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SkullBoi, do games w ‘Suicide Squad: Kill The Justice League’ Ends Its Weekly Updates

Feels so good to see a live service cashgrab fail

Princeali311, (edited )

Their apparent solution to this is more live service games (at least from a few weeks or so ago).

Edit: Link pcgamer.com/…/warner-bros-aims-to-increase-focus-…

TachyonTele,

“If at first you don’t succeed. Fail, fail again.”

DrSleepless, do games w ‘Suicide Squad: Kill The Justice League’ Ends Its Weekly Updates

TIL you can update poop

Whirling_Cloudburst, do games w ‘Suicide Squad: Kill The Justice League’ Ends Its Weekly Updates

It was so bad that many of them decided to finally touch grass.

atmur, do games w ‘Suicide Squad: Kill The Justice League’ Ends Its Weekly Updates

Watching live service games crash and burn is just so cathartic.

EveningNewbs, do games w ‘Suicide Squad: Kill The Justice League’ Ends Its Weekly Updates

Nature is healing.

ampersandrew, (edited )
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Not until Helldivers 2 dies too. I was tricked into thinking it was healing, and then that game exploded.

EDIT: The truth hurts, but that’s still a live service game that’s actively working against the interests of consumers and preservationists. The more money and playtime people give it, the worse this situation gets.

Katana314,

I still don’t think the enemy is “all live service games” exactly. A lot of us have a style of gameplay we enjoy that makes us go “That was fun! I want some more of it.”

Just that Rocksteady made singleplayer games well, and their poor shift just informs us that not all games need to be live service, especially when the gameplay shifts to something no one likes in order to achieve Number Go Up (similar situation with Gotham Knights)

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Number can go up without being tied to a server you don’t and can’t control. Those games still get made, from Titan Quest to Borderlands. Nothing about the gameplay loop of Helldivers offends me; the totally unnecessary forced obsolescence does. The thing that makes it a live service game is the thing that makes it incompatible with surviving for more than a few years without an Act of God, like Knockout City. I also hate that people have been trained into differentiating “single player” and “live service”, as though multiplayer must inherently be this way when it doesn’t have to be. A live service game is just an inferior version of a game they could have made that would survive offline, because it’s tied to their servers. Do you think Sony could have mandated a PSN account after the point of sale if it was available DRM-free and allowed you to run your own servers?

TachyonTele,

There is some hope for these games. For example Shadow of War works perfectly fine now and doesn’t have any of it’s “battle pass” stuff in it anymore. It can happen.
Rarely.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

If Helldivers 2 gets updated to work offline, including multiplayer, I will no longer wish for its death. I just don’t think that’s at all likely.

BroBot9000, do games w ‘Suicide Squad: Kill The Justice League’ Ends Its Weekly Updates
@BroBot9000@lemmy.world avatar

Any numbers in on how much money they lost?

MrScottyTay,

Considering what companies that make live services target for… They’ll chalk this up as a loss at the amount of All of the money in the world.

ampersandrew,
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Approximately $200M, but you can get creative with accounting across multiple products, the way they phrased it.

Potatos_are_not_friends, do games w ‘Suicide Squad: Kill The Justice League’ Ends Its Weekly Updates

Steam puts the player peak for the episode release at just 559 players, and it’s down to peaking under 500 even on the weekend here.

FinishingDutch,
@FinishingDutch@lemmy.world avatar

When you can pack the peak amount of players into a decent sized ballroom, that’s never a good sign for your game’s future.

At this point they’re probably better off just refunding buyers and shuttering the game entirely. Doesn’t feel like this is a salvageable situation.

ParanoiaComplex,

refunding buyers

Image

kureta,

Oof

intensely_human, do games w Report: A Marvel 6v6 Overwatch-Style Shooter Is Coming

Hell yes. Any time I play over watch I think “this reminds me of a marvel movie battle scene”

hal_5700X, do games w Report: A Marvel 6v6 Overwatch-Style Shooter Is Coming

Too little too late. With superhero fatigue and people not liking Overwatch has much. This game is dead on arrival.

Voroxpete,

Counterpoint, people love Overwatch, they hate what Blizzard did to it. There’s an audience out there hungry for this exact product if someone can do it right (or, at least, about 20% less wrong than Blizzard).

MeanEYE,
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And yet they won’t do it right because everyone wants to make a game as a service these days and sell loot boxes and collectibles with season passes, special editions, early adopter bonuses, login bonuses and in-game currency. If it lacks even two the things I mentioned, I’d be surprised.

Voroxpete,

Oh, sure, there’s basically zero chance that this will actually be good. But that wasn’t my point. All I’m saying is that the idea of releasing an Overwatch style hero shooter right now isn’t inherently stupid.

MeanEYE,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

Am not the average consumer so I wouldn’t know. I do miss good strategy games, turn based and story rich RPGs, etc.

Fades, do games w Report: A Marvel 6v6 Overwatch-Style Shooter Is Coming

Created by netease, which means it will be a piece of fucking shit flush with micro transactions designed to suck as much of your life away for as little possible effort

It’s a real shame because the premise could be awesome if done right but instead they went with the quick cash grab approach.

dlpkl, do games w Report: A Marvel 6v6 Overwatch-Style Shooter Is Coming

I would have been hyped for this before the time of predatory microtransactions. Now I’m just bummed to see how shit it’ll be

mox, do games w Report: A Marvel 6v6 Overwatch-Style Shooter Is Coming

Tangentially related: Gigantic is coming back, so those of us who missed it might finally get to play it.

Mini_Moonpie, do games w Report: A Marvel 6v6 Overwatch-Style Shooter Is Coming

I just want Marvel Heroes back.

BruceTwarzen,

For real, that game was such a good time.

caut_R, do games w Report: A Marvel 6v6 Overwatch-Style Shooter Is Coming

The dream duo: Suits that are out of touch with their customers and chasing trends with a multi year delay lol

Neato,
@Neato@ttrpg.network avatar

What about a Marvel battle Royale?!

caut_R,

That’s the kinda forward thinking that I like to hear! Here‘s your 200m, you have 2 years, I expect a prototype of the ingame shop by the end of next week

Andrenikous,

I mean if it actually had good diverse gameplay per character and allowed us to obliterate our surroundings I could see it having a player base for a bit. Trying to balance it would be a nightmare for whatever team was tackling it.

intensely_human,

Any good Marvel game should definitely have heavily destructible environments.

And they need to model different kinds of destruction too, from explosions to melting to being warped or having portions teleported away.

cdipierr, do games w Report: A Marvel 6v6 Overwatch-Style Shooter Is Coming

Not sure about this guys - not even Overwatch wants to be Overwatch right now…

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