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degrix, do gaming w I don't want to "Press any key to continue" to the main menu
@degrix@lemmy.hqueue.dev avatar

Lately, I’ve seen it for controller detection on PC games. Larian games like Baldur’s Gate 3 at least use it to change how they render the “Main” menu. I mean, the “Main” menu also changes if I plug in a controller so maybe it’s just an aesthetic thing held over from older video games.

Phen,

Sometimes windows itself will only let games know there’s a controller plugged in after a button is pressed, but connecting a controller with the game already open can usually be detected just fine.

scribblemacher, do gaming w I tried playing the two original Baldur's Gate games on Ubuntu. It's hell.

Are you trying the original or Enhanced Edition? I’ve had no issues playing the EE versions of Infinity Engine games on Ubuntu

peter, do gaming w Battle.net account
@peter@feddit.uk avatar

Are you not able to replace the battery in them?

Tutunkommon,

I tried but either age or removing the battery caused it to desynchronize. I got it right before Wrath of the Lich King, so it had a good run.

FlashMobOfOne, do gaming w I don't want to "Press any key to continue" to the main menu
!deleted7243 avatar

There are usually ways around this in the config files. That’s how I’ve always fixed it.

Rocketpoweredgorilla, do gaming w I don't want to "Press any key to continue" to the main menu
@Rocketpoweredgorilla@kbin.social avatar

It annoys me when you close down a game, and it only has the option to send you to the title menu instead of closing out. It's not the worst thing ever, but it's kind of annoying when you need to go, and you have to "quit" the game just to wait for it to go back to the title screen and make you hit "quit" again a second time.

delitomatoes,

It’s for console ports. They have a power button…so on PC you’ll need to go to that button created specifically to quit to desktop

XTL,

Or, they have a hypervisor, so instead of needing to quit from inside, you just hit the magic button and go back to the console UI. Game is suspended and might resume after power off or switch, or not, depending on the system and user.

You could just ctrl-alt-del or window switch or whatever to get the same experience on a computer.

phoenixes,

I honestly will just slap cmd-q on most games. If they don’t handle it properly… well, sucks for me I guess, but most do. (on a mac)

I wonder how most games treat alt-f4 on windows?

N1cknamed,
@N1cknamed@feddit.nl avatar

It differs, on some games it doesn’t work or still takes a long time. For those programs I like to use SuperF4, which kills the process when you press ctrl+alt+f4.

erwan,

They need to be less lazy on the ports and add the option to quit to desktop on the PC version even if it doesn’t exist on the console version.

Some games do, however I hate when I have to go to the menu before being able to quit to Desktop.

Rocketpoweredgorilla,
@Rocketpoweredgorilla@kbin.social avatar

Clicks quit
Are you sure you want to exit?
Clicks yes
Goes to title
Clicks Quit
Are you absolutely positive you want to exit?
*Clicks yes DO YOU ACTUALLY THINK I CLICKED THREE TIMES TO GET HERE BY ACCIDENT??
Game hangs.

chaorace,
@chaorace@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

This is a long-shot question, feel free to disregard… but I have to ask: is that you, Joost?

Rocketpoweredgorilla,
@Rocketpoweredgorilla@kbin.social avatar

Joost? Nope sorry... I assume that's a username or something?

chaorace,
@chaorace@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Ah, nevermind sorry about the trouble. He’s a cofounder of the company whose logo you’re using as an avatar (“Ronimo”, i.e.: “Robot Ninja Monkey”).

Rocketpoweredgorilla,
@Rocketpoweredgorilla@kbin.social avatar

Ah ok lol... I got this png off one of those free image sites because I was too lazy to make my own and been putting it off so far.

NotSteve_,

FromSoft games are the worst for that. They log you off the servers and then make you login again to get to the title screen to quit

LinyosT,

Just alt-F4 once you quit the game and hit the title screen or you’re sure the game has successfully saved.

Stillhart, do gaming w I don't want to "Press any key to continue" to the main menu

It’s been bugging me in BG3. Mostly because it takes a while to load and when it’s finally loaded, I have to press a button then WAIT AGAIN for a stupid animation before getting to the main menu so I can then load some more.

