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Maggoty, (edited ) do games w PEGI gives Balatro an 18+ rating for gambling imagery

Loot boxes suck but the only thing separating this game from gambling is the use of real money. It’s literally a poker game.

This is the Steam Store description -

Combine valid poker hands with unique Joker cards in order to create varied synergies and builds. Earn enough chips to beat devious blinds, all while uncovering hidden bonus hands and decks as you progress. You’re going to need every edge you can get in order to reach the boss blind, beat the final ante and secure victory.

Yeah they were always going to get PEGI 18. This moaning is just a way to sell their game.

ech,

It’s literally not.

static09,

In Balatro, the Ante is the boss’s health and chips are the amount of damage done to a boss. The poker hands are just attacks done to the boss’s health. They use poker terms because it’s inspired by card games, not because there’s gambling.

Maggoty,

I didn’t say there was and neither did PEGI. The issue is all the terminology and visuals are gambling related. This is like giving a cigarette smoker a nicotine vape and saying it’s not cigarettes. It’s technically true but you’d be insane to authorize it for kids.

Tarquinn2049,

The whole point of the post is real gambling is rated as totally safe for kids. As long as it doesn’t use card or poker chips as imagery. Why is getting kids to actually gamble ok? Why is imagery associated with gambling so much worse than actual gambling for kids?

Maggoty,

No the whole point of this post is performative outrage as marketing. They knew exactly what rating a faux casino game was going to get them.

IzzyScissor,

This analogy is garbage. The “nicotine vape for kids” isn’t Balatro, it’s loot boxes. Balatro would be like candy cigarettes.

Maggoty,

Funny you should mention candy cigarettes.

Whether it’s candy cigarettes or a nicotine vape depends purely on the person playing the game. A gambling addict could easily see this as their nicotine vape, and it could easily prime kids for casinos.

sukhmel,

A good link, maybe image may be harmful even if it’s without context

BlueMagma,

You meant “chocolate cigarette” for your analogy, I remember they used to exists when I was a kid, don’t know if they still do.

Maggoty,

Funny you should mention candy cigarettes.

Whether it’s candy cigarettes or a nicotine vape depends purely on the person playing the game. A gambling addict could easily see this as their nicotine vape, and it could easily prime kids for casinos.

KinglyWeevil,

The only gambling in this game is picking the goddamn wheel card even though I know it’s going to give me “nope!”

Tarquinn2049,

So then explain why games with actual real money gambling aren’t rated 18+, is gambling “imagery” with no gambling really that much worse than having actual gambling?

Maggoty,

Ask PEGI why loot boxes aren’t rated 18+, I’m not defending them.

BradleyUffner,

Yahtzee uses “valid poker hands” and dice for scoring too. They sell that in toy stores.

Maggoty,

Yatzhee is dice. It uses combinations of numbers. They turn into points. Before you make any other ridiculous comparisons the idea is to perform to standard. Not to lower the standard. Gambling is a serious addiction and making games about it is a serious issue.

Tarquinn2049,

You can’t gamble with dice?

Soggy,

I played Yahtzee once and now I hustle back alley Craps foe drug money.

Maggoty,

If you want to be reductive everything is gambling. Even your birth.

Tarquinn2049,

I mean the kinds of gambling that might trigger someone with a gambling addiction. Isn’t that where you were coming from?

damnedfurry,

Yatzhee is dice.

So is craps, one of the most popular casino games on the planet.

BeardedBlaze,
@BeardedBlaze@lemmy.world avatar

These games not only have poker in the name, they are literally casino sims, and you play against other players:

store.steampowered.com/app/…/Prominence_Poker/

…playstation.com/…/UP2070-CUSA01104_00-UPUREPOKER…

Both pegi 12. Your argument is flawed.

ms_lane,

Two wrongs don’t make a right.

Teepo,

Balatro doesn’t have anything like gambling. There’s no betting. You don’t even have an opponent. The chips are only points, and the goal is to get as high a score as you can. The rules vary wildly from poker in ways that could never work with multiple players, let alone with real cards. It just looks like poker at the start and that description helps give you an initial idea of how to play.

derpgon, do games w PEGI gives Balatro an 18+ rating for gambling imagery

Fuck PEGI, their ratings always sucked and weren’t useful at all. Full blown swearing? 13+. One cigar through 500 hours of gameplay? Adults only. Never cared, never will.

rimjob_rainer,

Violence and gore? 13+. Some boobs? Adults only.

Killing good, love bad.

wizardbeard,
@wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

And people pretend that only American ratings systems pull this kind of bullshit.

SaharaMaleikuhm,

If anybody knows about love it’s rimjob_rainer.

slaacaa, (edited ) do games w PEGI gives Balatro an 18+ rating for gambling imagery

He probably forgot to funnel millions of dollars to non-profits and businesses adjacent to PEGI decisionmakers and their family members. Rookie mistake.

SleepyPie, do gaming w what's a game that has you like:

Siralim Ultimate. It’s like Pokémon but your party is essentially a machine built from passive effect interactions and the gameplay is like Diablo.

Absolute hidden gem.

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Recently started playing and it reminded me of when I used to play MtG and tried to build decks with broken combos.

