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Oneeightnine, do games w F-Zero 99 is fun but too repetitive.
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Having a lot of fun with it, but I’m not really that nostalgic for F-Zero, despite playing a fair bit of it back in the day.

Now give me a Super Mario Kart version of this sort of thing and I’ll be totally sold.

Pxtl,
@Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

Mario Kart 64 Balloon Battle 64

all-knight-party,
@all-knight-party@kbin.cafe avatar

Nintendo hire this man

sirdorius, do games w What are some great open source games?
  • Battle for Wesnoth
  • Mindustry is the clear winner though
Other, do games w What are some great open source games?

FlightGear is a great open source flight simulator, that keeps getting updates regularly.

Kaloi, do games w What are some great open source games?

Forge, the open sourced MTG client. It’s written in java, fully portable with an android version even. Full rules enforcement, an incredibly active dev community with the new sets implemented pretty quickly after release. I’ve honestly put more hours into just playing against the AI in 4v4 commander games than most steam games I own.

github.com/Card-Forge/forge

MaxVoltage,
@MaxVoltage@lemmy.world avatar

wait with this i can play magic the gathering for free?

Addition,

Yes*

It’s got all the cards with art, a good deck builder, and it supports multiple game modes, including Commander. It’s also got bot players that are good to test decks against and it forces game rules, so it’s good for learning.

*I’ve never gotten the multiplayer to work. My friends use Cockatrice for that. (Also FOSS) Cockatrice is clunkier and much more manual to use but, the multiplayer works.

dhork, do games w What are some great open source games?

Nethack

Gamey, do games w What are some great open source games?

The selection isn’t huge to begin with but shattered pixel dungeon is a great one, it’s cross platform but I love to play it on my phone when I am bored!

Ludrol, do zapytajszmer w Chat gpt
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spróbuj poszukać coś co używa llama2 np. stable horde

smort, do games w What are some great open source games?
@smort@lemmy.world avatar

Endless Sky

It’s a single player, top-down, 2D space combat and trading game. If you ever played Escape Velocity back in the mid 90s(?), it’s essentially a clone of that setting and gameplay.

store.steampowered.com/app/404410/Endless_Sky/

endless-sky.github.io

0ddysseus,

Should also be available in most Linux Repo’s from what I know.

Try not to crush me for the wrong words there, its 3am

TootSweet, do games w Weekly what have you been playing discussion - week of September, 18, 2023

Tears of the Kingdom. I’m determined to 100% it like I did Breath of the Wild.

maynarkh, do games w Game wikis just aren't as popular anymore?

I don’t know if it’s just anecdotal, but it feels like a lot of content is moving to Youtube. People make a 10+ min video out of what used to be a paragraph on a wiki site.

HYPERBOLE_TRAIN,

I’ll give you my reasoning as someone who used to heavily use Wikis but now heads to YouTube:

As much as I hate the ads on YouTube, the ads on wikis actually make it harder to process and distill the information I’m searching for. YouTube will get there eventually too but for now it is the most efficient way to gather information.

blanketswithsmallpox,

Do you actually keep ads on, on purpose? I know people turn Ublock Origin off for certain creators for youtube, but browsing the internet at large would definitely be a different experience.

Wiki sites are free too so they’d have to be ad riddled…

blanketswithsmallpox,

Yeah I’ve actually had to resort to this a few times with Armored Core 6 specifically. It seemed like Wiki sites just didn’t have the detail for each spot, but did have generalized information for each mission for example. But the extra tidbits for each just straight up wasn’t filled in. I’d google, find a gaming website which had some info, but literally not all of it. It was also in the classic ‘recipe’ style bullshit website where you get through 3 full screens of fluff before what I needed.

I decided I’d help where I could but it came to me after playing two more games in that time that EVERY free wiki site had the same issue. I just don’t remember that problem 3-5+ years ago.

