Sounds like it’s not the game for you. Overcoming environmental challenges is kind of the name of the game, and if the baseline “cold bad but fire hot” thing isn’t something you enjoy then I’m not sure you would enjoy trying to navigate any of the main story areas in the game.
Right? This is the first time ive heard a complaint about not being able to solve the weather problem. How much of a problem would the rest of the game be if you cant solve this.
It did finally click for me, but it took well over a year. Someone told me to play for a couple weeks with no goals, and that finally made it happen. I didn’t put it down for another hundred hours.
I wanted to like this game but the story was just so uninteresting to me that I had to put it down. I know not everyone is like me but as someone who adored the stories in oot and majoras mask, I couldn’t do it man.
Yeah TOTK story was better in that you’re unraveling a mystery instead of just seeing stuff that already happened. Technically the stuff in TOTK also “already happened”, and mechanically it’s pretty much identical, but imo the way it’s framed makes it much more interesting and compelling. I think the key is you’re seeing these events in order to uncover new information, whereas BOTWs flashbacks didn’t really give you any useful information, just filled in the details of a story you already had the cliff notes for.
Agreed fully that TotK story is much much better that BotW.
I went straight from BotW to Elden Ring though, so they took my score down. Elden’s gameplay, story, and world are unmatched by any other open-world game. The world is so full and flush and ALIVE. There’s oodles of empty space in the open-world Zelda games, and there’s so few enemy types. I still love the games, but as a late late Elden Ring adopter, I have a new impossible standard for a world… that’s open.
Not sure if this helps you, but there are some really good mods that reduce or eliminate some of the irritating gimmicks in the game. I played with a double weapon durability mod that makes the game feel way better.
The weapons breaking and stuff is whatever, eventually you just tune it out. They shower you with new stuff constantly, so the idea is to use a little of everything. No comment on whether that’s a good or bad thing, it’s probably the most divisive part of the game. Just is what it is.
You do get permanent loot in the form of clothing (which can have interesting special properties) and powers and such
Really wish they’d exempted the Master Sword from the durability mechanic, especially given how much effort it takes before you can even get it (I think it’s something like ~80/120 shrines or else it kills you?) and how not OP it is in actual practice.
It doubles in strength and I think is unbreakable inside the final dungeon and possibly against guardians as well. Can tell for sure because it starts glowing
As others said, the game is all about exploration and overcoming the environment as much as it is about hacking and slashing monsters. The weapons break, but they are plentiful and there is a wide variety to try put anyway with different strengths and properties. It encourages you to explore more (both to find cool weapons and to grow your storage capacity), use different types of attacks and prioritize weapons for different types of enemies. But, if all else fails, even a stick off a tree can be used in a pinch. And there are environmental weapons and sheikh slate utilities that never run out.
The dialog with characters is often helpful for learning some of the mechanics. If you are required to do something, guaranteed there is some character, book, or dungeon to teach you how to do it early on. On the plateau, the old man is your guy. Talk to him for tips. Even better for those who enjoy exploration, though, there are usually multiple ways to overcome the same challenges and they let you discover some of those on your own instead of hand holding.
If you want a helpful tip on this specific problem, read on. If not, stop here.
The cold environment will make you freeze to death, but there are multiple ways to overcome this. Warm clothes. Campfires. Even eating spicy food. There are even some fun more subtle ways I’ll let you discover for yourself. You can also always just say “screw it” and just run in naked if you want and keep pounding apples to refill your hearts if that’s your jam. But the simplest way to handle the cold on the mountain at the start is to get a torch and light it on fire at a campfire (you can find a fire where you first saw the old man coming down from the shrine of resurrection, or in bokoblin camps, if you dont yet know how to make one yourself). Unlike other weapons that catch fire, a torch will never burn up or go out until you stow it away. 'Cause it’s a torch. That’s what torches do. The mechanics of the game often hold up to common sense like that. So just carry a lit torch and it’s heat will keep you warm enough to get to the top. Just don’t stow it until you’re back at the bottom. Job done.
A large part of the progression in BOTW (and to a lesser extent, its sequel) is getting the means to permanently or at least easily deal with the various types of environmental challenges, to the point that the ones that were tough to surmount in the early game aren’t even really an inconvenience in the end.
