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comicallycluttered, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of October 29th

Okay, so started Jusant.

In a weird way, it reminds me of the 2008 Prince of Persia game. Mainly because there was also a lot of climbing and platforming there, and also because of something I guess is story-related so won’t get into.

Anyway, doubt I can keep it up for much more. If they had a toggle option for the triggers, maybe, but it’s hell on my already strained wrists.

Otherwise, it seems like a nice little game. Probably just not for me.

noodlejetski, do m0biTech w Shadow Drive czyli europejska chmura (od Francuzów z OVH) z bezpłatnymi 20GB na dane. Nextcloud bez aplikacji, tylko dysk.
@noodlejetski@masto.ai avatar

@m0bi13 hmmm, ich strona z ficzerami twierdzi że mają "In-transit and client-side end-to-end encryption" https://shadow.tech/en-GB/drive/offers

m0bi13,
m0bi13 avatar

Czyli ssl, https ;)

E2EE w Nextcloud to co innego. Twoja apka kliencka (może być ich kilka) jest jedynym posiadaczem kluczy. Dla serwera te pliki są niezdatne do niczego, są zaszyfrowane. Nikt ich nie może podglądać, tylko Ty posiadający klucze. Dlatego też tracisz do nich dostęp przez web apkę. Widzisz, że jest folder z włączonym E2EE i tyle. Taki sejf.

noodlejetski,
@noodlejetski@masto.ai avatar

@m0bi13 a czy właśnie to nie jest "client-side"?

m0bi13,
m0bi13 avatar

Ale co? Https? No przecież wymaga współpracy klienta z serwerem, więc można napisać tak jak oni: end to end. Tyle że transmisja nie odbywa się z punktu A do B przez serwer, a z punktu A jedynie do serwera.
Serwer zna klucze. W "normalnym" e2ee ma nie znać.

noodlejetski,
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@m0bi13 nie, chodziło mi o to, co opisałeś jako "E2EE w Nextcloud". jestem pod tym względem kompletnym laikiem, ale gdy czytam "client-side", to nasuwa mi się na myśl właśnie coś takiego.

SCmSTR, do games w What are some alternative to soulless videogame franchises?

I've been thinking a lot about this for the past few years, and have noticed a trend in what games I've found to be actually good.

I noticed three very specific commonalities, and all of them have at least two:

  • Foreign (Non-American)
  • Indie
  • Small studio

Basically all of the good games that I've liked in the past ten years have been at least two of these, and I'm sure if you think about it, the great games you've played have also been this way.

Stop buying big US studio games, their shareholders all require them to maximize their income with really anti-comsumer and predatory designs and practices. You won't have fun, and it'll be expensive.

Go play EDF5 with some friends. It's jank but super fun. 6 is being translated and ported to PC soon.

Raft is great, too.

Talos Principle was fantastic, if not a little melancholy.

And weirdly, Minecraft Java is still good fun. Go check out some of the mod packs like All Of Fabric 6. Host a local server, port forward, play with friends. Literally world-class, free content made by grassroots, passionate developers who do it because they love it.

Valheim was great years ago, and while their development cycle is slow, it's been solid.

But seriously. When somebody refers or suggests a game to you, the first thing you should look at are how they make money, because that is ABSOLUTELY where the industry is at, and has been for a decade now. We used to have centralized talking heads like Total Biscuit who would bring up topics and discussions trying to keep these studios and publishers in their place, but he got taken out too early and now the community is ultra fragmented with no central integrous authority to reference and publishers and studios are out of control with nobody to answer to except investors.

It's like the loss of a union, except it's industry wide.

There are gems out there, but you gotta get past the advertising and learn to smell the bullshit business practices. They don't have to be standard, but remember that gaming has only turned into gambling and Gaming-as-a-Service (GaaS) because credit cards got involved post-purchase as a source of revenue.

Sure, good things come from it, but the trade-offs are entirely insidious and clearly motivating for standardized enshittification. We adults made our own graves by accepting and spending. Sure, even if the money isn't that big of a deal and the content you get might be good, you're voting with your wallet and training a soulless system.

