kbin.social

daredevil, do kbinDevlog w RTR#29 Another boring update: Categories and bug fixes

I did not expect to see the / feature be implemented so quickly after mentioning it in only two threads ago. It's really exciting watching develop. However, when I tried making a private and public test case, both returned with 50x error. Even though some actions are successful despite showing this error, I couldn't find my attempts at using this feature under Settings > Collections or Magazines > Collections. Regardless, your work is certainly appreciated.

ernest,
@ernest@kbin.social avatar

It should work now ;-)

daredevil, (edited )

Incredible. I can confirm it works now.

edit: I was going to make a public for , but you beat me to it. :)

Interested folks should favorite this below for a streamlined view of @kbindevlog and @kbinmeta

https://kbin.social/u/ernest/c/kbin

ThatOneKirbyMain2568, (edited ) do kbinDevlog w RTR#28 New Homepage Options, Improved Aggregate View, Support Us Box
@ThatOneKirbyMain2568@kbin.social avatar

Awesome stuff! I'm loving how these features are shaping up.

A few further suggestions on the aggregate view:

  • Like Threads and Microblog, All Content should have a number next to it (just the number of threads + the number of microblog posts).
  • I think the homepage setting should be split into "homepage feed" (all, subscriptions, moderated, or favorites) and "homepage view" (all content, threads, microblogs). That'd make the current dropdown a lot less cluttered.
  • It'd also be helpful to have a "default view" setting that applies when you go to any magazine or feed. For example, if I go to /m/Kurzgesagt and my default view is set to All Content, it'll start on the All Content view.

Should you keep the homepage setting as it is, there are a few issues with the dropdown:

  • When you select something, the only text that shows is the feed, not the view.
  • When you select something, the option that you currently have saved moves to the bottom of the dropdown.
  • Not sure if this has always been a thing, but the dropdown uses "Subscriptions" while the channel list in the header uses "Subscribed".

ETA: One more issue I forgot to mention — when you click All Content on the favorites, moderated, or subscribed feed, it sends you to the all feed.

squid, do gaming w Alternative sources for the No Pronouns mod for Starfield

Lol the mod makes everyone non binary 🤣🤣 the right are getting woke

firebreathingbunny,

There's no such thing as a non-binary person any more than there is such a thing as personal pronouns. The game can't make a character into something that literally doesn't exist.

squid,

Well the mod you want will not align genetic gender to they’re perceived gender. Also were playing a game that introduces magic… I’m sure you can suspend your believe for pronounce.

firebreathingbunny,

The mod does what it's supposed to by removing the nonsensical concept of personal pronouns that doesn't objectively exist in the real world. A slightly more involved mod would rename body types A and B to male and female and set the appropriate pronouns accordingly. I'll post that, too, when it comes out.

squid,

No such thing as objectivity, we live in the abstract and we give meaning. Pronounced are more of a respectful approach, if your friend said “don’t call me “(insert what ever)” I find it is disrespectful”, you’d stop, same for disabilities, where I’m from we had lots of derogatory names for disabled people and most people will not use those names as its disrespectful.

You are witnessing the natural progression of language, kick and scream all you want but well be there with you or without you

firebreathingbunny,

Biology is objective. The rules of English grammar are objective. You are wrong per both.

squid,

Yes they are objective but every year a new dictionary comes out with new words and meanings, this is humanity turning the abstract into meaning. I’d like to see you get by with the vocabulary of a 16th century Brit.

firebreathingbunny,

English grammar doesn't change without the consent of the majority. You lose.

squid,

You don’t seem to be in the majority buddy

firebreathingbunny,

I am. The billions of English speakers in the third world overwhelmingly reject western degeneracy and cultural imperialism. Nobody's buying what you're selling.

Eggyhead,
@Eggyhead@artemis.camp avatar

I mean, the absurdity of your argument that a sci-fi space rpg can’t meet your standards of “reality” because of a mere ignorable, pre-existing and commonly used pronoun aside, I’m going to have to step in on this particularly low-hanging morsel…

The rules of English grammar are objective.