Gimme a command line to just automatically “Continue” please. The pretty animtions and menu were fun at first. Now I just want to get back to my brain parasites as quickly as possible. I’m sure that has nothing to do with my brain parasites.

Scrath,

There’s a mod on nexusmods to skip the startup intros. That might help in speeding things up a little

Stillhart,

Will those work in linux?

Scrath,

I have no clue. Guess that’s something you would have to try, though I don’t see a reason why it wouldn’t work.

ghostofjohnnycache, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of August 6th

I dug up my old 3DS in the past weeks, installed some custom firmware to play my backups of DS/3DS/GBA games. A bit of Zelda Minish Cap, some Metroid Fusion… But mostly I find myself playing various Pokemon ROM hacks lol.

I’ve been getting into “Pokemon Elite Redux”, which is a difficulty/challenge game centered around each Pokemon having up to 4 abilities at the same time in battle. And there’s tons of new abilities that make each pokemon uniquely useful. It’s certainly challenging, even on the lowest difficulty. It’s happened to me several times that I have to get together a whole new team to beat a single trainer. But, there’s zero grinding involved, and there’s SO many quality-of-life changes that it’s super easy to get a whole new team squared up in just a few minutes. That makes it really easy to jump in for a few minutes when I can, without feeling like I’m wasting my time

zero_spelled_with_an_ecks, do gaming w I don't want to "Press any key to continue" to the main menu

The best thing a game has ever done with this is ask on first startup if it should go to the main menu or just load your last save on every startup after this one.

Coskii, do gaming w I don't want to "Press any key to continue" to the main menu
@Coskii@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I have a similar issue with Diablo 4 at the moment. I’ve been playing on controller on pc. It’s two button presses to skip the intro logos, and a third press will exit the game before even getting to the main menu. The number of times I’ve accidentally closed the game is much too high.

Zak8022,

OMG yes!!! D4 has been driving me crazy with this! Especially if I’m playing on Steam Deck, where load times are longer and I have to sit through it all again.

Coskii,
@Coskii@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

It has a host of other issues besides basic ui problems, my largest pet peeve at the moment is town layouts being completely different. Picking a random nightmare dungeon to run and then porting to town is immediately followed by me opening the map to see which cardinal direction the blacksmith/shop is in.

HellAwaits, do gaming w I don't want to "Press any key to continue" to the main menu

Such not a big deal IMO

Banzai51, do gaming w I don't want to "Press any key to continue" to the main menu
@Banzai51@midwest.social avatar

Cyberpunk 2077 is terrible for this. Have to push the spacebar three times to get to the menu to start/continue a game.

Francois,

There’s a mod for that, if your platform supports mods. It’s the only one I’m running.

RandoCalrandian, do gaming w Rant: Frustration Related to Ethics of Games Companies
@RandoCalrandian@kbin.social avatar

Have you tried growing up?

No, seriously.

You support more unethical bullshit buying avocados and meat than you do video games. To even give the issues you’ve mentioned as much attention as you have, while ignoring the much less ethical things you purchase far more often, shows how disingenuous and shallow your objection to those products really is, and it leads to more problems than it solves.

For example, Balders Gate 3 is a pretty fantastic game, with no micro transactions or as far as I can see any other form of end user manipulation.

They’re also one of the few studios I’ve seen recently that the devs dont seem burnt out on, which says a lot about how they were managed.

And they just license the content from wizards, to go “oh they’re tangentially related so it’s evil!” (Which you also did with hogwarts legacy) denies all the hundreds and thousands of passionate developers of a chance.

Indie games are a great alternative, true, but as others have said indies can be as toxic as the big companies when they want to be. Not to mention the long term consequences of that direction being developers can’t work together to make AAA games anymore, because according to your rules if a shithead makes it to the top everyone else’s work should be thrown away.

potterman28wxcv,

while ignoring the much less ethical things you purchase far more often

OP did not indicate anywhere what kind of food they buy. You are judging them without knowing their habits.

RandoCalrandian,
@RandoCalrandian@kbin.social avatar

You’re right I am, but I do stand by it.

Mine is simply a more specific example of the “there is no ethical consumption under capitalism” argument that has been repeated here many times.