It's ABSOLUTELY a mirror world, just like the media - if you consume, there will be more. Stop buying shit games like Diablo 4. Blizzard can take the hit unfortunately, and if those business practices stopped making as much return as they did, they wouldn't be supportable.

Sure, initial prices would go up, but at least the games wouldn't be ruined with money shops, proprietary currencies, battle passes, and all the other ultra predatory shit that makes them money that ruin gaming.

Reward creators and studios that stick their necks out to make something purely fun, despite their CFO compromising and forcing their developers to implement these practices because otherwise they'd: "be leaving money on the table, and we are a business, after all."

But remember:

  • Foreign
  • Indie
  • Small Studio

These are demographics that are typically more resistant and empowered to make FUN games.

CADmonkey,

I have wasted a significant part of my life on two amazing games from (I’m pretty sure) indie developers: Factorio (Wube) and Satisfactory.(Coffee Stain) Both of these games have a lot of depth, and both are stable which is interesting becuase Satisfactory is still Early Access.

alsimoneau,

Just here to plug Captain of Industry if you like factory games.

CADmonkey,

I’ve played Captain of Industry, about 50 hours in it, and it just doesn’t grab me like Factorio or Satisfactory.

devbo,

so aren’t all indies small? and the non-american thing is just taste.

Why cant you just say you only like either:

  • non american games.
  • small studios.
SCmSTR,

Valve is an independent company.

devbo,

cool.

SweatyFireBalls,

Larian (baldurs gate 3) is massive for being indie. I think where your misconception comes from is the term indie. The term comes with a lot of predetermined expectations and definitions, but in spite of this fact very large studios can be indie.

Of course it feels weird to label a studio as large as larian indie when compared to the likes of supergiant(hades) or two brothers of bay 12 who created dwarf fortress. None of the three are technically any less indie, but one certainly feels more indie, doesn’t it?

devbo,

oh, i guess most of the times of heard indie, it was refering to small studios, where as i have never heard anyone call a large studio indie even if they are. thanks for the correction.

m0bi13, do m0biTech w Shadow Drive czyli europejska chmura (od Francuzów z OVH) z bezpłatnymi 20GB na dane. Nextcloud bez aplikacji, tylko dysk.
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Sprawdzone udostępnianie folderu w chmurze federacyjnej z na .

Działa, po zaakceptowaniu udostępnienia na NCHpl. Dodatkowe 20GB ;)

Ekran udostępniania folderu

to3k,
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@m0bi13 @m0bi13 cebulka 😉

m0bi13,
@m0bi13@pol.social avatar

@to3k Jeśli korzystanie z bezpłatnych usług jak NCHpl, Mastodon czy Shadow drive albo Oracle free-tier to "cebulka", to tak ;)

@m0bi13

to3k,
@to3k@tomaszdunia.pl avatar

@m0bi13 @m0bi13 to jest najpyszniejsza cebulka 😁

Cybersteel, do games w Would you prefer if games had a separate difficulty setting for boss fights?
@Cybersteel@lemmy.ml avatar

Fuck before even that, they should fix and put and easy mode on all games. Why can’t the lazy devs even to fkin that for accessibility.

RGB3x3,

I really hate FromSoft for the utter lack of a difficulty slider in all of the Souls games.

I don’t have the time to grind their games to “git gud” like they want. Just let me enjoy the game instead of wanting to pull my hair out as I play.

I’ve essentially wasted $120 on Dark Souls 3 and Elden Ring because I hear nothing but utter praise for them. Then I realized I didn’t have the time or patience to grind out those boss fights, so I get <10 hours of play time out of them before I have to stop.

winkerjadams,

If you’re on PC you could try looking for some mods to help alleviate the things you don’t like. But yes, it would be nice to have more options right out of the box.

Iapar,

Saying dark souls/elden ring is not easy enought is like saying schindlers list isnt funny enought. You are missing the point of the whole thing.

Besides. There are always ways to make something easier in from games. A spell, a item, some armor. And that is by design.