If English grammatical rules were objective, we’d all still be talking the way people did way before Shakespeare. Actually, Shakespeare’s writings wouldn’t exist today if English grammar wasn’t at all subjective because he flat out made up a ton of words and phrases we still use today. Also, you’ve heard of poetry, right?

“It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” (Macbeth, Act 5, Scene 5)

firebreathingbunny,

Which grammar rule changed since Shakespeare's time? The reason students can still read and understand Shakespeare's works is that the grammar remains the same. Congratulations, you owned yourself.

stopthatgirl7,
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Ironically, one of the biggest changes from Shakespeare’s time and now concerned pronouns. We stopped using “thou/thee” as the informal 2nd person and began to only use what had been the formal 2nd person, “you,” and stopped using the verb conjugations for them.

Meanwhile, the 3rd person singular “they” has been in use since Chaucer’s time.

firebreathingbunny,

You don't even know the difference between vocabulary and grammar. You're dismissed.

stopthatgirl7,
!deleted7120 avatar

My brother in Christ; I’M AN ENGLISH TEACHER.

If you don’t understand how “we lost an entire pronoun and the verb inflection that went with it” is in fact grammar, I don’t even know what to tell you.

firebreathingbunny,

I'M AN ENGLISH TEACHER.

Apparently not a very good one, because:

  • You don't know the difference between vocabulary and grammar.
  • You don't know that appeal to authority is a logical fallacy.
  • You don't know what being dismissed means.

Bye.

stopthatgirl7,
!deleted7120 avatar

And you, sir, are what my momma like to call “loud and wrong.”

Eggyhead,
@Eggyhead@artemis.camp avatar

Just off the top of my head: In some US dialects, rather than a single word changing between negative and positive form (e.g. “I didn’t take any pictures”), instead an entire sentence is shifted into a negative mode (“I didn’t take no pictures”). Traditional grammar rules would dictate that as a double negative, implying the speaker did in fact take pictures, but only an idiot would actually choose interpret it that way.

Next, we have the impact of the internet. “lol” might occasionally be spoken aloud in many circumstances as a substitute for “that’s funny” or something similar. Colloquial written English is all over the place. We now not only use “lol”, but “fwiw,” “afaik,” and many others.

Then there’s emoji. We’re basically using glyphs to express ideas, not unlike how kanji works, and traditional rules of grammar don’t always apply when you’re expressing an idea through pictures, though it’s interesting when it does. Animated GIFs and memes often butcher grammar rules without sacrificing any understanding of intent.

A simple google search turns up many more examples than I could possibly be aware of.

Now it’s your turn. Feel free to explain why you think using “they” as a singular pronoun applies as a grammar rule violation in the 21st century. If you can’t use more than a typical snarky one or two-liner, you should just consider this argument lost and rethink your life.

firebreathingbunny,

Dialects aren't language.

Eggyhead,
@Eggyhead@artemis.camp avatar

Dialects aren't the actual language. They're just wilful ignorance.

Say everyone bakes a potato. If your neighbor baked theirs differently than you, would that mean they’re ignorant?

And, again, vocabulary isn't grammar.

Good for you? No one said it was.

firebreathingbunny,

False analogy. You're hopeless. Go back to school.

Eggyhead,
@Eggyhead@artemis.camp avatar

You probably don’t even know what an actual school looks like.

firebreathingbunny,

Right. I learned about false analogies in the streets.

You're dismissed.

Eggyhead,
@Eggyhead@artemis.camp avatar

I'll be waiting until you have an actual argument to make. Until then, maybe reconsider where you get your "information".

Pxtl, do gaming w As a long time Armored Core fan, I am disappointed with Armored Core VI.
@Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

Agree that the mecha feel a bit more samey, but I played the heck out of the first AC games and I don’t miss the long and winding maps. I still remember maps I had to play Descent-style constantly switching to the 3D map (like the biological missions with the mouse-monsters in the first game). It was boring and tedious. And I don’t miss superlong missions where I had to ammo-ration.