Anomander,
@Anomander@kbin.social avatar

I normally hate turning to Youtube when there's a text resource available, but I've definitely found there are some situations where explaining a trick or a location in text is massively harder than just watching someone do it in a video.

HooPhuckenKarez,

I'm a mechanic irl, and I have this issue all the time. I don't need a 12 minute 38 second video to show me how to get some particular bits apart, while text and long lost pictures don't work very well either.

DrQuint,

There’s this guy who made maps of more than 200 games on GameFAQs and he’s my hero

Pxtl,
@Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

Youtube lets creators monetize their content, wikis don’t. Everything is a hustle now.

blanketswithsmallpox,

Even that feels sketch though. Most of the actual info I really needed had less than 10,000 views. Usually more in the 2-3k range which makes jack squat on Youtube dollars.

hightrix,

Call me an old geezer, but I can’t stand videos for about 95% of all video game guides. They are either too slow or too fast, and include 10 mins of talking for “and the hot key you are looking for is H”.

Psythik,

This is why I only look for the videos where the uploader is showing their screen, and then watch them at 10x speed (using the Enhancer For YouTube addon) with the sound on mute.

DrQuint,

We need sponsorskip to shorten tutorial type videos

jjjalljs,

I’ve been thinking lately that a lot of people are way worse at reading comprehension than I would have guessed. Like, there’s a large chunk of the population where reading is difficult and uncomfortable. Of course they prefer YouTube.

We’d rarely encounter these people on a text first medium like here.

Jabbawacky,

I can’t stand listening to them. 99% of people doing these videos, any videos, on YouTube have no concept or idea of how to actually talk properly to an audience. I don’t want to have to skip through someone fucking mumbling in an indecipherable accent to find what I need.

Give me written instructions/guides. It’s faster, I can re-read easily at my own pace (fast!) and I don’t get annoyed by someone’s nasally voice. Yes I’m an older one too.

Sabin10, do games w Game wikis just aren't as popular anymore?

There was nothing wrong with the gamefaqs model, not every game needs or deserves a fully fleshed out wiki. Wikis are great if you want to know more about a game universe and its characters but are pretty awful as walkthroughs.

blanketswithsmallpox, (edited )

Agreed. I could completely understand why Gamefaq FAQ creators stopped though.

It’s A LOT of work. For no payoff besides name recognition and being a good guy. If there were community built GameFAQs sure, but they’re by author. I’ve never seen a community based Walkthrough in the classic text based only format.

jedibob5, (edited ) do games w Game wikis just aren't as popular anymore?

I wonder how much it has to do with how much of a shithole the Fandom network is. Between the godawful UX, aggressive SEO to bury competing wikis in search results, and scummy business practices that effectively prevent wiki admins from migrating to other hosts, the idea of maintaining a game wiki probably isn’t all that appealing these days.

I miss Wikia…

Illecors,

Would you care to elaborate on what’s preventing wiki admins from migrating?

jedibob5, (edited )

They don’t actually let admins shut down their wikis or remove content from them. They can leave and start a new wiki, but they have to leave the old one in place (for which Fandom could potentially just find new admins), and they can only link to the new wiki from the Fandom wiki for a period of two weeks. With Fandom’s SEO, there’s a good chance the Fandom wiki will still be ahead of search results of a new wiki even after migration. Source

ono,

I wonder if this could be mitigated (or even nullified) by a cooperative game developer, through DMCA takedown notices sent to Fandom. There is a lot of art on these wikis, after all, and I imagine the copyright holder has some say in who is allowed to distribute it.

Illecors,

Thank you. I’ve been dabbling with the idea of establishing a non-profit for my lemmy instance. I’m not a user of game/movie/etc wikis, but I do love looking after my servers. I wonder if a non-profit owned wiki site bear any weight over time.

DrQuint,

Man this was an issue already some 10 years ago when touhou wiki went self-hosted. It took a whole year for google to get memo and link the new one above the old.

Nowadays I assume it’s pretty much impossible to reverse the flow unless if your game is huge and highly sought after.

