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Kolanaki, do gaming w Thoughts on Space Games, Part 1: Top-5 AAA Games
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When I think “space game” I usually have a specific genre in mind and Mass Effect isn’t it. You don’t even do anything in space unless you count the hub area since it’s your spaceship. For Starfield to be an honorable mention but Elite completely devoid from the list has dealt me near lethal psychic damage. 😩

t3rmit3, (edited )

Haha, I admit that is my personal bias. I was burned in several ways as an E:D Kickstarter backer, especially when the “all updates” part turned out not to include… all updates.

But honestly, I just lost interest. I was doing rare goods trading routes and Frontier nuked them into the ground, and it became very obvious to me that they wanted to force people to play a certain way.

Wrt Mass Effect, I personally think that “space game” shouldn’t just be limited to “flying a spaceship”. I think it’s fair to say spaceships should be part of it, but Halo or KOTOR or any number of other RPGs that are literally all about space aliens and other planets wouldn’t qualify.

I think that Space Sim or certainly Space Combat sub-genres are fair to require actually flying the spacecraft yourself, but Space Games ought to be a big house, imho, to include RPGs and tactics games and even just Alien Planets, so long as the alien part is really the point (which is why I’d consider Stranded: Alien Dawn more of a space game than Rimworld, though it’s a pretty subjective position to be sure).

frog, do gaming w Thoughts on Space Games, Part 1: Top-5 AAA Games

I still have a soft spot for Freelancer, despite all the years that have gone by (and aside from some minor UI issues, plays perfectly on a modern PC), and it still looks remarkably nice for its age, too. The story is pretty linear, and the characters not hugely memorable (despite some voice acting from George Takei, John Rhys-Davies, and Jennifer Hale), but it’s just fun to play. It can be challenging if you want to venture into areas less travelled, but because progress through the game is largely dependent on the money you earn (in-game), if you just want a chill evening, you can just trade goods.

And like… this is a game I’ve been playing on and off for 20 years, and occasionally I still find something new. I played it a couple of months ago, committing to docking with every planet and station… and discovered a new trade route that was both shorter and more profitable than the one I had been using. It probably only cut 10 minutes off my three stage trade run around the entire map, but it was still kind of exciting to go “oooh, I never realised this was an option!” All because I visited a station I don’t usually visit.

t3rmit3,

Yeah, Freelancer is very special. I really think it’s completely unappreciated for how open the world really is, because it’s very easy just to follow the storyline and never just sod off and explore the world. I recently was replaying it with a bunch of mods, and I went exploring the ice asteroid fields in the south end of New York system, and it’s so atmospheric and cool.

frog,

I’ve definitely thought about modding Freelancer, but haven’t quite found the right ones yet. I tried Discovery (I think it was), and felt that the changes to the enemy AI and equipment (such as constantly using shield batteries and nanobots) just made gameplay more frustrating than enjoyable, because it made every single battle challenging - no more just chilling out while hauling random stuff through trade lanes. I’d really love a mod that adds new systems, planets, locations, ships, etc without dramatically changing the gameplay to be exclusively about the combat.

tal, (edited )
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One thing that I think that they did right in Freelancer was to cheap out on the not-in-ship content.

X4 put a lot of work into building up an out-of-the-ship environment that lets you walk around space stations, and I just don’t feel that it added a lot of the environment. There are a lot of things that I’d rather have had done relative to X3.

frog,

Agreed! I think a lot of games benefit from trying to do one thing really well, rather than multiple things badly, and Freelancer is unapologetic about focusing on doing the in-ship stuff well. Games that try to do both the in-ship and not-in-ship elements end up either with both being done badly, or one just feeling like it serves little purpose in the game.

BurnedDonut,

I’m a Freelancer fan as well. I was looking for a game like that since then. And now it seems there is kind of a successor to the Freelancer. store.steampowered.com/app/1111930/Underspace/

frog,

I literally responded to that link with an out loud “oooooooooh!”, my standard “yes I want it” sound. Spiritual successor to Freelancer with Lovecraftian elements? Ticks all the right boxes.

BurnedDonut,

I’m glad you liked it. Enjoy.

Killing_Spark, do gaming w Thoughts on Space Games, Part 1: Top-5 AAA Games

Warframe! I haven’t played in a while but the art style and game in general will always have a place in my heart.