A fundamental problem with AC is they don’t give you enough info to make informed decisions about config unless you want to try->die->redesign. Like if they had a preview of the terrain and some rough guesstimates about mission length and ammo needs, you could tailor your mech without the “oops I didn’t know this was going to be a marathon I’m out of ammo” which is just the most miserable way to lose. AC6 makes this explicit in that you probably won’t run out of ammo if you’ve 4 weapons and you use all of them. Given the alternative, I’ll take it.

And as for the “why isn’t stagger a function of knockback” that was terrible gameplay you could stunlock people in the early AC games.

I like the cooldown-based weapons, like the motion model (fighting while doing the flanking boost is hella fun)… But yes, the energy model is weird and imho does a lot to make the ACs feel samey. It used to be picking an energy weapon meant a tradeoff that you were draining your boost power when firing.

But yes I miss the radar. I think the expectation is that players will lock-on and then forget it, but I hate lock-on so I switched to mouse and keyboard and I find I’m often losing fast-moving targets in my periphery.

I miss the limited rotation rate of the early games, where boosting backwards to put a target in front of you was often better than turning to face them. Rotation rates was another way different layouts felt different. This also led to considerations with FCS shapes - short-ranged weapons with wider targeting-boxes that didn’t require aiming.

But on the other other hand, the spreadsheet of numbers is always dumb. I can’t think of any genre other than turn-based RPGs that are better for including “this weapon does different damage to target X vs target Y”. That’s always annoying trivia - let the Pokemon players keep that nonsense.

NocturnalMorning, (edited ) do games w What are some eras of gaming that you've stopped feeling nostalgic for?

I was a bit young when nes, and snes came out. I am still quiet fond of super mario world 2. But my favorite consoles, hands down are N64, PS1, and PS2. They were really just figuring out open world gaming back then, and they hadn’t yet figured our how to make every game constantly online, and/or gaming as a service.

I will say though, a lot of the old games I used to love don’t hold up as well playing them as an adult. They are either super hard, or have weird camera and controls, especially 007 GoldenEye for N64.

Another one that turned out to be tedious and hard is Zelda Ocarina of Time, which really surprised me. I thought the game was the greatest game ever as a kid.

tiredofsametab,

I never played n64 (except maybe a couple rounds of Mario kart, but that may have been gamecube). I tried to play ZOoT, goldeneye, etc. and found the controls and camera awful. With no nostalgia for it, I was out in about 30 minutes (I think less on goldeneye be cause of that abomination of a controller).

HeartyBeast, do kbinMeta w Please turn off science
@HeartyBeast@kbin.social avatar

I think I volunteered to help moderate it about 3 months ago 😕

bluGill, do kbinMeta w Banning spam accounts

kbin needs to do a lot here. I'm not sure what is the state of the art now, but kbin isn't following the basics.

HeartyBeast, do kbinMeta w I'm seeing more microblog posts
@HeartyBeast@kbin.social avatar

Perhaps you switched your view from ‘Threads’ to ‘All content’ without realising?

rhythmisaprancer,
@rhythmisaprancer@kbin.social avatar

I'm not sure, it is set there now but I no longer see the posts... Must be a setting somewhere.

Hypx, do kbinMeta w Are we cut off?
@Hypx@kbin.social avatar

Yes, kbin.social is being cut off: https://lemmy.world/post/14183949

eveninghere, do kbinMeta w Do the "Ernest needs to add more maintainers to KBin!" comments remind anyone else of the xz social engineering malarkey?

I mean, he’s developing and administrating what’s essentially a Reddit clone all on his own.

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

I mean, he’s developing and administrating what’s essentially a Reddit clone all on his own.

And doing a damn fine job.