EnglishMobster,

What are they going to do? Ban them?

Honestly if I was migrating away from Fandom I’d do everything I can to burn every bridge. Go through and edit every page to have every link redirect to the better wiki. Ignore their 2-week period, and don’t inform the Fandom overlords that the wiki is being shut down (it’s not like they’re going to check without being prompted).

I’d make them ban me, and then good luck finding an admin.

jedibob5,

It’s not too hard to roll back changes on a wiki. Any attempts at sabotage wouldn’t be very difficult to undo.

AlexWIWA,

I am forever grateful that halopedia rolled their own wiki and was spared from the fandom plague.

deranger,

Another stark comparison is UESP vs. Fandom for elder scrolls lore. Fandom is absolute cancer, poor UX even with an adblocker.

AlexWIWA,

Yeah I find it completely unusable. I can’t use wookiepedia anymore because it is just awful to use. Like you said, it’s awful even with an ad blocker

bionicjoey,

UESP is such a gem

GrammatonCleric,
@GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Wikidot was the shit for Dark Souls games 😙👌

ono, (edited ) do games w Game wikis just aren't as popular anymore?

It doesn’t surprise me at all that people have become less willing to contribute to wikis, now that the likes of Fandom/Wikia and Fextralife are the dominant wiki hosts. Who wants to give away their free labour and time to profit corporations, and have their work mired in cesspools of obnoxious advertising, awkward javascript interfaces, and web tracking?

I think what we need are independent wiki hosts. For example, have a look at bg3.wiki

blanketswithsmallpox, (edited )

Yeah I remember seeing an article about Baldur’s Gate 3 having a wiki being unique.

Simple fact is that hosting costs $$$. And you don’t get something free unless there’s ads involved or you’re so small you can cover the cost yourself.

ono, (edited )

Perhaps there’s an opportunity here for a nonprofit organization, accepting donations like wikimedia does, to offer hosting to gaming communities?

Edit:

This would not only benefit gamers directly, but also help with cultural preservation, which is increasingly problematic as games disappear from store fronts.

Also, a wiki run by a funded organization is less likely to vanish than one operated by a single person, whose circumstances might change.

JackGreenEarth,

Terraria wiki is not a fandom site

ono, (edited )

I expect you mean terraria.wiki.gg, rather than terraria.fandom.com (which was the first result in my web search). I don’t love the fact that it has a google tracker, but otherwise, it looks nice.

Looks like Pokémon also has an independent (but not tracker-free) wiki: bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net

JackGreenEarth,

Yeah, terraria.wiki.gg is the official site.

DrQuint,

Pokemon even has another wiki that’s almost entirely dedicated to game data, Serebii, and yes, the design is dated, and yes, it is also the most accurate and concise source of knowledge for the series.

AlexWIWA,

To help your point. Halopedia is still extremely active and will have info from new books within a week. The site has their own software and it’s community run, so people still feel engaged.

I think you’re entirely on the money

Fedizen, do games w Game wikis just aren't as popular anymore?

It does seem like we need kind of a federated network of wikis.

Paradox,
@Paradox@lemdro.id avatar

The creator of wikis is way ahead of you:

fed.wiki/view/federated-wiki

ShadowRam, (edited ) do games w Game wikis just aren't as popular anymore?

Was it a few years ago Fandom started buying up all these wiki websites?

Then they started with the ads and it all went to shit.

There were a bunch of games that had to move their shit off Fandom because it was a mess..

Now when you want an answer to a simple question, you have to fast track through a some rando's 5min youtube video to get the answer, where they could have put the answer in the title.

Satisfactory and Path of Exile are two games in recent memory that specifically moved their official wiki's away from Fandom,

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Satisfactory_Wiki

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Path_of_Exile_Wiki

HooPhuckenKarez,

Coffee Stain Studios seem really give an actual shit about their fans.

Summzashi,

Personally love UESP. It was there way before fandom and will be there long after.

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