Missmuffet, do gaming w what's a game that has you like:

Final fantasy 14

acockworkorange, do gaming w Inspired by another post

Might be a hot take, but reporting on that just generates the wrong kind of buzz.

Goingdown, do gaming w what's a game that has you like:

Kingdom Come Deliverance. Low fantasy, no map marker (in hard mode), no superhumans or anything too fancy…

TheFriar,

Is this the most recent Kingdom Come 2? I’d been thinking of getting it myself, I play great stories over and over (RDR2, Cyberpunk, Alan Wake 2). But I’ve literally played them all so much that I’m about to be tired of replaying them. So I need a new game to 100% complete, this and STALKER2 have been on my list, but S2 hasn’t been released for ps5.

Goingdown,

Is this the most recent Kingdom Come 2? I’d been thinking of getting it myself

No, first one. 2 has not been released yet.

roguetrick, do games w PEGI gives Balatro an 18+ rating for gambling imagery

Reminds me of that Australian law that was proposed to make anything with a relation to casino games Restricted 18 but merely mature for exploitative slot machine loot box mechanics.

HawlSera,

I haven’t seen Loot Boxes in a game in awhile, I kinda prefer those to FOMO…

I think the perfect system is you earn Loot Boxes by playing that can contain anything, but you can buy the specific things you want at any time, the boxes themselves are unlocked through gameplay.

Heroes of the Storm did this, and god I miss that game.

I wish DBD did it

v4ld1z,

HOTS 2.0 did so much good, man. It’s a shame the game’s basically dead. Was a lot of fun to play with my brother

I realised that what brought me back to League was Wild Rift. Maybe of HOTS had a “mobile” adaptation, I’d come back. Just not much (if at all) a PC gamer nowadays

HawlSera,

There were rumors Microsoft were going to revive it, which lead to people playing the game, which lead to it getting balance patches again… but no new content drops sadly

v4ld1z,

Soon™

jagungal,

Sounds about right. I’d seen “slot machines” (we call em poker machines or “the pokies”) more times than I can remember before I was 18.

youstolemyname,
@youstolemyname@lemmy.world avatar

“the pokies”

You ever Google that?

jagungal,

No, why?

dj1936, do zapytajszmer w Program do zamiany głosu na tekst
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Hej! Taki mały update:

dziękuję szmerze, że istniejesz, bo bardzo mi pomogliście z tym!

Używam Speech Note z językiem faster whisper large v3 i jest nieźle (sporo trzeba edytować), ale pomaga. A może ktoś inny język polski wybrał w ustawieniach i jest lepiej?

Lubię podgrupę “zapytajszmer” tutaj <3

cliffracerflyyy, do games w PEGI gives Balatro an 18+ rating for gambling imagery

Steer clear of clowns emojis, bub.

kibiz0r, do gaming w what's a game that has you like:

Descenders

Idk why. Well, I do know why: I grew up in an era where Flash games started to do physics-based gameplay, and something about that just made them endlessly replayable and easy to do while focusing on something else like a lecture or whatever.

So many games these days demand your full attention. And that’s great, when you have time for it. But if I just have 45 minutes to derp around while I catch up with friends on Discord, I can’t dive into an epic boss fight that I was prepping for a month ago.

turtle, do gaming w what's a game that has you like:

Project Zomboid, even though I’m not into zombie lore.

  • Isometric perspective graphics, one of my favorite game perspectives
  • Open world, open-ended, sandbox play with enough of a game objective to not be boring
  • Hardcore survival with deep, often surprising mechanics
  • Amazing multiplayer experiences
  • Loads of suspense and tension
  • Constant development from a small, totally independent team
  • Incredible array of community mods

I would love to see other games in the same vein using other scenarios besides zombies, like maybe warzone survival, etc.

DScratch,

You say “open ended” but it’s not. Project Zomboid has one ending.

turtle,

Haha, true. Infinite paths to reach the one ending, but still one ending. ;)

dj1936, do zapytajszmer w Dlaczego ja? Odcinek o squacie
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Ma ktoś jakieś linki?

moonpiedumplings, do games w PEGI gives Balatro an 18+ rating for gambling imagery
Bosht,

Just right up front with the card pack gambling mechanic.

ArchRecord,

Gotta love how they saved the literal slot machine for a minute in to the video so it wouldn’t be too obvious.

umbraroze, do games w PEGI gives Balatro an 18+ rating for gambling imagery

Hngh. Balatro already had a bunch of hassle on Switch eShop due to the PEGI ratings change.

Earlier, Nintendo somehow got a PEGI 12 rating for 51 Worldwide Games, which includes poker and blackjack. I wonder what they argued to avoid the 18 rating. “Sure, this compilation has poker and blackjack, but it’s not like we made it fun.” (It’s adequate but compared to Balatro it’s very much a non-frills experience.)

RixMixed,

I believe 51 Games came out right before the stricter PEGI policy. Same year at least. The whole thing is very silly.

themoonisacheese,
@themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works avatar

“sure our game has gambling elements, but we’re Nintendo so shut the fuck up and give us a better rating because you’re a private company in the business of giving ratings”

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