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octomagnus, do gaming w What is your favorite pre-EA Star Wars game?

KOTOR 1+2 and battle front 2.

Oh I can’t forget about the GOAT empire at war.

RebelOne, do gaming w What is your favorite pre-EA Star Wars game?

Star Wars: Rebellion by a long shot. And that’s saying something considering how much I loved Jedi Academy and X-Wing vs TIE.

Having characters run missions that shaped the course of the Galaxy really helped the game write its own stories in the Star Wars universe. Things could happen like Chewie becoming force sensitive, getting trained by Luke, and then Chewie could lead a mission to blow up a Death Star!

The constant cat and mouse game between the Rebels and the Empire was exciting. The game has kind of been reimplemented in a board game by the same name by Fantasy Flight Games. The board game is good, but there’s still magic about the original that I haven’t seen replicated anywhere else.

Benghandhi,

Rebellion was one of my first strategy games and I absolutely loved following the careers of all the characters I read about in the books. It’s what built the foundation of my love for grand strategy games like Stellaris.

Watcher231, do gaming w What is your favorite pre-EA Star Wars game?

Jedi Academy has always been my favorite, love the lightsaber combat in that one

mephiska, do gaming w What is your favorite pre-EA Star Wars game?

Easy. X-wing vs Tie Fighter. Had so much fun with those games on the PC back then.

feifei,

I would go further back and say the original X-Wing and TIE fighter 1993-1994

HowlsSophie, do gaming w Best sub-20 hour games?

Oxenfree, A Night in the Woods, Afterparty, and Gris. Gris is a masterpiece when it comes to visuals but not story-heavy. The other three are entirely story.

silent_g,
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Seconding Oxenfree. It’s one of the few multi-choice/multi-ending games where I was completely content with the ending I got, and didn’t feel like the game ever lied to me or ripped me off for choosing the “wrong” thing. I had stayed away from it for so long because I wasn’t ready to deal with choice anxiety that I get in a lot of games of that type, but for whatever reason, the game never made me feel like that.

HowlsSophie,

Oh yes choice anxiety was definitely a thing. I think I felt that more with Afterparty and even played the game a second time to try to alter things but at the end of the day, I realized it’s not that serious and simply enjoying the game made it a better experience.

Didros, do gaming w Does an MMO with no way to turn money into power exist?

It is not a normal suggestion because the base game is probably the most pay to win mmo that has lasted more than a year or two. But both versions of Runescape (both old school and Runescape 3) have a game mode called ironman mode.

Ironman mode is an official account type that you can create where you can not trade other players items or money. Everything is earned and gathered yourself. If you want to make a bow you need to gather the flax to spin a bow string and chop logs to fletch an unstrung bow and then string it.

It is a slower mmo with most skills in the game having methods to train where you don’t need to pay much attention and you can mostly watch youtube.

Both games also have very mechanically different and difficult combat encounters you can work your way up to.

Maxing out every skill in the game takes year(s) to do and there are hundreds of incredibly unique quests that in my own opinion set the bar for mmo questing. There are no kill 30 boar quests or fetch quests (really) they are mostly very in depth stories with character archs and so much lore if you are into that.

liminis,

Would recommend OS over RS3, because much as I love archaeology, RS3 is overmonetised (I think most of the community agrees with that?), and that seems like a big part of what OP wanted to get away from.

knokelmaat, do gaming w Best sub-20 hour games?

What Remains of Edith Finch is a beautiful game in under 2h.

A Short Hike is a wholesome short little experience, really loved it.

Journey is one of my favorite games of all time and is shorter than most movies.

Titanfall 2 campaign was 6h or something and really cool!

Rentlar, do gaming w Why I Probably Hate your Favorite Video Game's "Awesome Story" (an incomplete list)

Soooo… you’re telling me there’s a game whose story you really love that avoids all these tropes completely? Hmmm… How about Stardew Valley? The premise isn’t entirely unrealistic (leaving a boring corporate job for a dream hobby farm), the story unfolds on its own, you get to decide who you side with, who you become close to and hang out with. Or perhaps you only enjoy franchises that have volumes and volumes of lore behind them to make up for game campaign plots that are too straightforward (Lord of the Rings, Starcraft for example).

Or (like me) your favourite games have little to no story at all. American Truck Simulator, Bloons TD, Age of Empires, Satisfactory, Cities Skylines, Transport Fever are a bunch of my favourite games to play.

If you believe everything you wrote in this post, you are quite hard to please. A game’s plot can’t be too straightforward, yet any surprise twist seems shoehorned in the game. Telling the story through the environment is walking simulator, telling the story through quests is MMORPG Simulator, telling it through Textboxes/Cutscenes is Reading Simulator. Someone hiding something about their character until later in the game is unrealistic, being taken for a ride in a fantasy world is “losing your basic sense of agency”.

Are you playing to try to have fun, escape real life for a bit, or are you playing just to tell people you beat the game? I like games over films and books because you are part of the action and the story, but it’s also part of the game design how far your choices ultimately take you in the world, sometimes they affect everything, sometimes it has no bearing and you’re doomed with what the game has in store.

bermuda, do gaming w Best sub-20 hour games?

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  • TheRoarer,

    I’m pretty upset tf|2 doesn’t have a star. Explain yourself.

    bermuda, do gaming w Why I Probably Hate your Favorite Video Game's "Awesome Story" (an incomplete list)

    your examples are so weirdly vague I think this post would get a proverbial “mega-boost” from some actual examples of video games.

    And I can agree with a few of these but some of them seem so weird. Like, assuming that an episodic story automatically means each episode is self-contained with 1 major conflict is a really archaic way of thinking about episodes. In television, that all but died out in like 2002. And a fixation on things as opposed to people is actually what makes a lot of dystopic writing great. The removal of the “self,” can lead to a feeling of nihilism and can lead the viewer to appreciating how much of the world has lost its life.

    Also, jokes on you, you probably don’t hate my favorite video game’s story because it actually has no story ;)

    koreth, do gaming w Why I Probably Hate your Favorite Video Game's "Awesome Story" (an incomplete list)

    This post begs for a list of games whose stories avoid most or all of these traps.

    I’ll start with an easy one: Disco Elysium.

    lordnorthiii, do gaming w Why I Probably Hate your Favorite Video Game's "Awesome Story" (an incomplete list)

    Very entertaining post. Would love to know the titles of the games that inspired these categories, but not a bad idea to keep those to yourself.

    HappyFrog, do gaming w Why I Probably Hate your Favorite Video Game's "Awesome Story" (an incomplete list)

    Strawman

    karbonkel, do gaming w Why I Probably Hate your Favorite Video Game's "Awesome Story" (an incomplete list)

    Tell me your parents never read stories to you, without telling me your parents never read stories to you.

    NuPNuA,

    I was thinking first year media studies at uni.

    TheKracken, do gaming w Best sub-20 hour games?

    Ori and the blind forest is a great platformer that is about 8-10 hours long.

    Donut County is a fun little game that takes about 5 hours or less.

    Axiom Verge (and 2) is a neat Metroid like game that is around 15 hrs.

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