Of the ones on your list I have only played mass effect back in the xbox360 days. It was one of the first games I played. Super good memories. I might need to revisit those if my Xbox is still working

t3rmit3,

I’ve never actually played Warframe, mostly because I’m not really into competitive arena shooters (with CS:GO and Apex being notable exceptions, though I’ve long since left them behind), and from my short glances that’s how it appeared to me. Does it take place in space?

Killing_Spark,

Oh it’s quite different! The gameplay loop is centered around PvE in a cooperative style with a handful of different modes and a ton of different maps. It does take place in space but there are also missions that feel less spacey like the planes of eidolon

t3rmit3,

Huh, interesting. Is it a shared-world-shooter, like Destiny or The Division?

Killing_Spark,

Yep but with the limitation that you will only ever have 4 people in one mission besides some special hubs

Aremel, do games w Elden Ring: Shadows of the Erdtree will come with a day 1 patch with various improvements

These are great QOL changes. I wonder why they waited for the DLC to release them instead of doing it with the colluseum update.

KillerTofu,

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  • Moghul,

    Isn’t this a free update that comes at the same time as the dlc?

    kromem,

    Probably added after that update.

    The new items stuff in particular seems like QoL considerations for “we just added a hundred items to the game for players coming back to it after months away.”

    tb_,
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    Yeah. And consider the verification process games have to go through on consoles, probably easier to do it all in one big update.

    CorrodedCranium, do pcgaming w Anyone have recommendations for STALKER Shadow of Chernobyl mods?
    @CorrodedCranium@leminal.space avatar

    Fun fact for those interested the STALKER series was partially inspired by the book A Roadside Picnic. A movie was released in 1979 that was also inspired by it named Stalker.

    maniacalmanicmania,
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    The audiobook narrated by Robert Forster is also great.

    noxy, do gaming w One week left, tarnished...
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    Mogh. It’s Mogh. Lord of Nihil-ism or whatever.

    SkybreakerEngineer,

    Father of Worf

    4thDimensionDuck,

    or as the community would like to call him “Mohg Lester”

    nix, do gaming w Lf a cooking/restaurant management game (please read description)

    I don’t have any answers for you but do you have any non cooking management sim recommendations?

    Omega_Jimes, do gaming w One week left, tarnished...

    I haven’t beaten it. Life for in the way. One day though, one day…

    magic_lobster_party, do gaming w One week left, tarnished...

    It’s a high number considering it’s an optional boss deep into the game. Usually most people don’t even finish games.

    Piemanding,

    Maybe the number is from the people who have finished the game. Seems way too high to be all players. After looking it up it seems to be true. 34.4% of players have the Mohg achievement. More than any single ending. Also, Age of the Stars ending is higher than the base Elden Lord ending. Kinda funny considering the whole questline needed for that.

    NoneYa, do games w Discussions in the past about not being able to access digital gaming content that users had paid for...

    It was mainly around Ubisoft’s The Crew as the latest conversation. This was about a month ago.

    Ubisoft took the game offline and also removed from customers’ digital libraries with a message suggesting they try the newer installments in the series instead of the game they paid for.

    wowwoweowza,

    Thank you! So many people do not realize that this is coming to everyone who invests in digital games like this.

    ampersandrew,
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    Not all digital games. If they’re DRM free, and if the multiplayer allows for LAN, direct IP connections, private servers, etc; then they’re built to last, arguably better so than physical media.

    Archelon,

    Digital media of any sort, really.

    Broken_Monitor, do gaming w One week left, tarnished...

    I’m guessing a fair number of them don’t even know how to get to him, or that he exists. Definitely far from the hardest boss in the game

    bjoern_tantau, do games w Discussions in the past about not being able to access digital gaming content that users had paid for...
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    Maybe you’re looking for stopkillinggames.com

    wowwoweowza,

    Really important work! Thank you. The EU is good had holding the vultures accountable but USA continues to let them thrive.

    Templa, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of June 9th

    Just finished Dave the Diver and today my spouse gave me Synergy. The game is so pretty and chill.

    sleepybisexual, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of June 9th

    A lot of stardww valley. Been loving it

    gazter, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of June 9th

    I put off Factorio for years, because I knew I’d like it a lot. Had some free time in my life recently, so I went for it.

    Send help.

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