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amio, do gaming w Why do mobile games suck nowadays?

What do you mean, "nowadays"? Mobile games always sucked.

cordlesslamp,

I beg to differ. Angry Bird, cut the rope, where’s my water, Space RPG, FRUIT Ninja, and a whole lot more, are classic mobile games in the beginning. They’re sometimes simple, yes, but at least there’s efforts in it to try to be original.

Nowadays, it’s all Freemium p2w cash grab.

kratoz29,
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That you didn’t like them doesn’t mean they sucked, look along this thread and you’ll find ppl sharing titles worthwhile back then (me included), ofc, this is not GOTY material, but a game must not be a masterpiece in order to be enjoyable, which ultimately is what all games are for, to be an enjoyable hobby.

chameleon, do gaming w Why do mobile games suck nowadays?
@chameleon@kbin.social avatar

If you're a gamedev trying to make a decent mobile game, you're competing on all the usual fronts like price and perceived quality, but competing for attention has gotten a whole lot harder when [arbitrary card game] has a hour of dailies, [arbitrary gacha game] always has a special campaign going and [arbitrary fake gambling game] is about to have its battle pass end and they're only halfway through. And that has gone up by so, so much over the past decade. It was never good but it's gotten absolutely egregious. At this point, even any generic snake clone will have a battle pass.

Every person that ends up committed to a couple of those long-term-commitment games ends up having much less time for other games. And they make a lot of money, which means they also end up having a hell of a marketing budget.

frog, do gaming w Why do mobile games suck nowadays?

You get what you pay for. If you download a free game, then of course it’s going to be full of pay-to-win microtransactions. Although there are issues with greed in some larger games run by big companies, the reality is that game devs deserve to earn a living too, and that means at some point a game needs to be paid for.

There are still plenty of good quality mobile games out there, they just don’t tend to be free to download. Back when I had more free time, I actually got good usage out of the Play Pass on Android, which was £5 a month and gave me access to a catalogue of excellent mobile games with no microtransactions at all, the vast majority of which were single-player, offline games. Literally the only reason I’m not still subscribed is I just don’t have time to play mobile games at the moment - the chances of me subscribing again over the summer when I’m not at uni is high.

stardust,

You also don’t get what you pay for when it comes to mobile. Had some games get delisted so it’s not even downloadable anymore and even though I kept it on my phone I can’t run it because it fails the license check. Mobile game isn’t worth spending money on.

autumn, do gaming w What is your favourite game console?
@autumn@beehaw.org avatar

assuming “PC” doesn’t count… i’ll be a basic bitch and say nintendo switch. it’s the one i’ve played the most games on.

tamlyn,
@tamlyn@lemmy.zip avatar

I’m not the OP, but if you had the most fun on PC, it’s for me the only correct answer.

Melkath, do gaming w Why do mobile games suck nowadays?

Same problem that is crippling every human interaction on earth.

Money and greed.

It all goes to "we can do a good thing that will help people or that people will enjoy" or "we can make crap/do horrible things and get another 5 bucks off each of em", and the latter is always chosen.

Blxter, do gaming w Why do mobile games suck nowadays?
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Not gonna lie I’m still hitting clash of clans… Paid for maybe 5 months of gold pass but no longer been playing since I was in middle school. Took like 6 years off though

teradome, do gaming w Maybe hot take: as a handheld, the regular switch is an awful handheld

Not a hot take at all. It was revolutionary for the first year it was released and then was quickly surpassed on every front by any company that put slightly more effort (and more cost) into any part of the switch: graphics, sensors, controllers, expandability, etc. Pretty stock for any Nintendo product, because they only focus on hardware that be produced mass-market and get good profit margins on. Which means it’s often made with current-to-dated components that can get overlooked because it’s the only platform you can play Nintendo games on. Also, not sure why they are so allergic to ergonomics, all the way back to the NES controller, the least comfortable controller of its peers

VinesNFluff, do gaming w What is your favourite game console?
@VinesNFluff@pawb.social avatar

Likely the PS2. Simply for the breadth of stuff it can play.

quenpwn, do gaming w Why do mobile games suck nowadays?
@quenpwn@kbin.social avatar

Gacha games

Fizz, do gaming w A personal argument for a benefit of gaming
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

Honestly beating that game at such a young age shows a lot of problem solving capability. However getting angry at games is a habit you want to nip in the butt asap.

