bin.pol.social

tux7350, do games w Steam Deck / Gaming News #16

This is amazing!! Thank you for the hard work 😁

gcheliotis, do games w 1st time Demon's Souls Player

First souls game I played was demons souls and nothing came close to that since. You never forget your first etc. Maybe bloodborne. I know most people loved the dark souls series but to me it always felt like a rehash of much of the same that was truly novel and captivating in demons souls. Of course happy that many more people got to experience souls games with the move away from the Sony IP. Yet still for me the best souls games are those that were made exclusively for PlayStation, for better or worse.

Blaiz0r,

Completely agree, the atmosphere was something special in Demon’s Souls, the music and mood of the hub area was spot on, nothing has matched that

CCAirWater,

I’ll concede the hub in Demon’s Souls is much better than Elden Ring. No matter what, I turned down the wrong corridor. Either looking for the blacksmith, or the twins, or the two fingers, didn’t matter. Every damn time, I’d go down the wrong way.

Plus, it felt… Empty? Demon’s Souls hub is much larger but still has an aesthetic that feels like everyone is scared, tired, or restless. I like that you can “save” people like Dead Rising and see them back at camp. It feels more immersive. Elden Ring has that too, but not as many NPCs end up there from what I remember. It’s more that they’d always leave the hub, like the lady who hugs. Plus, after the burning of the tree, it’s completely abandoned except the black might guy. Always feel bad that I couldn’t get him out. It’s like the people in the hub all just served as exposition on the lore of the world, not “real” people. I didn’t go back there nearly as much as in Demon’s Souls

CCAirWater,

Bloodborne was my first. It was always… Okay. I still don’t know what the hell was happening. Apparently there’s a night mode you can unlock??? I consider Elden Ring my first true one. I played the hell out of the base game. I’ve only got to complete the final boss twice to unlock all the trophies lol. But I definitely need to pick up the dlc one day soon.

prole,

Gameplay-wise, I think I prefer Bloodborne to DS titles for whatever reason. Setting as well. It’s the only other one besides Sekiro that I’ve beaten so far…

prole,

It wasn’t the first one I tried, but the first one that “clicked” for me was Sekiro, and it’s still in my top 3 favorite games of all time.

After that, the other titles started making sense. But nothing compares to Sekiro.

ampersandrew, do games w I'm a console gamer so, Why the hate on the Epic Games Store?
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

As a customer, why would I ever shop at Epic if the game is also available on Steam and typically has more features? Epic doesn’t solve any problems for me and actively introduces others, like a lack of Linux support. Do I want to play Alan Wake II? Of course I do. Am I going to buy it when they could push an update tomorrow that breaks compatibility with my operating system and offers me no recourse as a customer since it was unsupported in the first place? No, I’m not.

There are things worth solving that Steam does poorly (if they also support Linux customers). Finding out if my multiplayer game will be playable without external servers is a nightmare; DRM sucks, and I want none of it; Steam’s multiplayer/friends network has more downtime than is acceptable; Steam Input should be a platform agnostic library; etc. Instead of solving those problems, they made the store enticing for suppliers (publishers) but not customers. If I’m shopping someplace other than Steam, it’s GOG and not Epic.

CameronDev,

Does steam really have frequent multiplayer downtime issues? I’ve never notice any issues, but I don’t play a lot of multiplayer anymore.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

It’s a lot of cutting out for about a minute, but that’s just enough to interrupt a fighting game match. If it was once per week at a predictable time, that might be okay, but it’s been happening more and more lately when it used to only be on Tuesdays.

CameronDev,

Isn’t steam responsible for match making only, and the actual game company is responsible for the servers? Are you sure its not the game servers?

Either way, that would be very frustrating if its happening mid round.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Typically, when Steam handles the matchmaking, it’s peer to peer. But in general, they also sort of broker the connection between you and the other player or server. Street Fighter 6 runs its own servers and matchmaking, but if Steam cuts out, I lose my connection to them.

adeoxymus,

Generally is extra competition not a good thing for customers?

stoy,

Absolutely, competition is allways good for the consumer, even in this case.

Since EGS offers a worse experience, I will use Steam instead.

ech,

Blackmailing customers onto your service isn’t competition.

Ulrich, (edited )
@Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

Generally, yes. But Epic is not competitive in any way.

Their idea of being competitive is not to deliver an amazing product, it is to buy exclusivity for games so they can’t be sold on other platforms, which benefits no one except themselves.

MudMan,

Gog, then? Itch? I'm not even going to try with Microsoft or the publisher stores because people were so mad at them they effectively killed them.

Turns out nobody is competitive in any way against Steam, which seems to be the whole problem of lacking competition and having a single player dominating a market.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

GOG is competitive for my dollar. DRM-free is a compelling proposition, and they’ve got an excellent refund program. There are a lot of things they could stand to do better, but those two things alone give me an actual reason to shop there over Steam.

Semjaza,

Unless it’s infrastructure or something with a natural monopoly.

