs, it would require a stack of CDs around one meter tall. That’s no mods, just the game.

MufinMcFlufin,

I also did some napkin math on it and got a very different number. I don’t have the game so I saw people reporting the game is 150GB on PC. CDs can store up to 700MB of data, so (150 x 1024) / 700 ≈ 219.4 but we can round that up to 220. The standard CD is 1.2mm in thickness, so 220 x 1.2mm = 264mm which is a quarter of a meter.

I’m curious how my result differed from yours.

InputZero,

I screwed up my units a bit and did gigabytes and megabits. You’re right. It would be a little shorter than an average ruler.

Grandwolf319, (edited ) do games w I hate when a PC game is ONLY available on Epic Games store

So I own some games on epic store cause they were free and I said fuck it I’ll sign up for free games.

Haven’t installed the epic games store yet, and it’s been years. The benefits don’t outweigh the drawbacks, clearly.

xavier666,

I use Heroic and got all their free games. I also have Prime so I get more free games on Epic. But Hell will freeze over before I buy a game on Epic.

bitwolf,

Same.
And I hope they can see I’m not even interested in their free games.

Underwaterbob, do games w I hate when a PC game is ONLY available on Epic Games store

I don’t mind. Fewer choices. It’s only on Epic? It doesn’t exist.

ICastFist, do games w I hate when a PC game is ONLY available on Epic Games store
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Available on both Apple and Google stores? That’s a near instant pass to me, too.

HawlSera,

They say: “Sonic Dream Team is an Apple Arcade Exclvusive, maybe we’ll do a port one day if our contract allows” I hear: “Sonic Dream Team is in devleopment hell and may never be released”

CoCo_Goldstein, (edited ) do games w I hate when a PC game is ONLY available on Epic Games store

Other than Fortnite, what game is only available on Epic?

Edit: Thanks for the responses!!

Bartlebad,

During their early access days Hades and I believe Satisfactory were only on Epic.

Raab,

Metro, borderlands, basically any game that Epic pays to have exclusivity on for the first 6 months after release.

AustralianSimon,
@AustralianSimon@lemmy.world avatar

MW5 and Satisfactory amongst others were limited to Epic for years.

Coskii,

Which is why I bought satisfactory twice.

Though for coffee stain I’d do it again.

Zalzabar,

Alan wake 2

WILSOOON, do games w Random Screenshots of my Games #54 - Get To Work

This looks absolutely awful, cant wait to try it

_cryptagion, do games w I hate when a PC game is ONLY available on Epic Games store

Steam, Epic, GOG, it’s all the same to me. I’m not gonna fanboy over one platform and miss out on a game. That’s just ridiculous.

zexyqag, (edited )

I think don’t it’s as much fanboyism over steam and more unfanboyism over epic games

_cryptagion,

Still stupid as fuck, considering you don’t even need to use the Epic launcher for Epic games.

AustralianSimon,
@AustralianSimon@lemmy.world avatar

That’s literally the point of their Launcher… DRM.

Honytawk,

You mean exactly like Steam?

_cryptagion,

No, that’s good DRM. You shouldn’t criticize the benevolent GabeN, may his corporate monopoly last forever.

Praise be!

/s

AustralianSimon,
@AustralianSimon@lemmy.world avatar

And mods, friends, groups, community groups, server management and link to external games…

AustralianSimon,
@AustralianSimon@lemmy.world avatar

Steam offers more than just DRM…

_cryptagion,

What’s your point? Why would that matter if I’m not using their launcher when I play games from the Epic store? Just don’t use the Epic launcher. It’s not rocket science.

TachyonTele,

I have a ton of games from Epic, haven’t used their launcher ever.

AustralianSimon,
@AustralianSimon@lemmy.world avatar

I’m sorry but Epic is owned by Tencent. This means at any point in time, China’s Government can enforce trojans to be installed into your PC. Maybe not as relevant for you if you are not in a position of interest.

npr.org/…/china-intercepts-wechat-texts-from-u-s-…

It is known PC Launcher exclusives actually hurts the company and the game’s popularity.

pcgamer.com/epic-games-store-exclusives-apple-law…

While Steam is certainly not the good guy, they are not owned by a known Government organisation.

corbin,

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  • Appoxo,
    @Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Tbh any stake is too much and I’ll try to reduce it if poasible (e.g. pihole for tracking urls).
    Rather I would prefer to own stake in tencent :p At least I get paid dividends.

    AustralianSimon,
    @AustralianSimon@lemmy.world avatar

    I posted a link in my original comment about using WeChat to spy…

    Tencent owns 40% of Epic. That is very likely a controlling share which means being able to decide who is on the board and influence their decision making.

    www.thestockdork.com/who-owns-epic-games/

    _cryptagion,

    Tencent could own 100% of Epic, that doesn’t mean Epic is going to install malware on your PC for the Chinese government. That’s some top tier tinfoil bullshit. Nobody who lives in the US, which is where all the Epic employees and corporate overlords live, is going to risk going to prison for decades for espionage because their boss in China wants to steal data from gamers in the West.

    You’re out of your fucking mind.

    AustralianSimon,
    @AustralianSimon@lemmy.world avatar

    Say that to WeChat.

    _cryptagion,

    Is WeChat used in the US? Why the fuck are you using a Chinese app as your example, you could have done better than that, you twatwaffle.

