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Bonesince1997, w Luck be a Landlord is now banned in 13 countries on the Google Play Store

“Luck be a Landlord is a roguelike deckbuilder about using a slot machine to earn rent money and defeat capitalism. This game does not contain any real-world currency gambling or microtransactions.”

For those curious about the game. Game details from Metacritic.

givesomefucks,

So it’s literally a slot machine simulator…

And the guy who made it doesn’t understand why it’s being taken down for gambling?

ironeagl,

So you think an FPS should be taken down for murder?

givesomefucks,

No because that’s not killing anyone.

But a slot machine simulator is still gambling even if it doesn’t really pay out.

So a slot machine simulator getting banned in countries that ban gambling makes perfect sense.

But the creator apparently thinks it’s because those countries just love capitalism so much…

I don’t know what’s hard to understand

ZombiFrancis,

Well the UAE for instance recently made a deal with a Las Vegas casino. Wynn Resorts.

Exceptions are made, clearly.

givesomefucks,

I googled that.

It’s set to open in 2027 because they’re confident by then it will be legal.

But it’s 2023 and it’s not legal. So sure, if in 2027 it’s legal and this mobile slot machine simulator is still banned, maybe it would matter

ZombiFrancis,

Really, Luck Be A Landlord just needs to call them ‘duty free luck draws’ or something. Or disguise the slots as horse races. Gambling is rampant in places like the UAE, it’s just gamed,(haw). So that’s all LBAL would need to do. I doubt it’s worth the effort for the sales in the countries banning it though.

ABCDE,

But it’s 2023 and it’s not legal. So sure, if in 2027 it’s legal and this mobile slot machine simulator is still banned, maybe it would matter

Except gambling on racing is legal.

Feathercrown,

Are you just trolling?

bogdugg,
@bogdugg@sh.itjust.works avatar

a slot machine simulator is still gambling even if it doesn’t really pay out

Uhh, no? That’s not what gambling is?

kmkz_ninja,

Didn’t you know that every choice you make throughout the day is gambling?

Poob,

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  • Cybersteel,
    @Cybersteel@lemmy.world avatar

    That’s gambling with your life man.

    Poob,

    See my previous comment

    hughperman,

    Every random number generator is gambling, dammit. Right down to quantum mechanics.

    PlzGivHugs,

    What about Vampire Survivors, as well as numerous other games, using spinners or other slot-machine-like animations to represent RPG drops? Should all of these games be banned for the same reason? If anything, many of these better re-create the slot machine experience with their flashy effects and more substantial results.

    givesomefucks,

    I’m not exactly up to date on mobile games…

    But if their primary gameplay is a slot machine simulator, then yeah, I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re also banned.

    Although people who play a lot of mobile games would explain the type of replies I’m getting. So it probably wasn’t intentional, but you did help, thanks!

    PlzGivHugs,

    These aren’t mobile games, they’re desktop games, and this isn’t anything new. These same themes and effects have been used for decades. As someone else points out, even the retro Mario games have you use spinners and slot machines. RNG is exciting and helps make a fun and engaging game. I mean, by that same logic, a game like Catan should be banned because one of its primary mechanics is just being rewarded for favorable dice rolls, as you would be when gambling on dice.

    Croquette,

    There is a metric fuckton of slot machine games on the playstore. This game, which isn’t gambling, is being limited while other slot machine games aren’t.

    It would be different if the policy was applied equally to other apps as well.

    ABCDE,

    But if their primary gameplay is a slot machine simulator, then yeah, I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re also banned.

    You’ve been told multiple times it is not.

    Feathercrown,

    LbaL is also on Steam btw, I played it there a few years ago

    pruwybn,
    @pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    In Super Mario Bros 2 you use a slot machine to get extra lives at the end of each level - I hope they’ve banned that game too.

    Guy_Fieris_Hair, (edited )

    FPS games aren’t actually killing anyone.

    And a slot machine simulator is not actually gambling. Gambling is the wagering of something of value (“the stakes”) on a random event with the intent of winning something else of value, where instances of strategy are discounted. (Wikipedia) . If you are not paying or receiving money you are not gambling. You are just playing a game.

    Homeschooled316,

    Present evidence that fake gambling causes real gambling. Not evidence that it actives dopamine receptors. Actual gambling.

    Fantasy and fiction don’t cause maladaptive behavior. One day society will accept that this is still true for audiovisual media, just as it had to be slowly accepted for music, just as it had to be slowly accepted for books.

    givesomefucks,

    This is like saying meteorologists who predict the rain cause it…

    hyperhopper,

    The fps isn’t killing anybody and spinning the wheels in luck be a landlord isn’t taking anybody’s money.

    Neither is bad.