The main competition with steam is buying physical copies of things. If we want to support retailers selling physical copies of games and bricks and mortar shops, that’s a good thing.

Alas, I think the games industry is chosing to abandon them. And Steam has the ability to add games purchased outside of Steam to it for convenience. Unlike Epic it puts the user close to the top of priorities.

PieMePlenty, do games w I'm a console gamer so, Why the hate on the Epic Games Store?

It is a good thing to have competition. The hate is because they are doing things people don’t generally like. Exclusivity deals for one thing. Epic can’t really compete with steam because they are too far behind on features, so they resort to exclusivity deals which aren’t really good for any consumer. One could argue it is the fault of publishers taking them, but that is just looking at it from a purely business perspective. As a consumer, I don’t really care about the business side… I don’t profit from it. So I don’t really wonder why gamers are mad at epic for it.

CallateCoyote, do games w I'm a console gamer so, Why the hate on the Epic Games Store?
@CallateCoyote@lemmy.world avatar

I rather gladly take my free games from them.

MentalEdge, do games w I just realized the only way to get new gamers to care about Jak is to release a "remastered" version, which sucks.
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

I don’t entirely agree.

Say what you will about what it did with the characters, but Sly 4 took the level design and art to new heights, and that was thanks to modern advancements in graphics.

Rift Apart does the same for Ratchet and Clank.

kevin2107,

Jak hit differently though. It had a good mix of great platforming and creative use of graphics. If anything without Jak I wouldn’t have played rift apart or sly.

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Ok?

I’m saying is that modern game engines and rendering tech allow a lot of the things that are good about these games to be turned up to eleven, both in terms of gameplay and art.

kevin2107,

Yet games like these dont get made

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Sure they do. Just not often enough.

Pheta,

I will heavily disagree with you on your evaluation of Sly 4. The higher fidelity models doesn't really add much to the characters that you couldn't glean in prior entries in the series, and really only serves to give the characters a more plastic style all while minimizing the features that made them so memorable - their cartoonish aesthetic and stylized design. Not much changed on the design front for any of the major cast, besides more detail regarding their costumes.
I will admit that more details on the smaller bits of their costume would be nice in the older entries, but compromising the style and aesthetic is a much worse tradeoff for what was gained.
There's many other people evaluating the level design in Sly 4 so I won't go into that too much, but suffice to say, Sly 2 has comparable level design, and some are better in my personal opinion, but Sly 3 has the best level design of the franchise. None of those level designs were hindered or empowered by graphical capabilities. The only part that would have a noticeable impact, if anything, would be the post processing effects from some abilities in Sly 4, but I don't really think those added that much to the experience, as most are gimmicks and costume based, meaning they are only used to solve puzzles and don't play any further part in your arsenal except when the game specifically calls for those abilities.

Now I don't disagree that modern computing power could make the series much better, but AAA has this tunnel vision on graphical fidelity, when the indie scene has proved time and again, style always has and always will trump substance.

Ratchet and Clank made the transition successfully because they didn't overblow the graphical fidelity on Clank, it simply looks like a higher quality model of his early iterations, and has been made easier due to the armor and other sci-fi bits of technology in the series, as the genre scales better with the raw fidelity that most AAA developers pursue than other franchises.

Doesn't really help either that the first step that the Sly franchise took into this modern era was spearheaded by a third party studio. I'm not gonna bash Sanzaru that much, as it's clear they had to put in a lot of work to approach Sony and Sucker Punch to even get permission to work on the franchise, and it shows in the humor of their mission design, although they were uncertain of themselves and it shows. So not only was Sanzaru dealing with the difficult position of having the newest entry of a beloved franchise, but also coming up with ways to modernize the gameplay and graphics in a franchise almost iconified in the early 2000's comic and cartoon aesthetic.

It's clear they had more to juggle than could have honestly been expected of them, not the least of which that the franchise had been dead in the water for 8 years at that point, as the industry had slowed to a crawl after the creep of design scope and the upscaling of the industry caused much of the workflow to stagnate or recursion in on itself.

B0NK3RS, do games w I'm a console gamer so, Why the hate on the Epic Games Store?
@B0NK3RS@lemmy.world avatar

People are overly loyal to Steam and don’t realise the huge market share they have. It’s not technically a monopoly but everyone else is fighting over the 20% that Steam doesn’t have so who can blame Epic for throwing money at the problem.

MrScottyTay, do games w Steam Deck / Gaming News #16

As someone from the UK, where most of our spines were standardised like the PS1 and PS2. And having personally collected hundreds of the latter. I’ve always preferred consistent standardised spines. A full bookcase of PAL PS2 games looks so much nicer to me than the messy look of one filled with NTSC games in my opinion.

sxan, do gaming w Amazing Fact of the Day
@sxan@midwest.social avatar

The games on those old computers were better, too, proving you can’t make something good just by throwing power at it. Emulators are popular for a reason.