    _cryptagion,

    China can’t force Trojans to be installed on your PC. The fact that you believe that nonsense tells me you’re a fucking idiot.

    AustralianSimon, (edited )
    @AustralianSimon@lemmy.world avatar

    Mate, if you are dim enough to think an update can’t contain malicious code I have a heap of bridges to sell you.

    Given you probably don’t understand software security but it’s fairly common attack vector.

    hackerone.com/…/supply-chain-attacks-impact-examp…

    _cryptagion, (edited )

    I know an update can contain malicious code, I’m saying you’re an idiot for thinking Todd Sweeney is going to go to prison so that China can steal data from a bunch of fat sweaty dudes.

    Your comment is even more fucking idiotic when you consider Microsoft works with the NSA, and Recall will archive everything you do on your Windows PC for them to peruse at will without a warrant.

    Appoxo, (edited )
    @Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Steam does provide good general dev services
    GOG preserves games and let’s you own game files without pesky DRM
    What does Epic do besides developing UE5 and harrassing the PC platform with exclusivity deals?

    Other dev-specific platforms like EA amd Uplay get a pass because they publish only their own games.

    Anti_Face_Weapon,

    This is it right here. Do not fanboy platform. Competition is very very important in this kind of market. But epic games is just the worst of all worlds.

    Release on GOG, I’ll buy it. If not, release on steam. Otherwise 🏴‍☠️

    _cryptagion,

    It’s not harassing me. I’ve bought Epic exclusives, and I’ll continue to do so if it’s a game I want to play. I always buy GOG first, Epic second (for exclusives), and Steam last, for anything else. This isn’t a problem for me.

    Appoxo,
    @Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Well this may be a just-you-and-someothers problem the general audience (on lemmy at least) disagrees.
    I am fine if devs sell on epic but not if it’s arbitrary exclusivity.
    I have bought on EA and uPlay but I would never consider them again if they pay (for example) Take2 if they would exclusive sell GTA6 on the EA store.

    Nexy, do games w I hate when a PC game is ONLY available on Epic Games store
    @Nexy@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    For me, its like it didn’t have a release at all. There are allot more game I want to play of years ago. No fomo.

    johannesvanderwhales,

    Yeah I don’t really buy pc games before they fall below a certain price point, anyway. So I don’t really care about these limited exclusive periods.

    I wonder how much these deals are paying off for epic. Outside of exclusives and the weekly free games I’ve basically never even thought of buying a game on EGS. Definitely the worst launcher experience. Easily ignorable.

    BoxOfFeet,
    @BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world avatar

    I don’t buy hardware until it drops below a certain price point, so when I finally have a PC capable enough, the game price is coincidentally also lower.

    Wahots,
    @Wahots@pawb.social avatar

    Not even just ignorable. I literally don’t even hear about them until they release on steam and people talk smack in steam reviews. It might as well not exist unless it’s on Steam or GOG.

    Apparently Alan Wake 2 came out on PC awhile ago, and I literally had no idea until someone bitched about it on Lemmy, lol.

    drdiddlybadger, do games w I hate when a PC game is ONLY available on Epic Games store
    @drdiddlybadger@pawb.social avatar

    If a game is only released on Epic, it hasn’t been released yet. Its just in some weird alpha state until it has broader release.

    AustralianSimon,
    @AustralianSimon@lemmy.world avatar

    We waited years for MW5 to come off Epic and finally got it. Same with Satisfactory.

    xavier666,

    This is the way

    ILikeBoobies, do games w I hate when a PC game is ONLY available on Epic Games store

    Epic supports third party launchers

    I think Steam is the only platform I avoid that works on Linux

    auzy,

    Why would you avoid steam 😂

    It is popular for a reason and Linux on desktop would be even more dead if it wasn’t for them (and proton)

    ILikeBoobies,

    Proton’s help is anticheat

    I was using linux before, I can use it after

    And though I already said why I avoid it. It doesn’t adhere to Unix philosophy. Does it want to he a store? launcher? download manager? Mod repo? Community site? Chat program?

    It should pick one and let someone else do another

    prole,

    I take it you’re not a fan of Systemd

    ILikeBoobies,

    Not particularly

    auzy,

    I’ve been using Linux for approximately 20-25 years.

    If we’re talking about what one thing steam does well? Gaming!

    It handles dependencies, and it makes windows games transparent to Linux users (you don’t even know it’s being emulated). In fact, from my understanding, some games run better than in windows in some cases

    If you’re using controllers, steam input also makes games a lot more playable.

    If we’re talking about the Unix philosophy though, what one thing does the Linux kernel do?

    The Unix philosophy better targets daemons then user facing apps. In fact, if you look at xorg/xfree, one could argue it is one thing. But if you break it down into a different perspective, it could mean many things

    ILikeBoobies,

    It handles dependencies, and it makes windows games transparent to Linux users (you don’t even know it’s being emulated). In fact, from my understanding, some games run better than in windows in some cases

    Wine is not an Emulator

    If you’re using controllers, steam input also makes games a lot more playable.

    haven’t had issues using ps4 controllers without Steam. I even use it in Runelite

    If we’re talking about the Unix philosophy though, what one thing does the Linux kernel do?

    Be the kernel, it’s the only constant between separate deployments

    pineapplelover,

    Can’t you add it to Heroic Launcher?

    ILikeBoobies,

    No, but you can add their games to steam

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