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TheTimeKnife, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
@TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world avatar

I switched a year ago and I love it. All my old games run better on linux than windows at this point. Proton is fucking amazing.

DaseinPickle, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I moved back to Linux and it works wonderfully. Except for HDR. That require a bit of tinkering. And there is no good way of getting it to work in any Linux browser, except for some very clunky workarounds. Hopefully that will be fixed.

mrvictory1,
Firipu, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
@Firipu@startrek.website avatar

I run Linux on a small mini pc for some casual browsing.

I run windows on my main pc.

As long as some kernel anticheat (fortnite, cod, etc…) doesn’t run on Linux, I won’t be swapping.

30+y of windows use also makes me infinitely more comfortable with windows. All the complaints I always read about are totally moot for me (I understand the issue of privacy in windows. It’s the price I pay to have an OS that “just works” for me) .

While I enjoy tinkering, Linux is a royal PITA to use if you’re not used to it. I spend hours trying to figure out how to fix something that takes me 5m max in windows. I understand it’s a more a me than a Linux problem. But I’m certain many people struggle with the same things.

loudWaterEnjoyer,
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Maybe the last time you tried Linux was 30 years ago, but Linux compared to Windows just works.

If it takes you HOURS to find a fix to something that takes you literally 5 minutes on Windows, you are doing something wrong. Your research methods are flawed.

Some of my friends still use Windows, fixing their problems takes me half an hour to find a solution, while on Linux, I just open the terminal and insert one command. Last time that happened it was about a VPN kill switch. So the person had a VPN App installed on Windows with a kill switch enabled. Then they uninstalled the VPN application and the kill switch was still there.

How do you remove the kill switch? On Linux it’s ‘nmcli c ‘killSwitchName’ del’ on Windows it’s a journey to a new adventure.

Firipu,
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For how I use my pc, everything just works. To give you a counter argument. My logitech devices just work out of the box on windows. For Linux I had to get a little specific tool. Also try installing Japanese language input on Linux. Compare how much simpler it is on windows. Linux is NOT simpler than windows in all situations. Maybe your own research methods are flawed?

I game, manage my NAS (truenas running jellyfish for media etc) , sail the high seas, and browse on my pc. I also remote into a small spare mini pc running Ubuntu server with a minecraft server on it. (Could’ve ran the server on windows, but wanted to tinker with Linux to learn)

It all works flawless.

Also, give me a Linux alternative for parsec that just works as well for remote gaming, both from other desktop devices as from a mobile devices.

dodos,

I would say sunshine, but from personal experience the encoder never works and your stuck with horrible fps. Parsec is magic.

Firipu,
@Firipu@startrek.website avatar

Yeah, nothing beats parsec tbh.

Frieren,

Maybe use a more friendly distro like Linux mint. It’s very similar to windows, and you don’t need to use the terminal.

Firipu,
@Firipu@startrek.website avatar

I use popOS. Windows is still simpler

MonkderVierte, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

If you use Windows as mere game launcher, you better have a application firewall set to whitelist Steam only anyway.

flemtone, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Steam OS, Batocera, Bazzite, Linux Mint… so many great distros for gaming alone.

CatZoomies, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
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Already upgraded to Linux Mint - lemmy.world/post/24365609

It’s been going great! Everything works as I expected. I now have full confidence that I will never switch back to Windows. It really does feel liberating having an OS that doesn’t track me.

ieatpwns, do games w I really need these games ported to Steam. What do y'all have on your lists?

So yall don’t just play anything on your steam deck? I have viewtiful Joe on my ps2 emulator And the entire gba library on an sd card

Frieren, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Made the upgrade last week to Linux mint and I’m loving it. Got my Arr stacks and stuff setup as dockers and it’s never worked so well. All the connection issues I’ve had on windows is now gone.

The interface is nice and not bloated. And I’m not being tracked which feels liberating.