The question was if you saw similarity in the pressure to add maintainers to the project with the social engineering that lead to xz getting backdoored.

eveninghere,

And he’s burning out. And more maintainers would be even better.

Yes, it’s similar, but every one-man project with real-world use is similar in that regard.

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

And he’s burning out.

I have seen no evidence of that. Also not the point of this thread.

HeartyBeast,
@HeartyBeast@kbin.social avatar

I’m not going to pick through his last year’s posts and make a diagnosis, but if you’ve seen no evidence of that, I think you’re wilfully ignoring the signs.

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

I’m not going to pick through his last year’s posts and make a diagnosis, but if you’ve seen no evidence of that, I think you’re wilfully ignoring the signs.

Ok, I'll continue "ignoring" evidence you can't even describe ("He talked somewhere about..."), much less cite.

For all we know his frequent absence is down to a great work-life balance on his part.

Irrespective this thread is not about who is or is not burnt out, it's about how posts like your are what enabled the xz backdoor to happen.

HeartyBeast, (edited )
@HeartyBeast@kbin.social avatar

Irrespective this thread is not about who is or is not burnt out, it's about how posts like your are what enabled the xz backdoor to happen.

I thin you need to chill a bit. Open source has a long illustrious history of people cooperating to build software and submit patches and enhancements which are then scrutinized by project leads. Yes, occasionally bad actors use this model to try and slip through exploits, but you don't throw out one of the strengths of open source because of that. You make sure mechanisms are in palce to allow robust scrutiny.

And no, I'm absolutely not going go through someone's post history and quote bits that show someone is frazzled. I expect you to have enough empathy

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

I thin you need to chill a bit.

I'm not the one calling people willfully ignorant about things a thread isn't even about.

one of the strengths of open source because of that.

I don't think being a jerk is a strength

eveninghere,

I used it as a support to my argument, so, it’s relevant. No evidence, you say… I don’t want to talk too much about someone’s health issue. Just believe what you believe. I don’t think you can change your view through online discussion.

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

I used it as a support to my argument

What argument? I'm not sure what you position is.

FaceDeer,

No, he's not. Kbin was recently down for a week. Then voting and comment counts broke. Before all that I had to get into the habit of reloading the page I was on every time I wanted to vote on something. It's a terrible user experience.

That's not to say I don't like him or he's not a good dev or whatever. Just that people have limits and it sure seems like he's bumping against his.

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

I think Ernest is doing a fine job. [shrug] Especially when you consider none of us are being charged to be here.

Could we please stop talking about if Ernest is burning out though? That was never the question of this thread.

The question was if the comments reminded you of the social engineering that engendered the xz backdoor.

FaceDeer,

I didn't say anything about burning out. A job can be too big or difficult for a person without them burning out.

Ultimately, it's just a question of results. If kbin.social is working poorly but other alternatives are doing good, I move on. That works well in the Fediverse especially, as evidenced that I am commenting from fedia.io.

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

I didn't say anything about burning out.

Fairplay, but that then's two step removed from what this thread is about.

OpenStars,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

Likewise I also moved on from Kbin. Obviously we have no power over that project, that belongs solely to the person who created it, but we do control our own actions. e.g. I used to sing the praises of the Fediverse and go out of my way to not equate it with Lemmy - always saying like Lemmy/Kbin. Now I still do the former but I actively tell people that Kbin might not be a good match for them. Ernest has kept it as alpha version software - which is fine, there is a need for such things, and it will become great, someday… hopefully. But today is not that day, and that is super good for people to know, e.g. that they don’t have to leave the Fediverse entirely to get a more functional experience, just Kbin.social.

FaceDeer,

fedia.io is running mbin, which is a fork of kbin. It seems to be doing well, so you could switch to Lemmy/mbin if you don't want to include kbin any more but still want to show alternate clients are possible.