BeardyGrumps,

Agree with you; there’s some classics from the 8 bit era and its a cool project to build your own way back emulation machine. I did one 8 years ago and I put it into an arcade cabinet. It gets used at parties as everyone can pick up and have a go.

sxan,
@sxan@midwest.social avatar

That’s fantastic. One of the best moments in my life was discovering a comprehensive archive of Apple ][ game images. So. Many. Games. So many, sometimes it’s hard to find a specific one if you remember the game but not the name.

reksas, do games w I'm a console gamer so, Why the hate on the Epic Games Store?

Here are some reasons:

  • exclusivity deals, forcing them to drop from steam even after they first announced release on there. They also target crowdfunded games like phoenixpoint.
  • The launcher is spyware

resetera.com/…/developing-epic-games-launcher-app…

forums.unrealengine.com/t/…/123592

  • and epic is owned by tencent 40%
  • They not really trying to improve their launcher but instead focus on hurting steam and by extension the users.

Its like some shady guy trying to lure kids to a van by offering free candy.

The launcher is security risk for your systemreddit.com/…/epic_games_launcher_had_a_serious_se…

Even if they have fixed that specific issue, why would you believe they have fixed anything else?

first comment on the reddit thread>thlm 5mo ago Epic Games Launcher Incorrect Default Permissions Local Privilege Escalation Vulnerability CVSS SCORE 7.8 This vulnerability allows local attackers to escalate privileges on affected installations of Epic Games Launcher. An attacker must first obtain the ability to execute low-privileged code on the target system in order to exploit this vulnerability. The specific flaw exists within the product installer. The product applies incorrect default permissions to a sensitive folder. An attacker can leverage this vulnerability to escalate privileges and execute arbitrary code in the context of SYSTEM. DISCLOSURE TIMELINE 2024-07-16 - Vulnerability reported to vendor 2024-12-04 - Coordinated public release of advisory 2024-12-06 - Advisory Updated That timeline is disgusting

So in essence, its not bad because it trys to compete with steam. Its bad because they really dont try to compete and just do anti-user things. And people dont care because “yay free games I’m never going to look at again”.

If you want to see what actual competition looks like at the moment, take a look at GOG.

MrScottyTay,

I don’t hate times exclusives that much because that’s done extra cashflow for the dev to be able to either finish their game or polish it further. I still don’t think we’d have gotten Alan Wake 2 at least the version we got without that epic deal. I also don’t know if square would’ve bothered even entertaining the idea of porting all of the kingdoms hearts games either.

Cris16228, (edited ) do games w I'm a console gamer so, Why the hate on the Epic Games Store?

reddit.com/…/rfuckepic_for_dummies_2020_edition/ old but gold

There’s A LOT to talk so you better check there. If you don’t want to check, wait till your account get hacked and try ask support to get it back! You can give all the info you want but 99% of the times they just say “fuck you” and you lost everything

Edit: Can you customize your profile pic there? :)

Granted not everyone cares, I remember them giving away a pfp with Sifu but there’s still no pfp customization. Why? They don’t care about you but about your money

detun3d, do games w Steam Deck / Gaming News #16

Good stuff! 👌

Tieas, do games w Steam Deck / Gaming News #16

Great job as always, I didn’t hear about the stalker remaster yet so I’m definitely going to give it a shot.

Corngood, do gaming w Amazing Fact of the Day

That’s crazy.

Since GPUs got into the TFLOP range I often think of this old magazine cover:

images.computerhistory.org/…/500004286-03-01.jpg?…

BeardyGrumps,

Love that! Thanks for sharing.

taiyang, do games w I'm a console gamer so, Why the hate on the Epic Games Store?

Couple other things to add to this beautiful list others have: meta gaming and chat.

They barely added achievements and only for a couple games, while steam has that, guides, community art, and even a newish notes feature in case you’re playing an OG game that makes you track stuff. Guides have kind of been better than more traditional sources.

Chat is… better on steam, although discord kind of supplanted it. Game based emoji, stickers, etc. It’s actually very good, though, with support for couch coop stream gaming, etc, with voice comms.

One could also point to the generous family sharing function, but I’m not sure what Epic does in that regard. DRM is DRM though. Do keep in mind, though, the philosophy behind Steam is to make DRM palatable by adding features. Epic philosophy (on paper) is to give devs a higher cut, although I’ve heard devs feel more supported by steam-- especially since they aren’t afraid to throw obscure indie games into a users discovery queue.

  • Wszystkie
  • Subskrybowane
  • Moderowane
  • Ulubione
  • rowery
  • fediversum
  • FromSilesiaToPolesia
  • healthcare
  • test1
  • krakow
  • Gaming
  • Cyfryzacja
  • muzyka
  • Blogi
  • NomadOffgrid
  • esport
  • Technologia
  • ERP
  • shophiajons
  • informasi
  • retro
  • Travel
  • Spoleczenstwo
  • gurgaonproperty
  • Psychologia
  • slask
  • nauka
  • sport
  • niusy
  • antywykop
  • Radiant
  • warnersteve
  • Wszystkie magazyny