Mouette,

Welcome :), if we’re being honest lot of the tracking still happens on Linux once you open your web browser but it definitively feel nice to be liberated of the one at OS level and a solid start for caring about online privacy

Frieren,

Yeah, it’s about reducing the amount of tracking though. I’ve since deleted my Google account, stopped using gmail, moved to proton, stopped using online password managers, deleted Reddit, quit watching YouTube, moved everything I can to open source programs. Libre office instead of 365 etc.

sporkler, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I upgraded last year, have lost no functionality

CitricBase,

Me too! I upgraded to Fedora Linux. It’s amazing how everything just works, even all the games I play.

pulsewidth,

Upgraded to Linux or Windows 11?

Because nobody is claiming you’ll lose functionality with Windows 11, so your post seems to imply Linux but I’m unsure.

sporkler,

Linux

regdog, do games w What open-world games on Steam have satisfying movement, like Arkham Knight or Spider-Man?

I would recommend Mad Max on Steam. It is a great open world game with much freedom of movement. Obviously, you will do more driving than walking, but the driving feels very satisfying.

The combat is mostly in Batman-style group brawls, where you have to dodge/block when a prompt appears over an enemy’s head.

Benchamoneh, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I’m going to Linux because I have an older i5 (I think 5th or 7th gen?) which isn’t compatible.

I only really kept Windows for gaming but Valve has put a lot of effort into making Linux gaming more accessible and I’m willing to try it out now

ysk99999,

Good on you. If more people were on linux, it’d give companies more incentive to make games accessible from there.

ulterno, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Upgrade

to Linux

trevor, do games w GOG seems to be considering paid membership option

Anything but properly supporting the Linux community 🤡

How have they still not learned that the largest intersection of the people that care about their core value proposition (game preservation, DRM-free, etc.) are Linux users?? It’s not like they have to create the compatibility layers from scratch; Valve did it for them.

If they provided a launcher for Linux users, I’d actually buy shit from them. Yes, Heroic Launcher exists, but I’m not paying GOG for the work that the Heroic dev did. I want first-party support.

Korhaka,

Why do you want a launcher? I have a few GoG games and I don’t really feel like a launcher is something I need.

What I do want is games to actually update on GoG at the same time as steam, not over a week later. X4 7.0 came out and it was over a week longer for the GoG version to update, in the end I refunded and bought it on steam instead.

stardust,

Cloud saves, achievements, and tracking hours is something I do like. I have over a 100 GOG games, so individually managing exe files isn’t something I really want to do.

Korhaka,

I backup my own saves, don’t really trust someone elses computer to do as good of a job as I can myself. Wrote a script to automate it.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Do you not have to update that script every time you play a new game? Cloud saves are pretty automatic, and regardless of platform, they’ve been pretty reliable too. It also fits that use case that you go to a friend’s place and want to show them something in your save file on a whim.

overload,

Syncthing?

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, that’s what I use when I need it for GOG saves. But typically, every game puts their save file in a different spot, so you do need to do a one-time setup for each individual game.

Korhaka,

Typing backup “Game” “/path/to/files” is pretty simple though. I wouldn’t complain about cloud saves existing, but I won’t rely on them and absolutely wouldn’t pay for them.

tauren,

That’s great, but maybe we should stop talking about you. People pay for Steam, Netflix and many other services because they don’t want to write scripts. They want something convenient and easy to use. They also want additional functionality. You said how you back up save files, but nothing about achievements, time tracking, friends, screenshots sharing, guides, parties, etc.

M137,
@M137@lemmy.world avatar

And you just ignored the rest of the reasons, and to add to those: automatic updates.

rickyrigatoni,

Because there is no linix client some games that use these features do not release their linux version on gog due to their company’s feature parity policies.

metaldream,

You don’t need to manage the exe files. Just install heroic launcher. You can access and install your whole GOG library from there, and you can configure each game with different versions of wine or proton, if you need to. It also integrates with Epic and you can easily add games to Steam as well if needed.

You can even sync the game saves with the GOG cloud, although last time I tried the save sync was a bit clunky.

stardust,

Yeah I’ve used heroic launcher, but a native launcher is still preferred. I like the GOG launcher on windows.

wizardbeard,

I’m fairly sure the update cadence is set by the game dev/publisher, not GoG.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

They might have to grease some wheels somehow then. Some kind of incentive structure to make sure they do it.

Cobrachicken,

… and Steam is more important to them than GOG

trevor,

Because I use a Steam Deck and having a launcher for third-party stores is the easiest way to install games.