Best example is the taurus deamon in dsk1. You find an item before the boss room. Use the item and the thing is done in two seconds. Of course it is also posdible to brute force it with dodge skills.

I think the one thing people dont get about from games ist that they are as much detective games as they are action rpgs.

Crozekiel,

I feel like you’ve missed the point of the post. Not everyone likes that style of game or has time to put in being savaged by an overly difficult game. If the devs don’t want those people playing, that’s fine, but those people are still allowed to hate the games over it.

“no, you’re supposed to hate playing it. That’s what makes it fun” some people like to get choked, but if your try that shit on someone that hates it, expect a bad time…

GoodEye8,

Some people like getting choked, but if you don’t then maybe you shouldn’t do things where you might get choked. Maybe don’t go into Brazilian Jiu-jitsu and be like “bro, WTF you choked me out” when you get choked. Nobody is forcing you to play Fromsoft games. You want to play them and you know they’re hard. You’re putting yourself in that metaphorical chokehold and then complain when you get choked.

If that sounded stupid, then that’s because it is. Don’t be a child and expect the world to cater to your needs. Not everything is for you and if you don’t enjoy it then maybe you shouldn’t play. I don’t like Battle royales so I don’t play them. I don’t start up Warzone and then complain how I don’t enjoy it, because I understand when I’m not the demographic and I don’t expect the game to cater to my needs.

Crozekiel,

The problem is that, using this analogy, when someone who hates getting choked says they don’t want to try Brazilian Jiu-jitsu, a bunch of bjj fans come around telling them how awesome it is… And when the person says “that’s cool, but I just don’t like getting choked” they get told that’s the point of bjj, it’s awesome to get choked out…

Again, it’s fine if the devs want to make the game not have those options, but they also have to understand there are people that will not buy them or play them because of it. Fans of those games also need to understand that there will be people that hate those games only because of that reason. No amount of telling them “but that’s what makes it great though” is going to change their opinion.

Everytime someone says “I stay away from souls-like games because I just don’t like to play a game that is so difficult”, there will be someone replying either telling them off or trying to convince them they are wrong. We literally aren’t buying the game then complaining about it, we are explaining why we won’t buy those games.

GoodEye8,

You do realize that your “problem” is entirely irrelevant in the context of this thread? The comment first mentioning Souls games literally says they’ve bought the game and they want it to be easier. That is not an explanation why they wouldn’t buy the game, it’s a complaint that the game they’ve bought doesn’t cater to their needs. The problem you’ve described doesn’t exist here so there’s no problem with the analogy either.

whostosay,

The comment is the shittiest bad faith reply I’ve seen in a minute. Your caricaturized version of what the previous person said is not a good way to drive your point home.

Not all games are made for everyone. I’m not out here buying games that are relaxing/requiring little thought and complaining that they don’t require enough planning/patience/skill, I just play those games when I want something relaxing.

No one here is saying that you’re not allowed to like a game, what you can’t do is buy a game like this, that is notoriously advertised in this way (one of them has a godamn global death counter in it,)then complain that it is exactly what you knew it would be and expect people to sympathise.

Crozekiel,

You’re strawman is worse than my “faith”.

whostosay,

Disagree.

Gamerman153,

If you are on PC you can download cheat engine and a table for the game. This will allow you to turn on invincibility if you just wish to explore at your leisure.

latesleeper,

You could just do more research before buying a game at full price and being mad that the game isn’t for you. If you want a story those games aren’t for you. There’s more story in YouTube videos about the game than what’s actually upfront in the game. I understand being upset at a bad purchase but adding a difficulty slider is counter to the developers intent and thus not made for you.

Disgustoid, do games w What did you think of Sea of Stars?

Anyone who says Sea of Stars is in the same echelon as “classic” JRPGs clearly didn’t play all the way through SoS or has not played many classic JRPGs. SoS was an okay game for what it was but I honestly don’t remember much about it a couple of months after finishing it, whereas games like Lunar and Persona will always be cherished gaming memories for me.