    ABCDE,

    But a slot machine simulator is still gambling even if it doesn’t really pay out.

    u wot? It’s not a slot machine simulator either.

    steb,
    @steb@kbin.social avatar

    Similar to some countries banning games that depict skulls or blood, these countries have banned games that depict gambling. This is different from banning games that contain loot boxes or actual gambling.

    all-knight-party,
    @all-knight-party@kbin.cafe avatar

    Uh oh, looks like all the Borderlands games are illegal. Gearbox better watch out

    givesomefucks,

    Too bad lootboxes are banned in a lot of countries so you couldn’t make a closer analogy…

    Kolanaki,
    !deleted6508 avatar

    The only loot boxes in Borderlands are the actual boxes of loot you find in the game world playing the game like any other box of loot in an RPG. Unless there’s a new one I haven’t heard of that contains MTX loot boxes.

    Detheroth,

    Google “Borderlands Golden Keys”. Been in the game since BL2 and was causing a stink even back then. Sure there is nothing exclusive to the Golden Chests (that I know of), but they are a quintessential Lootbox.

    Kolanaki, (edited )
    !deleted6508 avatar

    You mean the event exclusive shit you don’t actually have to pay for (outside of attending the events/seeing social media posts/the few that come with a DLC pack)?

    Per Gearbox’s official site for the game:

    How do I get Golden Keys? Golden Keys can only be unlocked by redeeming SHiFT codes. You can get SHiFT codes from official Gearbox sponsored events and social media accounts.

    Kolanaki,
    !deleted6508 avatar

    The only loot boxes in Borderlands are the actual boxes of loot you find in the game world playing the game like any other box of loot in an RPG. Unless there’s a new one I haven’t heard of that contains MTX loot boxes.

    givesomefucks,

    Even for someone with a username made out of emojis…

    Come on man, you can’t be that stupid

    Edit:

    Nevermind, saw that post history. That’s what I get for being an optimist

    Kolanaki, (edited )
    !deleted6508 avatar

    It sounds like you have no fucking clue what you’re talking about. Have you ever actually played any of the Borderlands games? Or are you like @Detheroth and considering the event/pre-order exclusive codes needed to unlock golden keys as a lootbox, despite them not actually selling them for money? FFS, you can cheat to obtain these things by just copying your save file, since they’re stored locally on your profile.

    If you had argued over the season pass shit, you’d have somewhat of a point, though not anything to do with gambling. But you decided to focus on lootboxes.

    ABCDE,

    For someone who calls everyone else stupid, you’re pretty damn ignorant yourself.

    p03locke,
    @p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Anybody who has played the game will know how much of a dumbass take this is. It’s no more a “slot machine simulator” than Doom is a “military training simulator”.

    moosetwin,
    @moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar
    Kolanaki,
    !deleted6508 avatar

    Star Fox has a secret level with a slot machine as a boss and the only way to beat it is to successfully get a jackpot. It’s as much of a gambling sim as this dude’s game is.

    Iunnrais,

    His is less gambling. In starfox, it’s purely random. In his game, you strategically select the symbols that can appear on the machine to make combos more or less likely.

    Iunnrais,

    It’s not even a slot machine simulator. It’s more like a deck builder card game with a slot machine theme.

    Skies5394, w 'A triumph': Brian Fargo, Mike Laidlaw, and other RPG architects weigh in on Baldur's Gate 3

    This was a triump. I’m making a note here, huge success.

    MrMcGasion,

    That’s Mark Laidlaw.

    (Technically Jonathan Coulton, but I couldn’t resist with Mike Laidlaw being in the title)

    Call_Me_Maple,
    @Call_Me_Maple@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s hard to overstate my satisfaction…

    Aurenkin,

    Larian studios. We do what we must, because we can.

    PenguinTD,

    For the good of all of us. Except the ones who are dead.

    (edit: if you play evil route replace “good” to “evil” )

    Jamie, w Bethesda's Pete Hines Calls Out Former Blizzard WoW Team Lead Over 'Rushed' Starfield Start Screen Comments
    @Jamie@jamie.moe avatar

    It just looks like every other Bethesda start screen.

    vaultdweller013,

    That aint a bad thing, their start screens are simple but functional. Why put too much effort into it when 80 percent of the time it wont even be active for more than 5 seconds. Make it look nice but dont go overboard.

    Secret300, w Killer Bean - Official Game Trailer

    “This is a third person, roguelike shooter. Every time you start a new single player campaign, everything changes. The locations change, the missions change, the characters change, the bosses change, and most of all, the story changes. Characters who you trusted before, may turn against you. Enemies who tried to kill you, may end up helping you. Simple missions can turn into deadly traps. No two campaigns are the same.”

    If they pull that off cleanly this game will actually be so amazing

    weirdo_from_space, w Killer Bean - Official Game Trailer

    Fuck yeah, Killer Bean is back let’s go!

    I wonder how the story will shape up because the first sequel series we’ve got was trash.

    PeterPoopshit, w No Man's Sky 7th Anniversary Video

    Wow I feel old now. 7 years? Already? In my mind No Man’s Sky is still a “new” game.

