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Enkers, do games w Why Unity's New Install Fees Are Spurring Massive Backlash Among Game Developers - IGN

Riccitiello also came under fire in 2022 for referring to developers who don’t focus on microtransactions as the “biggest f*cking idiots” before apologizing.

Classic CEO brainrot. There’s more to life than just maximizing profit.

otter,

Maybe this will be the kick in the rear that gets people to drop them enmasse. I’d definitely explore the other options for any new projects I was starting.

Even if they drop this fee, is it really worth the headache in the future when they try something again?

doctorcrimson,

No, Unity has always been an inferior engine to others such as Unreal Engine, Lumberyard, Blender, etc. In fact, the Unreal Engine 3 UDK became free well over a decade ago, and it’s basically Unity if Unity weren’t the scummy corporate vampires they’ve always been.

quams69,

Let’s not pretend Epic aren’t also scummy corporate vampires

dylanTheDeveloper,
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I’m sorry but Blender game engine was pretty cumbersome to use. It was officially dropped awhile ago and last I heard it was picked up by the community

LillyPip,

In a capitalist oligarchy? There’s really not.

KingThrillgore, do games w Why Unity's New Install Fees Are Spurring Massive Backlash Among Game Developers - IGN
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

The aftermath from its main audience, mobile devs, is going to be biblical.

banana_meccanica, do games w Why Unity's New Install Fees Are Spurring Massive Backlash Among Game Developers - IGN

They must have lost their minds. Bankrupt or even pay Unity back for a successful game you made and finished months ago? I hope they get legal action.

KoboldCoterie,
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Seriously. If they were changing the terms going forward, that’d at least be defensible, but trying to make it apply to everything that’s ever been made is just nonsensical.

Fubarberry,
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Even then it would be pretty bad for a lot of devs. If you’ve been developing a game in unity for years, you can’t just easily change engines just because they’ve changed the rules of using their engine.

KoboldCoterie,
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I agree with you; they’d have to give plenty of notice that the changes were coming and maybe even offer exemptions for developers who can show they were working on something significantly before the announcement… I don’t think there’s any way they could reasonably do it that would avoid all backlash, but this just seems like the absolute worst way to handle it.

4am,

So they owe devs on all previous installs? Like back payment? Or just going forward if you’ve ever used Unity?

KoboldCoterie, (edited )
@KoboldCoterie@pawb.social avatar

Any future installs starting on January 1. It does, however, mean that many developers will be more or less forced to pull their games off of storefronts, if it actually goes through. It also means that if you bought a Unity game in the past, you’re costing the developer money every time you install it (again, if this actually goes through - I can’t imagine they won’t backpedal.)

The real issue with this isn’t the policy itself, which I would bet money won’t actually be enacted, but the fact that Unity (thinks they) can just unilaterally and retroactively change their policies. If this actually held up in court, which I think is a tenuous possibility at best (but I am not a lawyer so take that with a grain of salt), it sets an awful, awful precedent.

NotMyOldRedditName,

If they can change the terms of games already released and ask for a % per install, what’s stopping them from just asking for 100% and saying suck it bitches.

caseyweederman, do gaming w Developer Explains Why Starfield NPCs Look Like They’re Dead Inside - IGN

They can’t all be Disneyland

geosoco, do games w Why Unity's New Install Fees Are Spurring Massive Backlash Among Game Developers - IGN

This article has some new quotes and details. I know we have the other thread going, but this would get buried over there.

keeb420, do gaming w Developer Explains Why Starfield NPCs Look Like They’re Dead Inside - IGN

I thought it was because they used npcs from fo4 but they standout more against the better rendered scenes.

livus, do gaming w Developer Explains Why Starfield NPCs Look Like They’re Dead Inside - IGN
@livus@kbin.social avatar

Thanks, this article helped me to perfect my fake smile.

Bonehead,

It's ok...you don't need to do that here. You can let the pain out...