GrayBackgroundMusic, do gaming w Star Ocean: The Second Story R - Review Thread

The pixelated characters against the high-fidelity 3d background is messing with my head.

Ashtear,

Heh, yeah, that’s one of the popular styles right now. I’d rather see more detailed sprites.

FrostKing, do games w New icon and banner for c/Games wanted!

Might make a pixel art style icon—will report back if it looks any good!

FrostKing,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/2877b8cc-e032-423a-819a-50b7e3eb685e.png

Really quick try, and I am a very early beginner, but figured it couldn’t hurt. Might try out some other ideas as well

variants, do games w What do you think of Eastward?

man Ive been meaning to get back into this game, I just got it on the switch to see if I would have more time to play it there

YarHarSuperstar, do games w What are some alternative to soulless videogame franchises?
@YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world avatar

Last day on earth (mobile top down survival action game with building and gathering) alternatives without the intrusive ads and waiting forever for upgrading and traveling? Preferably on PC.

Rednax, do games w What are some alternative to soulless videogame franchises?

If you want to play animal crossing, but only have a PC: try Dinkum. Same gameplay loop, but with a few minor twists and turns. And the setting is Australia. Hence you ride your mu around town, shearing the wool of your pleeps and milking your vombats. Ofcourse you need to defend them from crocos and fire spitting bush devils. But anything you kill can be thrown on the BBQ. And to get rich, you start a fairy bread empire. Exporting millions worth of sugary goodness.

AngryCommieKender,

Didn’t the emus already start a war cause of fuckin bogans trying to ride them?

/j

Aielman15, do games w What did you think of Sea of Stars?
@Aielman15@lemmy.world avatar

The gameplay is fantastic and offers a lot of variety (especially as you grow your team and unlock more skills and combo attacks), and the art style and art direction, locations, and the soundtrack are beautiful. I had a lot of fun exploring, looking for treasure, talking to everyone, finding tons of secrets and side quests. The story is very much cliché and mostly an afterthought, but it’s fine (not bad, not good, just fine) and the cast is cute.

Unfortunately, 2/3 into the game, the developers either depleted their budget, or they stopped giving a shit. The story feels super rushed in the last act, and the ending is downright insulting. Half the cast enters a portal at the end of the second act, and you never see or hear from them again. One of the main party members goes like “Oh my, this thing I just discovered changes everything, I need to study this more” but you never see them again until the very end, and they don’t do anything, nor do they say why the thing they found was important or what did they study. A lot of things that were foreshadowed or hinted at, like the legendary sea slug or the Queen that was, are just random optional bosses scattered in the game’s world with no purpose or backstory whatsoever. Most don’t even have a dungeon attached to them. The true ending is a slap in the face.

I loved the game, but the last act and the ending really soured my experience with it.

sosodev,

That’s a good point about Resh’an. I kept expecting him to come back and be like “Sorry I left. This is still our best hope.”

Why do you say the true ending is a slap in the face?

Aielman15, (edited )
@Aielman15@lemmy.world avatar

I’d have to spoiler tag the entire message to be able to reply to that.

