SH2 is my partner’s favorite game, and I’ll be interested to hear their assessment of this. I tried SH2 on PC a few years ago, and the tank controls were just so outdated it took me out of the game.
The original designer of Dead Cells, Sébastien Benard, formed a new studio and has a new roguelike game on the way called Tenjutsu in which players take the role of a renegade yakuza.
Earlier this year, Benard called the decision to end Dead Cells development “the worst imaginable asshole move”.
I’m curious about how others feel about this. I think Dead Cells is an incredible game, but the amount of continued DLC releases has actually turned me off of the game somewhat. I’m actually glad development has ended in a way, so that I can rebuy the “complete” game and have everything.
The game already had tons of content, I don’t think it needs perpetual new content additions.
I am becoming the same way. Maybe I am just old, but I miss the days of buying something and having a finished product. Instead, we have games like this and Stardew Valley that release in an incomplete state and are still receiving major content updates almost a decade later.
Stardew doesn’t bother me because the updates are free. As soon as there’s more content for the game, I have it. If I feel like playing Stardew again, the new content is a reason to jump back in to playing it again.
However with Dead Cells, whenever I think about going back and playing it I think about all the new content that I haven’t bought for it. It feels like my options are spend money for the current complete game, play an incomplete version, or just don’t play it right now. I’ve been deciding on “don’t play it right now” for years now.
My issue with Stardew Valley content updates is that they change how the game works. It is not just adding extra postgame missions or something. The content updates tend to fundamentally change how some things work. Your possible/preferred routes to reach endgame today are much different than they were in 2016. It makes it feel like perpetual Early Access.
Dead Cells released in a state that felt pretty complete to me, so I just appreciate all the extra content, especially the free updates. It's a game that's so good I'm glad it got such loving support, because the core is so fantastic that I really did just want some more levels and items to increase replayability.
I think it's okay for it to end now. I'd also think it was okay if the devs kept going, but it's in a place where it's got enough content that it can end here and I'm okay with that.
Reading the full statement, it sounds to me like there was more to it than just the game’s development coming to an end. It sounds like it might have been a very sudden decision by the publisher, with possible negative consequences for the development team.
In principle I agree though, there is no issue with a game just being finished at some point, especially a single player one. But I also don’t mind continued updates and/or DLC.
We’ll see how Seekers of the Storm will be on the 27th, but honestly it likely won’t be bad. Bringing back the character Chef from ROR1 is something we’ve been wanting and so unless SotS changes a bunch of things for the worse, I’m not sure this update will really have any reason to show the future of ROR2.
I imagine we’ll get this and it’ll be done for a while as sales determine whether they want to do another one or not.
I feel this with Terraria. Yeah the updates are free and they try many ways to freshen the game up. But, I'm almost begging for the game to land itself in a comfortable level of finishing itself and just polish it off. It is a radically different game when I try it than when I first did back in 2015.
The biggest problem to me is, that they will shutdown the previous game. I think its different enough to keep it, but probably not many people play it. What is the current Don’t kill videogames campaign called again?
I guess they don’t want to a) split the user base of similar games, b) force people into buying new stuff from new game, c) can’t or don’t want to maintain multiple live service games at the same time. These are guesses by me, not saying its the case here or always the case, just giving a few ideas why this could happen.
It does, however, become very finite solution in the scenario that the new game flops. It’s having two baskets, putting all your eggs in one and burning the other. So now their entire income is dependent on that one metaphorical basket carrying the weight.
4v4, objective based gameplay with a slight hero-shooter twist
This sounds awesome to me! Add the portal mechanic to the mix and its a unique hero shooter with objectives. I played the first game back when it was new, but stopped playing because lack of content, playing the same thing over and over again. It got boring. Hopefully they learned their lesson this time.
I appreciate your enthusiasm! I think a lot of folks are a bit burnt out on hero shooters at this point, given the market saturation. On the other hand, you are correct that Splitgate 1 was a bit thin, and they needed to do more with it. To me, it feels like they looked at that problem, and just went “what if we made it more like every other multiplayer shooter on the market right now?”, which strikes me as…lazy? Uninspired?
While it’s not ideal there is something actively played out there, with plenty of custom maps and kind of recent…
I’ll copy-paste a previous comment about it here:
Though development is long dead, the servers were taken offline recently and it was delisted by Epic, people are still playing the Unreal Tournament pre-alpha (commonly called UT4) which you can get here: www.ut4ever.org/downloads
The download should come with the unofficial update which gives access to the private servers, I play on the Unreal Carnage servers regularly which often gets 8-15 players at a time, more than enough for some deathmatch. Would love to see some more people around!
(Mind I’m in New Zealand, which is why my ping is so high, the netcode handles it well somehow)
The shift from “we’re making a fun and relatively casual arena shooter with a neat gimmick and extremely rewarding fundamentals” to “we’re making a generic e sport shooter” was swift and, frankly, uncalled for.
My friends and I all LOVED the pick-up nature of SG1. We’re all adults with busy lives, so hopping into a ~5 minute casual match was just so easy. And the casual nature made it feel like we could have success without “grinding” the game. I guess that is explicitly not the intent of SG2.
Nope it’s not… Another live service with a never ending treadmill of rinse repeat and spend on micro transactions…oh and be sure to play as long as possible for engagement metrics.
Their trailer with esports people had me going who even are these people and why would I believe anything coming out of their mouths when they are the equivalent of infomercial sales people with them being paid to be in it. Is it really the best way to market a game?
DO ISAAC YOU PUSSIES. MAKE AN ELEVEN MINUTE ANIMATION ABOUT A RELIGIOUS WACKJOB HEARING GOD TELL HER TO KILL HER SON, WHO FLEES TO THE BASEMENT AND FIGHTS AN ABORTION WITH HIS TEARS
Speaking of Spelunky, does anyone know where you can download the original open-source version? The link on the official website times out, and the discussion forums seem dead too.
To be fair he didn’t know Samus was a woman, Kid Icarus’ name was actually Pit, or that Metroid was the name of the alien not the planet, so yes… he was definitely a joke to me.
Sadly the studio had a lot of people leaving from what i gathered, tango studio may not be the same as before microsoft betrayal… But it’s a good thing for the artists tho !
I didn’t know that, but it would make sense. I imagine many had already been looking for new jobs before they knew this would happen. Hopefully though something good will come from this.
can they just please make a lower budget game for the sake of branching out instead of pushing millions into a game expecting it to explode in sales? no? too much to ask? ok…
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