Kolanaki,
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Getting angry isn’t the problem. It’s how you deal with it. Smashing your game system and or TV ain’t the best way to go about it.

loops, do gaming w Why do mobile games suck nowadays?

The only good games on phone are now emulators and a few Foss games

Always has been.

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sleepybisexual,

Nah, angry birds used to be good and supercell stuff was OK before it went down the shitter

DJDarren,

I was ok with the Angry Birds franchise right up until the shitty kart racing game they pumped out. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a more wretched collection of bare-faced advertising and micro transactions as that fucking piece of shit.

The game was crammed full of new pop songs, and when one would play the game would display a link to buy it from iTunes. I couldn’t let my kid play it, it was just too egregious.

Haven’t touched any of those games since. Which is a shame, because I really enjoyed the original.

Moonrise2473, (edited )

That kart game was genius programming, give you a few initial levels where it let you think that you’re driving the kart, that you’re winning because of your skills, then start the real routine of “autopilot simulator programmed to lose until you activate the paid power ups”

Edit: and I can’t believe that more than ten years passed from the release of that “game”, I remember I was playing it on my BlackBerry Z10, i can see why many itt are saying “always has been shitty” - just a year before they weren’t shitty. Gameloft released games like “9mm” and “batman the dark knight” that for just one dollar were console like experiences. And beach buggy racing, and riptide.

card797, do gaming w What is your favourite game console?

SNES Aerobiz: Supersonic. Greatest game of my life.

Kolanaki, do gaming w Why do mobile games suck nowadays?
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Nowadays

Lol they’ve always sucked.

sleepybisexual,

Nostalgia ain’t what it meant to be

I’m not even 16, why do I feel ancient

TachyonTele,

Take this as a life lesson, and understand that while your view of things changes as you get older, most things generally stay the same.

sleepybisexual,

You sure about that? Lot of stuff went to shit these past 5 years

TachyonTele,

You’re not wrong about that.

sleepybisexual,

Yea :c

Zoop,

I’m not even 16, why do I feel ancient

I don’t know if this will help you, but I think that’s pretty normal. I felt similarly at your age in some ways and in other ways I felt like a baby, depending on how I looked at things. I still feel that way and I’m twice your age! It’s weird. Growing up is weird. I feel for you. 💖

sleepybisexual,

Thank you :3

Zoop,

Of course! :)

GammaGames, do gaming w What is your favourite game console?

If I had to pick all time? 3DS! It has sooo many games with supporting the DS and 3DS library, DSiWare, and of course homebrew.

If I’m picking my current favorite I’ve got to go with the Playdate. It’s portable and has a lot of fun small-scale games.

(yes I like handholds why do you ask)

sleepybisexual,

The 3ds is a damn good system. I just hate the n3ds cstick

GammaGames,

I never had a n3ds! Couldn’t bear parting with my animal crossing poptart edition

popcar2, do gaming w Why do mobile games suck nowadays?

It’s a two part story:

  1. The mobile market mostly targets kids and boomers and their resistance to microtransactions has been basically non-existent, making the market quickly become predatory and full of spam
  2. Modern app stores have become abysmal, making it impossible for smaller games to see the light of day. 99% of google play is a dumpster fire, and the 1% that is decent isn’t published by a multi-billion dollar company so you’re unlikely to ever see it. There are good games out there, but the way the algorithms and ads work makes them constantly pushed down in the list. This isn’t “a problem” to a company like Google because they’re making bank off of all these ad spaces.

Anyways, most good games are paid, but here’s a list of stuff I’ve enjoyed playing on mobile:

  • Fancy Pants Adventures
  • Bloons TD 6
  • Dicey Dungeons
  • Dead Cells
  • Slay the Spire (but the mobile port is rough on small screens)
  • Knights of Pen and Paper +1
  • The Enchanted Cave 2
  • Let’s Create! Pottery
  • BAIKOH
  • Data Wing

Probably a lot more I forgot. Have at it.

sleepybisexual,

Yea. It was always bad, just got worse. Nowadays j just emulate old games. My main phone game is road rash for gbc

InfiniWheel,

Don’t forget Plants vs Zombies 2. Which despite some micro transactions, definitely held up in its early days. Rather, I’d say it got do either dirty from balancing issues rather than greed.

Minnels,

Add slice & dice. But on itch to get it both on pc and android. It is great.

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