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PugJesus, w Lemmy.world has gone read only to us
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Yeah, something to do with voting from Kbin causing a loop and a huge amount of data to pass back and forth. Hope Ernest fixes it soon.

CharlesReed, w Lemmy.world has gone read only to us

Well that explains why a couple threads I posted weren't gaining any traction. I hope the issue gets figured out soon, otherwise I'll have to use my Mbin alt for anything lemmy.world related.

FfaerieOxide, w Can we help against spammers?
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

Identify a magazine which is prone to spam, scroll down to "Moderators", click the icon of the index finger pointing upward. Click it.

Request modship and then wait as nothing happens.

SolacefromSilence, w Can we help against spammers?

Is there a way to leverage down votes to limit content, at the magazine or instance level? I think I know the answer, but it would be dandy to put in place

BaldProphet,
@BaldProphet@kbin.social avatar

Sort by "hot" or "top" and you'll probably never see the spam posts. People always downvote them.

Kolanaki, w Can we help against spammers?
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Reporting them at the very least sends a message to the mods of the community the reported post/comment was on. Not sure about how/when it goes to instance admins, though. Which is where they really need to be reported to. Mods can block them from their community, but a spammer (human or bot) generally affects the entire server so it needs to go all the way to the top.

Blocking them also works to at least reduce the bots’ effectiveness. If everyone blocks it, it isn’t doing anything but wasting bandwidth, and if it’s not having the desired effect whoever deployed it might give up.

RobotToaster,
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Reports from lemmy apparently don’t federate to kbin…

BaldProphet,
@BaldProphet@kbin.social avatar

Most of the communities with significant spam problems have no moderators other than ernest. It's up to him to recruit more people to help moderate those.

Chozo,

In his most recent announcement, he said he's bringing 2 new instance mods. But I couldn't find the actual announcement post for the new team members. Unfortunately, these days Ernest often disappears for days or weeks at a time, so there's really no telling when we'll see the impacts of this.

Mikufan, w Lemmy.world has gone read only to us

.world moment, they are waaaaay to big.

insomniac_lemon,

I mean this is because of a technical issue likely on Kbin's side. Which is not a shock.

Also I posted 2 threads to kbin communities recently, 1 got most of its activity from LW and the other got 4 favorites from different instances and no comments (and it did not federate to LW, though I don't think that was related to the temporary block). LW could be too big but kbin seems kind of dead for the communities that aren't constantly in the feed (likely because of the same people posting, in many cases). Though technical issues always could be part of it in one way or another.

Mikufan,

Well, it works fine for the rest of lemmy…

Point still stands, lemmy.world is way to big to count as decentralized social network.

SharkAttak,
@SharkAttak@kbin.social avatar

Well the software is at version 0.19, there's still hope and room for improvement.

MrKaplan,
@MrKaplan@lemmy.world avatar

except it doesn’t work well for the rest of lemmy/the fediverse.

many other instances seem to be getting hit by this, but they don’t have as many activities generated locally for this to become much of a problem. additionally, this is mostly affecting instances with high latency to the instance that is being flooded by kbin, as lemmy currently has an issue where activity throughput between instances with high latency can’t keep up with too many activities being sent. the impact of this is can be a bit less on smaller instances with smaller communities often not having as many subscribers on remote instances, although we’ve seen problems reported by some other admins as well. this includes e.g. kbin.earth, which i suspect to have been hit by responses from a lemmy instance, while the lemmy instance was actually only answering the requests sent from that kbin instance.

during the last peak, when we decided to pull the plug for now, kbin.social was sending us more than 20 activities per second for 7 hours straight. lemmy.world can easily handle this amount of activities, but the problem arises when this impacts our federation towards other (lemmy) instances, as e.g. votes will get relayed by the community (magazine) instance, which means, depending on the type of activity being sent, we might have to be sending out the same 20 requests per second to up to 4,000+ other fediverse instances that are subscribed/following the community this is happening in. trying to send 20 requests per second, which lemmy does not do in parallel, requires us to use at most 50ms per activity total sending time to avoid creating lag. when the instance is in australia, with 200ms+ latency, this is simply not possible.

looking at the activity generation rates of some popular lemmy instances, anything that is significantly above lemmy.world is likely not just sending legitimate activities.

ps: if you’re wondering how i’m seeing this post, you can search for a post url and comment urls on lemmy to make lemmy fetch them, even if they haven’t been directly submitted through normal federation processes. this requires a logged in user on lemmy’s end.

fiat_lux, w Are we cut off?

