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  • MacedWindow,
    @MacedWindow@lemmy.world avatar

    Oh I just walked by there! Ill go back and check it out

    BirdEnjoyer, do gaming w I hate the term "Boomer Shooter"

    Lol try being a Roguelike fan.

    You correctly tell people that Pokemon Mystery Dungeon is a Roguelike and they look at you like you've grown a second head.

    Sometimes this stuff happens, and there's basically nothing you can do about it.

    Instigate,

    I feel like a lot of people haven’t ever played Rogue and so struggle understand what Roguelike actually means. Fair call, it’s a very old game with essentially no graphics, but to understand the genre properly everyone needs to give it a go at least once in my opinion.

    Side note; love me the whole Mystery Dungeon franchise. I still need to pick up the Shiren the Wanderer series.

    JohnEdwa,

    Major part of it is that some people differentiate hard between rogue-likes and lites, and others simply do not, and the two will never get along with each other. The thing being that if there are any type of permanent upgrade/unlock systems that makes the game easier the more you play, it is not like rogue, where instead of grinding for more max hp or dodge percentage, you “grind” knowledge and experience as a player.

    Which means that there are very, very few actual roguelikes because upgrade systems are just so cool ™ and every game obviously needs one. Or three.

    TheOakTree,

    Does that make pixel dungeon an actual roguelike? Never played the original rogue.

    Vodulas,

    I believe it is a roguelike, yeah. Probably my favorite one too.

    naevaTheRat,
    @naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    I hate how difficult it is to find games I like when it used to be so trivial.

    2010: “I want to play another game like rogue”

    “Ok try these 10 games which are all excellent, and then there’s these 50 which stretch the definition but rhyme with it if you like”

    2020: “I want to play a game like rogue”

    “Here’s a 3d looter shooter with multiplayer and 9 currencies for upgrades between short runs”

    520, do gaming w I hate the term "Boomer Shooter"

    I call them id-style shooters myself, but there is a bit of word play I like in the term 'boomer shooter'. On top of referencing the age of the audience when they first arrived (albeit incorrectly), it is also a reference to the fact that the optimal strategy for these games is simply to blow things the fuck up. There is very little tactical play beyond what weapons to use for a given situation, and these games really love their explosive barrels and rocket launchers.

    charonn0, do games w Best sidequests in the Fallout games?
    @charonn0@startrek.website avatar

    In New Vegas, completing Arcade Gannon’s companion sidequest gives you a suit of Enclave advanced power armor, and a squad of Enclave troops with a vertibird will back you up at Hoover Dam. It’s virtually impossible to trigger this quest by accident.

    Zahille7,

    I think that’s the one sidequest I’ve never done in New Vegas

    RiikkaTheIcePrincess, do gaming w I hate the term "Boomer Shooter"
    @RiikkaTheIcePrincess@pawb.social avatar

    Maybe it works if read as “games made by boomers?” … Yeah I have no idea how old anyone was/is. Time and I don’t really get along 🤷

    Also, going along with a thing I’ve been seeing in these comments, I’m idly curious as to whether anyone who isn’t a Boomer cares about use/misuse/abuse of the term “Boomer” 🤔

    SimplyTadpole,
    @SimplyTadpole@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    From what I’ve seen, Boomer Shooters were actually often developed by Gen Xers (and played by Millennials), and both of them despise being lumped with the boomers - hence why they dislike the term :p

    RiikkaTheIcePrincess,
    @RiikkaTheIcePrincess@pawb.social avatar

    I guess that makes sense. I’d be upset if critters kept associating me with boomers 😼 I don’t play those so I guess I just haven’t been around the term enough to get a feel for it.

    Shurimal, do gaming w I hate the term "Boomer Shooter"

    Oldskool FPS. There. That's the correct term. Now, who's up for some DM-Morpheus with instagib mutator?🤘

    Tubulous,

    …and volatile ammo. I’m in.