spoilerFor a multitude of reasons. First of all, the true ending is achieved by collecting random Shells around the world. Sure, you have a magical parrot telling you where the missing chests are, but in my case it would tell me that a chest was missing in the Flooded Graveyard, and I’d spend four hours straight going up and down the same map over, and over and over again, until I finally gave up and looked for an internet guide to tell me where the missing chest was. I’m a completionist, but I don’t care about achievements: I like exploring maps and collecting stuff and finding secrets, but I hate random, pointless collectibles and I never care about them in the games I play. Having them tied to the true ending was a huge mistake IMO and ruined my experience. Secondly, as I said in another comment of mine: I despise time travel. Always. It just doesn’t work, unless you put a lot of thought into it, and the Sea of Stars developers clearly didn’t even try. Garl’s chapter was probably the most emotional moment of the game, but the true ending comes and says “Yeah, no, he’s alive and well, and actually it never happened. B’st did those things, not Garl”, which doesn’t make any sense as B’st did not know Garl and would not be able to imitate him, nor do the same things he did. The purpose of reviving Garl was for him to throw an apple at the bad guy to taunt him and have him choose to fight in place of his minion? Seriously, you go through the hassle of collecting all conches, and that’s the only thing that differs from the normal ending. The rest plays out exactly the same. You defeat the Fleshmancer, and… Resha’an shows up, takes his bf into a portal with him, doesn’t say a word to the party, and goes away. And everyone’s happy. To say that I was underwhelmed is an euphemism. I was expecting some new revelations, some closure, but all I got is a slightly different turn of events with a different boss fight and an equally disappointing ending. Meanwhile, dozens of questions remain unanswered. What was Resha’an researching? What the heck was the “night” inside of Zale, and why had he to confront it? Valere is able to fly just as well as he does, and has no night inside her at all. Why was Serai hiding her true identity from her crew? What happened to Brugaves, the Acolytes and the Dweller? (Yes, I know that they end up being boss fights in the Messenger, but I should NOT be required to play an entirely different game to have some closure to this storyline. That would be like Capcom asking their players to play Monster Hunter to know what happens to Ada in Resident Evil)

quacker, do games w What did you think of Sea of Stars?

I liked the plot and story. There are plenty of unique/memorable moments. It gets off to a lethargic start, unfortunately, though. The first like five hours at least are quite dull, and I don’t blame anyone for dropping the game based on that. But it improves massively after the intro, and the story is what kept me going.

The writing and storytelling are not good. There’s way too much dialogue and it’s constantly changing tone. One second there’s a meta 4th-wall-breaking joke and the next second it’s serious or sad. It takes me out of the world and many moments lose impact because of this.

The characters are mixed. The two protagonists have zero personality, which is partly a symptom of them being entirely interchangeable. But most other characters have great backstory and some are quite interesting

The combat and gameplay did its job, but lacked depth. The weapons and armor were just simple stat changes, and the stats are pretty standard (hp, mp, phys atk/def, mag atk/def), so character progression was uninteresting. The magic/type locks in battle were sort of more tedious than fun, but I appreciate that it requires some thought and is something unique.

I like the world design and the verticality that gives some interest to running around the world. There are unlockable shortcuts so that you don’t have to repeat long sections again, and there are plenty of rewards to make exploration somewhat worthwhile.

The artwork is amazing. There’s a ton of unique detailed pixel art. Admittedly, I do think some animations are a little rough or are simplistic - like a static sprite bouncing up and down - but this is pretty minor.

I’m mixed on the music. It’s technically great, but I don’t really want to listen to the soundtrack again, honestly. One thing that’s impressive is the music changes seamlessly during night/day cycles so actually every song has like two renditions (or something) which is kind of crazy.

The ending is rushed, though I only really felt it’s the last area (the tower) that’s rushed. You get to the top and the final boss is one fight with space shooter mechanics (???) incorporated, and then the game ends right after. It’s too quick. That actually did motivate me to unlock the true ending, because I felt like there must be more. And unlocking the true ending didn’t take me all that long, but it does suck that it’s a collectathon.

Overall, I enjoyed it a lot, but wouldn’t play through it again. It’s like a 7/10 for me.

sub_, do gaming w Star Ocean: The Second Story R - Review Thread

This game looks good, and I’ve never played the old 2D Star Ocean games (the 3D ones I’ve played, Divine Force and Lymle Double Trouble, disappointed me)

I guess I need to start with First Departure which I bought at a sale recently.

EvaUnit02,
@EvaUnit02@kbin.social avatar

You don't really need to start with First Departure.

chatokun,

This one got me into Star Ocean (2) back on ps1, and I think it’s been my favorite/most impactful. Might just be because of it being the first one.

bungle_in_the_jungle, do games w What do you think of Eastward?

I enjoyed it for a good while and found it really charming. I just ended up kind of losing interest for some reason. No idea how far along I was, but I had to be at least half way through.

The soundtrack was a standout to me, I’ll say that!

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