Many of us are getting banned from other instances because there is a bug where kbin is sending way too much traffic per interaction. I know that was affecting federation (according to other instance admins) so It might have something to do with that. The content on kbin does seem to me like it's not in sync at all, but I haven't measured it.

All we can really do for now is hope for a fix and not interact with posts from other instances.

HubertManne,
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I saw some comments around this and did seem about the same time the 404's started. maybe thats it.

watersnipje, w Are we cut off?

I can see your message over here at Blåhaj Lemmy so at least in the other direction, it’s working.

Pamasich,

And I can see this comment from kbin, so seems to work this direction too.

e0qdk, w Are we cut off?
@e0qdk@reddthat.com avatar

This post made it over to reddthat, so your posts are federating out.

Checking over on my kbin account as well, I can see content in /newest from multiple sources. /sub returns 404 but I think that’s just a caching bug (adding ?p=1 to the end of the URL lets me workaround it).

e0qdk,
@e0qdk@kbin.social avatar

It took about a minute for my comment from reddthat to show up here, but it looks like it made it through ok, so inbound comments are working. (Note: replying to myself from my kbin account)

e0qdk,
@e0qdk@reddthat.com avatar

And I got the response from kbin back on reddthat fine. Seems like communication is working.

HubertManne,
@HubertManne@kbin.social avatar

thanks. I actually was seeing something similar at the start of the weekend but it sorta reveresed on me where sub works and newest gives me the 404. I have been looking through my sub and I am seeing lemmy mags. Thanks for the feedback.

Kierunkowy74, w KES 4.0.0 now adds full mbin compatibility
@Kierunkowy74@kbin.social avatar

this means KES has became MES too!

SharkAttak,
@SharkAttak@kbin.social avatar

KES-MES sounds kinda nice honestly.

minnieo, w KES 4.0.0 now adds full mbin compatibility
@minnieo@kbin.social avatar

💗💗💗

Gordon_Freeman, w If you're encountering the Subscribed 404 error, this is a good time to revisit Collections
@Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social avatar

https://kbin.social/sub/newest

now shows the 404 and that's the url that I use by default, because I prefer newest to go first

livus,
@livus@kbin.social avatar

The ?p=1 workaround works with that too for me
https://kbin.social/sub/newest?p=1

Gordon_Freeman,
@Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social avatar

cool, thanks

exscape, w Do the "Ernest needs to add more maintainers to KBin!" comments remind anyone else of the xz social engineering malarkey?
@exscape@kbin.social avatar

Honestly, no. Kbin has been barely usable for a long time and I'm starting to consider giving up.
I have a notification waiting for me, but I get a 404 on the page to check it out. /sub also didn't work yesterday. I spent a few minutes trying to edit a comment just an hour ago.

Nothing against Ernest, a page of this size is hard to manage alone or almost alone, but it's still a pain as a user.

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

I have a notification waiting for me, but I get a 404 on the page to check it out.

Append ?p=1 at the end of the URL; that sometimes fixes it.

Next, relax.

Dymonika, w kbin.social/sub says 404 page not found. Does anyone else have this issue?

I can't even upvote comments; it moves to an "error"-showing webpage entirely. EDIT: Okay, now I can, but just a moment ago it wasn't working, repeatedly...

rhythmisaprancer, w kbin.social/sub says 404 page not found. Does anyone else have this issue?
@rhythmisaprancer@kbin.social avatar

Same also. It made the PWA broken when I tried using it earlier. Maybe change my default view on the browser now. No other problems!

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