    JoMiran, do gaming w I hate the term "Boomer Shooter"
    @JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

    Gen-X: Whatever.

    continues to slay in Warhammer 40K: Boltgun

    BolexForSoup, do gaming w I hate the term "Boomer Shooter"
    @BolexForSoup@kbin.social avatar

    It is utterly bizarre to me out of all the misnomers and ridiculous (sometimes offensive) terms out there in the media/hobby world, I see “boomer shooter” complained about so much more than any other. This is like the third rant I’ve seen about it in a week.

    I thought Twitter and such were making a mountain out of a mole hill with how people responded to the term “Boomer“ in past years but clearly it ruffles peoples feathers way more than it should. Half the time I go through the comment histories and these are the same people that use ableist slurs regularly. I am not suggesting that OP does, I have not looked at their comments. Just a general observation.

    darkphotonstudio,

    If you were around back in the 90s, you might appreciate why this annoys so many older gamers. Boomers lost their fucking minds over video games. Millennials and Gen-Z weren’t the first generation that had to deal with their bullshit.

    Amphobet, do gaming w I hate the term "Boomer Shooter"
    @Amphobet@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    I never even considered that the name referred to baby boomers I thought it just meant they went “boom”

    ech, do gaming w I hate the term "Boomer Shooter"

    Sorry it bugs you, but it’s far better than the entirely uninteresting/unoriginal “Doom-like”. I get it’s standard practice at this point, but I’m happy whenever we get an actually interesting, poignant name.

    skozzii, do gaming w I hate the term "Boomer Shooter"

    Back in my day, we used to call them shooters…

    But we had to fight uphill, both ways…

    Fubarberry, do gaming w I hate the term "Boomer Shooter"
    @Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz avatar

    I get that the term doesn’t line up age wise with actually Boomers in terms of calendar years, but also video game generations are shorter than social generations. We’re currently on the “ninth-generation” of video games, and Doom came out at the beginning of the third generation of video games. So you could consider Doom-likes to be 6 generations old, and baby-boomers to be 4 generations old. So in terms of “generations”, Boomer shooters should maybe be named after an older generation such as the “Greatest Generation” (6 generations ago). Therefore I propose we call Doom-likes “Greatest Shooters” instead of “Boomer shooters”.

    onlooker,
    @onlooker@lemmy.ml avatar

    Oh, I’m liking this take. Get ready for “Z Shooters” and “Alpha Shooters”.

    masterspace, do gaming w I hate the term "Boomer Shooter"

    When games like Duke Nukem 3D or Quake were out, Boomers were what? 30 to 50 years old? I’m sure some of them played FPS games, but there is no way they were the majority.

    Think about it this way, it’s not that the majority of people playing those games are boomers, but the majority of games that boomers play are those games.

    Also, this has caused me to look up the formal definition of Gen X vs Boomer, and I did not realize that everyone born after 1964 is considered Gen X. In my head Gen X went from ~1975-1990, everyone before that being a boomer, so assuming other people have the same conception of boomer in their head, then the majority of people able to afford gaming PCs in the mid 90s would be boomers…

    They also do just go boom and have stuff like the BFG …

    PatheticGroundThing, do gaming w I hate the term "Boomer Shooter"

    Worth noting that the boomer wojak meme started as “That 30 year old boomer”. It was never about actual Baby Boomers.

    honey_im_meat_grinding,

    This is it, notice how Google Trends[1] shows a rise in “30 year old boomer” not long before “boomer shooter” becomes more commonplace. It’s just the whole applying “boomer” to things like being stuck in their ways or boomer-like behavior, rather than age, that took off a few years back.

    [1] trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&…

    ampersandrew, do gaming w I hate the term "Boomer Shooter"
    @ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

    I think they're called that because they postdate the "looter shooter" that combined Diablo-esque "action RPGs" with FPS games, like Borderlands and Destiny. "Looter" without the "shooter" is a much better name for Diablo's genre anyway, since we have far too many RPGs that are also action games and have nothing in common with Diablo.

    I'm still waiting for the resurgence of the style of shooter that came just after those that inspired this wave of boomer shooter; the likes of Half-Life, Halo, 007, TimeSplitters, and so on. I don't know what subgenre will be assigned to those games when they start to come back around, but that style is also old at this point, so hopefully it doesn't also get assigned the label of "boomer shooter", because then it'll be harder for both audiences to find what they're looking for.

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