    DeriHunter, w Black Myth: Wukong – The First Hands-On Preview

    Looks amazing and I don’t know it for a fact but it feels like the devs takes the time to perfect the game and it will come out polished… Of course this just my feeling

    wahming, (edited ) w Dave The Diver Director Says Future Updates Will Add New Side Missions And Fish

    How about getting the game to play at 60 freaking FPS

    Edit: I guess from the downvotes that everybody’s playing this on their custom gaming rig. Seriously, the performance is awful for a pixel art game

    FracturedEel,

    Are you playing it on a potato

    wahming,

    1 year old macbook pro, which you’d think would suffice for a game of this graphical quality

    sparse_neuron,

    Works at 60FPS on a Steam deck so not sure what’s going on with your machine.

    wahming,

    1 year old macbook pro, which you’d think would suffice for a game of this graphical quality

    sparse_neuron,

    Sounds more like a Mac software issue then a game issue.

    Default_Defect, w Nintendo Switch emulators Yuzu and Ryujinx can already run Red Dead Redemption on PC
    @Default_Defect@midwest.social avatar

    4k 60 fps on my 3080 on day one, its wild.

    Bishma, w 'Baldur's Gate 3' Is a Staggering Success and a Once in a Decade RPG
    @Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    It scratches the same itch that has led me to buy Skyrim at least 3 times (PS3, PC, and Switch)

    qwertyWarlord, w 'Baldur's Gate 3' Is a Staggering Success and a Once in a Decade RPG

    Hey if we can have several one in a decade world events happening in a short timespan, surely we can get some good games too

    BudgieMania, w Total War: Warhammer 3 DLC is getting more expensive and the community is rebelling: 'Remember they need us more than we need them'

    If they need more revenue, I wish they would try console releases instead of deteriorating the value of newer DLC. Company of Heroes did it so it is not unheard of, and surely the hardware of latest gen consoles is enough to run a semi-decent experience of Total War titles.

    As much as I love the franchise, I'm kinda concerned for its future if they continue down the current route, not gonna lie.

    ThunderingJerboa,
    @ThunderingJerboa@kbin.social avatar

    I think that will be dreadful. Like not a huge fan of the dlc price increases (seriously almost 150% increase over the last game when their last lord pack COC was already an increase), just TW on console just sounds awful since the controls just aren't precise enough for what you need to do in those games. Yes, you can plug in a keyboard and mouse in a console but I don't think many people would be willing to do that for just a singular game except for the most tryhardy of people

    twistedtxb, w Quake 2 Remastered Is Stunning - The DF Tech Review - Every Version Tested
    @twistedtxb@lemmy.ca avatar

    This is exactly like you do a proper remaster. I just finished the new expansion and this alone could justify a $40 price point.

    Take Two should be ashamed of themselves

    verysoft, w 'Baldur's Gate 3' Is a Staggering Success and a Once in a Decade RPG

    Well DOS2 came out 6 years ago, so hardly once in a decade.

    nicktron,
    @nicktron@kbin.social avatar

    What’s DOS2?

    Elegast,
    @Elegast@lemmy.ca avatar

    Divinity original sin 2 id assume. Great game as well by Larian.

    scottywh,

    Interesting that it didn’t gain similar notoriety then.

    theragu40,

    I think the Baldurs Gate name/brand carries a ton of weight still. Lots of people are nostalgic for it because it was a formative game of the 90s.

    Bandananaan,

    I think bg3 is also a lot easier to get into than dos 1 and 2. Having actual cut scenes and voice acting for everything goes a long way in making the game immersive. I also feel its easier to get into the combat (though that may just be me having got used to dos beforehand)

    theragu40,

    I’m really looking forward to playing it (I’ve promised myself to fully beat TotK before I pick it up). I played a ton of BG 1 and 2 when I was a kid and even for me they are hard to pick back up now. A slightly more accessible version of that sounds amazing.

    Bandananaan,

    I tried playing bg 1 and 2 about 10 years ago. I put about 40 hours in between them and enjoyed it, but I found it tough going. I’ve found bg3 way easier to get into and have already far surpassed the hours I put into the original games. On top of what I’ve already mentioned, the change to fully turn based is a huge improvement on that weird pausable real time used in the previous games

    theragu40,

    I’m really excited to hear that. The real time but actually not combat I think is what really killed me when I played them. I was only like 15 years old but I think I just didn’t “get” it and tried to just go for it in real time which made many encounters incredibly difficult.

    BloodForTheBloodGod,

    IMO it didn’t have an engaging start. The joke/parody concept also scratches s different itch.

    RegularGoose,

    6 years ago was a different decade.

    BloodForTheBloodGod,

    I found that game wasn’t 8% as engaging or interesting to.me

    verysoft,

    As BG3? Its the same formula, just different lore and combat.

    BloodForTheBloodGod,

    I just didn’t like it

    tallwookie, w 'Baldur's Gate 3' Is a Staggering Success and a Once in a Decade RPG
    @tallwookie@lemmy.world avatar

    because it’s a good game, or because they didnt go the DLC route?

    Kichae,

    Because they sold a whole bunch of copies.

    utopianrevolt,

    all of the above

    sugar_in_your_tea,

    It turns out, if you make a good game, it’ll probably sell well.

    shrugal,

    Yes

    people_are_cute,
    @people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    Because people don’t currently have many options among new games.

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