It was a reasonable to assume OP frequently purchases food

ram,
@ram@lemmy.ca avatar

Mine is simply a more specific example of the “there is no ethical consumption under capitalism” argument that has been repeated here many times.

You mean the argument saying we cannot fix the system without abolishing the system? You’re using it to instead justify the inequities of the system and henceforth ignoring them because you completely missed the point of the phrase?

potterman28wxcv,

It was a reasonable to assume OP frequently purchases food

You specifically mentioned avocados and meat. I know some people who only buy local food and do not buy meat. Your reasoning would not apply to them.

Atheran,

You know what an example is? Regardless of whether I agree with him or not, those were examples. They good list a whole bunch of other foods or shampoos or drinks or whatever the hell you can imagine. The poster was trying to make a point. Fixating on the examples and giving personal examples of people you specifically don’t do the two things the poster mentioned doesn’t make the argument lose its merit.

My personal opinion on the subject is very different than the poster’s, which can be summarized to that I don’t oppose art because I don’t like the artist, I won’t stop reading Lovecraft or listening to Vivaldi because they were trash people, because their art is great. So I don’t in fact agree with what the poster said, but clinging to personal examples to refute an argument while ignoring the global average which is what the argument was using is disingenuous.

With the same logic, since the people you know don’t eat meat, that’d mean there’s no problem with the meat eating in the world, which I’m sure you’d rush to point out the absurdity of logic there.

potterman28wxcv,

My personal opinion on the subject is very different than the poster’s, which can be summarized to that I don’t oppose art because I don’t like the artist, I won’t stop reading Lovecraft or listening to Vivaldi because they were trash people, because their art is great. So I don’t in fact agree with what the poster said

OP did not say they did not want to play the games. They said they could not play their games because that would be giving money to the studios; that which is a form of support. The relevant sentence is here:

I can’t play them because it’d be giving those companies/people money

I am fairly sure that OP would love to play the games they cite. And that they love the art. But that is not the point. The point is whether or not they are willing to support the bad practices from the studio. Because if they did buy the game, indirectly it would be supporting those bad practices.

Your initial point (the “global average” of it) was that there are more serious things to care in the world - you were assuming that OP had to be doing something else such as buying non-local food which is bad for the planet, and you were more or less saying that it is stupid for them to care about what happens in the game industry when they most probably do not care about the food they eat.

My point was that you were doing moral assumptions about OP - I pointed your specific avocado example, but even more generally than that, you were assuming that OP had to be doing something wrong somewhere in the context of ecology.

Well, now, my last and final point is that OP may be someone who is careful about what they buy generally speaking (not just avocados), whether it be shampoo or whatever. Again, I do know people who are very careful about what they buy. They will try their best to never buy something new for instance ; buying from second-hand places for example. And they will try their best to almost never waste something. If OP were to be someone like that, then your whole point would not apply to them. Hence my initial point.

I did not get your meta-logical reasoning on your last paragraph. But I will leave it at that because I am not sure continuing this discussion is fruitful.

Atheran,

You’re right it’s not, since neither did I comment on the original poster’s message, but the one’s you were responding to, nor did I assume anything about the original poster. And I’m certain I was not the person you originally replied to either.

Maybe pay more attention next time? If you’re interested in my answer to the OP, I have that below in another comment that answers to the OP, not you answering to someone else that commented on the OP.

potterman28wxcv,

Apologies - I am not good with names and the “Show context” feature only shows one message. I did not even realize I was talking to a different person. Thanks for clarifying

sounddrill,

You know why I hated on hogwarts legacy?

I hated on it because it had denuvo and was performing like ass unless you had high end hardware at the time

RandoCalrandian,
@RandoCalrandian@kbin.social avatar

And those are far better reasons than being upset about what a fanfic author wrote on Twitter one time

ram,
@ram@lemmy.ca avatar

Ah, disregard my last comment. You’re clearly in bad faith, there’s no discussion to be had with you.

RandoCalrandian,
@RandoCalrandian@kbin.social avatar

See?