These are, in no particular order:
Areas that are cold.
Areas that are hot.
Areas that are on fire.
Eventually finding stronger weapons that don’t break as fast.
Getting better armor, and improving it, to make combat easier.
Getting a horse to make traveling to new areas easier.
Improving your maximum health and more importantly, max stamina so you can climb more stuff and glide longer distances.
Getting a movement technique that allows you to yeet yourself to the top of objects.
FWIW, if you stick to the “intended” path on the Great Plateau (the starting area of the game, where you seem to be) the old man will explicitly tell you what to do to deal with the cold. There are actually multiple solutions for getting up there without freezing your nads off.
spoilerThe most straightforward one is to use one of the cooking pots, either the one at the old man’s cabin or the one outside of the cave where you first meet him, to cook up some spicy peppers and eat them. This gives you a time limited buff that makes you immune to the cold. You can also carry a lit torch, which keeps you warm as long as you’re holding it. You can also find the recipes for two special cold resistance dishes in the old man’s cabin if you read his diary on the table, and if you bring him both of these at the top of the mountain he’ll give you the Warm Doublet, a piece of armor that permanently protects you from cold. But anything you cook a spicy pepper into will give you a cold resistance buff.
Sometimes games (even critically acclaimed ones) just aren’t your thing and that’s ok. Just need to do what works for you.
I’ve had similar experiences with some of my favourite franchises - I think the new Final Fantasy game is terrible for example even though others love it and I’ve enjoyed the others from 1-15.
I got farther than you, but felt all of those things didn't really improve or feel as fun. The weapon breaking is annoying. I feel like it's too quick.
Edit: I eventually gave up after the 'first' boss (I know you can do them any order, but water blight is generally considered the easier one to do first).
BotW and TotK are a very different type of game from OoT. As others have pointed out, there are a lot of environmental mechanics to learn as well as how to find and use different types of weapons due to weapon durability. It’s a much more open ended game than OoT where exploration is much more of a focus, whereas OoT is more story focused and has a more specific order to do things (which isn’t 100% set in stone, as the whole Spirit vs Shadow Temple debate proves) that’s still more straightforward than the newer games. I like both types of games, especially for both OoT and BotW/TotK being gaming masterpieces for their time, and the three of them are my top 3 Zelda games for sure. But if you don’t like one or more of them that’s perfectly fine. Not every game will appeal to everyone.
Fun fact, Spirit and Shadow aren’t the only temples in that game you can do out of order. You can do the Fire Temple first, as there is only one chest that requires arrows and it doesn’t have anything crazy important in it. Water Temple can also be cleared without arrows, but you do have to get a bit more creative with some non-intuitive jumps and either saving and resetting or using a warp song to go back to the dungeon entrance without raising the water level in order to do that. Spirit Temple does require arrows but nothing else from the other dungeons is required so you could do it as early as your second dungeon. Even then I think you can abuse invincibility frames to skip an eye switch and I can’t remember anything else that required arrows in there. Shadow Temple is the most restrictive, but only because you have to clear Forest, Fire, and Water in order to gain access to it. Once you’re actually in the dungeon you’ll find that arrows are the only item from the other dungeons you actually have to use to beat it.
The weapon breaking is annoying, even in TotK still. It‘d be more bearable if you could at least repair broken stuff at a blacksmith or something, but as it is, I’m scared to lose my cool stuff to a buncha gremlins. So I‘m hoarding the good stuff and cope with poor throw-away weapons…
It‘s a bit like the „elixiers“ situation in old FF games: Game‘s over and you have 22 unused elixiers you saved for when you really need them.
While I find it a shame that modern Zelda games have left the formula behind, I do believe the old Zelda formula has gotten stale and that the franchise was ready for an overhaul. Before BotW the main line console games in the series have pretty much the same progression mechanics since LttP, the only exception is Majora’s Mask. Twilight Princess and Skyward sword were boring for me because they were way too predictable. I do like the openness of the new Zelda games but I get what your saying the games feel too much like a playground instead of an immersive fantasy game.
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