Kichae, do gaming w Developer Explains Why Starfield NPCs Look Like They’re Dead Inside - IGN

Wait, this is a Bethesda game. I assumed that that was the explanation.

HidingCat,

Also why I don't want to play them. Oblivion sounded amazing but the moment I saw gameply with the NPCs, I was like, nah.

Kichae,

Also, Oblivion just wasn't amazing. It was fine. More than good enough, even. But it was also just unmitigated and completely ubcofused sidequest sprawl. In my attempts to experience all that it had to offer, I ended up feeling like I experienced nothing of value.

books, do games w Steam's Oldest User Accounts Turn 20, Valve Celebrates With Special Digital Badges - IGN

18 as well.

Stillhart, do gaming w Developer Explains Why Starfield NPCs Look Like They’re Dead Inside - IGN

That explains why they look that way, it doesn’t explain why a AAA game in 2023 was allowed to ship that way, though.

KingJalopy,
@KingJalopy@lemm.ee avatar

$$$

WarmSoda,

Dude. They already spent two years developing it. What else do you want from them?

shiveyarbles,

They could develop it for eternity like star citizen

thefartographer,

I might be about to buy a new PC primarily just to play that. Am I making a mistake?

pimento64,

Yes. Star Citizen is a scam.

mp3,
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It’s not a scam if you buy it and enjoy it for what it is, but it’s a scam if you keep putting money into it for features and content that is promised but not delivered.

wolfshadowheart,
@wolfshadowheart@kbin.social avatar

You can buy Gwenyth Paltrow's goop jade egg and you'll receive it, that doesn't mean it's not a scam.

thefartographer,

But that’s an obvious scam. I don’t already have space-themed PC games stored in my fridge that I can readily shove up my butt.

So you’re saying that I shouldn’t buy Star Citizen and stick eggs in my butt instead? I don’t like your ideas, but you seem like a reasonable person and I can’t argue with your logic.

Stillhart,

There’s a sucker born every minute. You might want to read up on that “game” before committing any money to it.

sigmaklimgrindset,

Because Bethesda knows that the modding community will polish the game up for free.

NuPNuA,

Because based on the amount of sales they’ve made and the combined player numbers between those and gamepass players, lots of people don’t care.

I started gaming on an Amstrad in the late 80s, I’ve lived though multiple groundbreaking leaps in graphical quality since then and now and frankly, it doesn’t impress me anymore, especially with how incremental it’s become. I’m more impressed by the scale and world building of Starfield and how all its systems come together than how it’s character models look.

erwan,

I wasn’t creeped out by character faces from my Amstrad either.

When you get to the level of realism of Starfield you have to pay attention to the details. If you can’t, just pick a different graphical style.

Sylver, do games w Starfield’s Giant Pile of 20,000 Potatoes, Explained by Game Developers - IGN

To be honest, those potatoes falling out of the door really did look impressive.

AngryAnusHornets, do games w Steam's Oldest User Accounts Turn 20, Valve Celebrates With Special Digital Badges - IGN

September 13, 2003 for me it seems.

Just a few weeks ago it feels like. Probably spent more time playing video games between 2003 and 2006 than I have between 2006 and today. Makes me sad.

JokeDeity, do games w Steam's Oldest User Accounts Turn 20, Valve Celebrates With Special Digital Badges - IGN

I think I made mine in 2009 for some sweet sweet TF2.

JackbyDev,

The orange box was such a good deal

quams69, do games w Steam's Oldest User Accounts Turn 20, Valve Celebrates With Special Digital Badges - IGN

Damn, 16 here

easydnesto, do games w Steam's Oldest User Accounts Turn 20, Valve Celebrates With Special Digital Badges - IGN

11/22/2004 reporting in. Just currently 18 almost 19. I do not have a short steam ID though. Can’t remember which game was the first but pretty sure it was either half-life or HL2

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