Signal virtue before all else, reason included

sounddrill,

Clown on clown violence

Jk, but I’m enjoying this fight

sanpo,

So, what, unless OP somehow changes their habits to buy literally zero of anything produced by unethical companies it’s not even worth trying?

Not sure they’re the ones that need to grow up and be less edgy…

PlushySD,

I do agree with this.

emeraldheart,

I appreciate your thought-out response. I’m going to respond as best I can to your points.

I struggle with moral/ethical conundrums in all areas of my life. The current discussion is games, but I really do consider the harm I might be causing any time I buy things. There are some harms that I cannot avoid, such as the purchase of gasoline (my current income is low and I cannot afford a greenee car). Others, such as food purchases, are limited in what I can do… But I try anyway. I have an app for telling me about ethical sourcing by company/product which I use at the store. Clothing, sadly, tends to be unethical no matter what, unless I make my own clothes - I sadly don’t have the time or money to do so.

With video games, which are themselves a luxury, I have so many choices of what to play that I feel I have much more ability to decide what not to play, based on how I feel about where my money is going.

I should also acknowledge that I don’t think any of these games/developers will suffer as a result of me not purchasing them. Developers/programmers also do not make income based on sales, and layoffs happen after the release of many major AAA games, simply because they don’t need that large team anymore (I don’t agree with this practice at all, and I think it’s horrible to do to people who already don’t make enough for their work, but it’s relatively industry standard). The gaming community is also waaaay too large for any kind of boycott to be effective. I’m just trying to be mindful about my purchases based on my own feeling.

I think you raise a fair point about indie games. I think it’s a good reminder to me to look into those as well. As long as there’s no major publicized controversy surrounding an indie company, however, there’s no information I can use to steer me away from it. But, I appreciate your reminder not to blindly purchase indie games just because the company is “indie.”

Overall, I appreciate you taking the time to respond to me. I will be considering your points as I move forward.

Atheran,

As far as I know, Larian is not such a company like you mention. Everything they’ve done or said so far, to my knowledge, both referring to BG3 and their previous games is classes above the average for the industry.

Of course it’s your decision to not buy their game based on the fact they had to use WotC’s IP, but you’re punishing an actually good developer for something they did not have a choice on (WotC’s ethics and way of running things).

Truth is like that you’re not hurting them, and most importantly not hurting WotC who’d get a small percentage of a small percentage of your sale. Couple of bucks at best is nothing to WotC’s bottom line.

But that’s your prerogative and that’s fine. However, I do suggest you play the game, cracked if you must because so far with about 20h in, it’s an amazing game from a great company. Maybe it won’t make you buy it, but at least it might make you consider supporting their other, or future, games that are not connected with WotC. Because the last few years we’re fast to point fingers to others, but forget to reward the few that do things properly.

_MusicJunkie, do gaming w I don't want to "Press any key to continue" to the main menu

Games used to take a looong time to load before flash storage, so people would go get a coffee or something while loading. Before main menus, it would just drop you into the game while you were away, potentiality missing something. So they added the “press any key” pause to wait until you’re back.

For some reason they kept this until today.

Vordus,

It’s also a holdover from arcade games, which would have an ‘attract mode’ when there was nobody playing.

soulsource, (edited ) do gaming w I don't want to "Press any key to continue" to the main menu
@soulsource@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Some games, like the Pathfinder games by Owlcat, use that initial input to determine if you are playing with mouse/keyboard or a gamepad. Depending on that, you get presented with a different UI in the main menu.

Another reason for such a screen could also be Xbox support. Nowadays it’s no longer necessary, because user-handling has been vastly improved with the GDK, but before the GDK was released a splash screen was the most user-friendly way to do user-handling in a single-player or online-multiplayer game on Xbox.

Jotain, do gaming w I don't want to "Press any key to continue" to the main menu
@Jotain@suppo.fi avatar

There was (is?) a requirement from Sony and Microsoft about how long a game can take to load as part of the game licensing process. One of the ways it is measured is by counting time from game boot to how quickly the game can react to user’s keypress. A “press start to continue” screen is the most simple thing you can load that passes this requirement. After that the game can do heavier operations such as loading save data, checking DLC or pulling latest messages from online server without having to worry too much about how long these operations take.

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