OpenStars,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

Thank you for the suggestion. So far I’ve just taken to saying “Fediverse”, perhaps I’m holding out hope for still more clients in the future:-)? Also it’s shorter than Lemmy/Kbin/Mbin:-).

Canard,

I saw the term "threadiverse" being used to group all Reddit alternatives interoperable with the Fediverse.

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

I saw the term "threadiverse" being used to group all Reddit alternatives interoperable with the Fediverse.

Yeah, but Meta's fucked up the application of anything containing "thread".

ProdigalFrog,
@ProdigalFrog@kbin.social avatar

Piefed also looks promising.

OpenStars,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

Exactly! More and more products can be added - like now we are hearing about Fedi-wikis (from the original Lemmy developer iirc), and ofc there will be Threads (whether we dread it or not!), so the Fediverse (iirc, defined basically as anything that uses the ActivityPub protocol?) is growing up, spurred onwards by the ongoing demise of Reddit even if started long before. :-)

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

Piefed also looks promising.

That one interoperable with Mastodon like Kbin is?

ProdigalFrog,
@ProdigalFrog@kbin.social avatar

It appears focused on being compatible with lemmy, but I haven't asked the dev what their plans are for mastodon integration.

They do have an interesting image-viewing mode though, which is pretty cool. :)

sab,
@sab@kbin.social avatar

Nope, and it doesn't seem to be on the agenda either. Kbin/Mbin is still the only platform(s) to try to bridge the two.

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

Kbin/Mbin is still the only platform(s) to try to bridge the two.

Moreover it seems to have better discoverability than mastodon Mastodon. I can type a word or phrase in the search bar on kbin and find "Mastodon" posts whereas I'm stuck viewing whatever is timeline trending on Mastodon proper unless I follow someone or can figure out whatever hashtag person might have affixed to their post.

Even with kbin being down a good 1/5 of the time it remains the best ActivityPub viewing experience (in my).

ImADifferentBird,
@ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

He is doing an excellent job, and I do not mean to denigrate his work when I say the task is beyond any one person, no matter how talented and dedicated. Look at the issues that went on recently while Ernest was indisposed, and we had months of federation issues that led to communities migrating away and Kbin.social getting defederated by other instances.

This project is getting too large for any one person, and it’s far too important to have one point of failure. And even someone as great as Ernest needs an understudy.

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

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  • ImADifferentBird,
    @ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    The existence of one bad actor doesn’t make the principle any less true.

    Kbin has long since surpassed what Ernest is capable of handling by himself. Either he’s going to have to learn to delegate, or it’s going to collapse under its own weight.

    TheVillageGuy, do kbinMeta w /kbin is feeling great right now

    Great to hear kbin is back on track, and assumably so are you @ernest. With so many improvements having been made, however, I can't help but wonder if and how these changes are being made public?

    AlteredStateBlob, do kbinMeta w /kbin March update
    @AlteredStateBlob@kbin.social avatar

    Those are great news. Hope your recovery goes well and that you find some solid people to help with the maintenance in terms of moderation. kbin really is my favorite instance of this all, but needs some love.

    Pamasich, do kbinMeta w RE: Is Ernest still here?

    I'm just focusing on clearing spam

    This is good to hear, but there's still soooo much spam on the instance, it's clearly too much for you. Can you please accept some of the magazine ownership requests (and moderator requests on your magazines) so we can actually help you with this? I know I've applied to a few, which are still pending, so there's definitely people waiting in line.

    s0ckpuppet, do kbinMeta w RE: Is Ernest still here?

    Appreciate the communication, hope you get well soon

    swope, do kbinMeta w Is Ernest still here?
    @swope@kbin.social avatar

    It would be more likely to be critically hit by an SUV or pick-up, just saying.

    roguetrick,

    Fuck cars really is a mantra huh?

    sadreality,

    If you got money to afford to live in place where you can get away without a car, otherwise you paying for it and it won't cheap either

    FfaerieOxide,
    @FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

    hit by an SUV or pick-up

    Are there alot of those in Poland?

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