Additionally, the reasons mentioned in the other comments.

UnfortunateShort,

What if I told you that the intersection between people who care and the 5% of their potential audience that are Linux users is very small either way?

I’m not saying Linux isn’t a chance for them, but it’s also an investment and very like not a profitable one for quite a while.

alehel,

I’d love a gog galaxy client for Linux with proton support. I also agree though, that it probably wouldn’t help them become more profitable.

Creat,

You do know Heroic exists, right? It works perfectly fine.

And I prefer an open source solution integrating multiple platforms to a single closed solution per platform.

codexarcanum,

What if I told you that there are roughly 4 million steamdecks in existence. Ref

And that this is about 1\3 of the Steam Linux market. Ref and about half of the entire handheld PC market. Ref

Of course, we dont know how many MAU GOG has so maybe 4 million new customers is baby numbers, but Steam seems enamored enough of that market segment to commit huge new UI and store features (deck verification, “Runs on Deck” filters, other deck specific stuff) including the game controller mappings which do help with non-deck also but were clearly a necessary element for handhelds. Maybe deck users, it being a committed gaming platform, spend more on games?

Anyway, trying to get subscribers (always a teeny fraction of your free users) ahead of converting new non-customers into customers, seems like bad econ to me.

If GOG is so hot for game preservation why not see if they can score an emulation deal to bring lost handheld titles to PC\deck? Sega might be down, NeoGeo is owned by the Saudi’s, I’m sure they’d love some free money for their back catalog. That’s in line with Lutris’ mission of being the one game launcher for your entire library. A few strategic investments and partnerships could open up GOG as the gateway to classic gaming across devices, but that would require some vision to carry through.

UnfortunateShort,

1/3 of the Steam + Linux market, that accounted for an incredible 1.45% of Steam installs in February. This means there were roughly 67 Windows gamers for every Linux gamer (using Steam) that month.

So even if Linux gamers are 10 times more likely to care (and pay for) for game preservation, you are not even approaching the number of Windows users that might. Suppose 90% of Linux gamers care, while only 9% on Windows do, you still have roughly 9 Windows users for every Linux one. And this is a very generous assumption to make.

Maybe, eventually, at some point, this makes sense financially. But if your goal is to be profitable, you grab the low hanging fruits first, not invest in maybe 10% more potential users.

Ashtear,

Steam’s investment in UI and store features are part of the onus of hardware platform growth. Steam isn’t just a storefront anymore. GOG has no such interest.

I do think indicators are good for the future of Linux gaming, but it’s just not good business right now to go chasing it.

flamingos,

At this point they should just hire the Heroic devs, I doubt anything they could build themselves would compare in terms of quality.

trevor,

I’d be happy if they did and adopted Heroic as an official launcher. However, if that happens, I’d still want proper controller support to be added so that browsing the GOG store in Heroic doesn’t require mouse and keyboard bindings on something like a Steam Deck.

kuberoot,

It’s not like they have to create the compatibility layers from scratch; Valve did it for them.

I do just want to point out, Valve didn’t do that - Proton is mostly just pre-existing software that they packaged together into an officially supported feature. I love that they did it, and having it in the biggest PC game platform presumably did wonders for Linux gaming, but it was most certainly not made from scratch.

GiuEliNo,
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I agree with you for the most part, but valve also is funding the developers behind the most important things out of proton. DXVK and vkd3d-proton were almost non-existent before Valve employed them.

adm, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

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  • domi,
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    Which one, Bedrock or Java?

    For Bedrock there is an unofficial launcher: flathub.org/apps/io.mrarm.mcpelauncher (Disclaimer: Never tried it)

    For Java there is the offical launcher: flathub.org/apps/com.mojang.Minecraft

    Alternatively, for Java, there are also the much better unofficial launchers like Prism: flathub.org/apps/org.prismlauncher.PrismLauncher

    Dremor,
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    By emulating the Android version, yes. But The java version is better anyway.

    MrScottyTay, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

    My gaming pc has just switched over to bazzite (as I use it like a console/htpc). Been wanting to do it for ages but needed to get an amd card beforehand for the best experience. Windows really started to grind my gears in the last few months too.

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