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arc, (edited ) w $600 Million And A Decade Later, Where Is Star Citizen

Serves people right for crowdfunding a game let alone one built around some libertarian wet dream where you have to buy your way to success, dropping thousands on content like spaceships.

Torvum,

You realize they’re developing two games simultaneously and the star citizen hate is only banked by people who don’t realize they’ve literally told everyone that SC isn’t getting content updates until Squadron 42 is done.

Secondly, buying ships for money is advertised as “do this if you want to support our game”. The ship cost being relative to a supporter tier if it was Patreon. Every single ship available can be bought and earned in game without spending more than $35 for the game’s basic access package.

Serves dumbasses right who expect news cycled to them and can’t do basic 5 minutes of critical thinking to eat slop like this article

Kolanaki,
!deleted6508 avatar

the star citizen hate is only banked by people who don’t realize they’ve literally told everyone that SC isn’t getting content updates until Squadron 42 is done.

And when will that be done?

Torvum, (edited )

I don’t know, it’s a good question but my point is how cringe of a hate train this game gets from people who haven’t a fucking clue what they’re talking about just to farm the feeling they’re with the in crowd. RSI has missed a lot of deadlines, but star citizen looks so unfinished because everything they’re working on isn’t being put in the PU nor heavily marketed. They’re not just sitting on a dragons hoard doing nothing

SC itself is self admitted a tech demo and like all early access games you’re told to only buy into them if you want to support the game. No one is holding a gun to backers’ heads and forcing them to buy jpg concepts

beneeney,
@beneeney@lemm.ee avatar

inb4 they start working on a third game and then tell you that Squadron 42 won’t be getting new content until that third game is done.

Torvum,

Both games started at the same time and are developed using the same engine and technology so this is honestly just a boring response

21Cabbage, w Report: Fall Guys dev Mediatonic "decimated" by Epic layoffs

‘Epic layoffs’ is a pretty funny term in a vacuum.

Squizzy, w Yes, Phantom Liberty and patch 2.0 really are Cyberpunk 2077's 'last big updates' and it's finally time to start the sequel, director confirms

So we can assume a date for release is to follow soon

Aurenkin,

“When it’s done time to cash in”

Drbreen, w Grimbeard : Deus Ex: Invisible War (PC) - Review

From memory IW wasn’t very well received but I loved it.

Blackdoomax, w War Thunder user leaks restricted military documents for AH-64D Apache Longbow

Lol, again xd

zepheriths,

13th

Blackdoomax,

I like when it’s to win an argument. But it seems it wasn’t the case here?

rikudou, w Horizon Forbidden West Complete Edition coming to Steam and EGS
@rikudou@lemmings.world avatar

No GOG? That’s sad.

Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow,

It’s not an old game?

emogu,

? GOG is a drm free storefront. Doesn’t have anything to do with the age of the game. Plenty of new releases launch on gog alongside steam/egs/Ms

Kaldo,
@Kaldo@kbin.social avatar

Doesn’t have anything to do with the age of the game.

In that user's defense, GOG does stand for "good old games" and repackaging/fixing those has been one of their biggest accomplishments.

emogu,

Lol fair point. And its old game library is 2nd to none. But its homepage is also covered in Cyberpunk DLC and BG3

PM_ME_FEET_PICS,

CDProjectRed and GOG are the same company…

smikwily,

GOG hasn’t been Good Old Games since 2012. Yeah, they aren’t really screaming it from the mountains, but they rebranded to just GOG.com then: web.archive.org/…/bigger_fresher_newer_see_whats_…

Kaldo,
@Kaldo@kbin.social avatar

Huh, TIL.

Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow,

GOG stands for “Good Old Games” bro, TYL

PM_ME_FEET_PICS,

No it doesn’t. It used to. They dropped the old GOG branding back in 2012.

Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow,

So what does it stand for now champ

PM_ME_FEET_PICS,

Nothing

“On 27 March 2012, Good Old Games announced that it was branching out to feature “AAA” and independent titles in addition to older games. The site was rebranded to GOG.com.”

rikudou,
@rikudou@lemmings.world avatar

What @emogu said. Also, Horizon: Zero Dawn is there.

forgotaboutlaye,

Probably once they get the initial sales from Steam and Epic.

PM_ME_FEET_PICS,

You’re getting down voted but it’s what happens to most titles.

rikudou, w Valve fails to get out of paying its EU geo-blocking fine
@rikudou@lemmings.world avatar

Nice. As much as I love Valve, region-blocking sucks and the EU enforcing it is great.

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

Yeah, it’s really going to help the citizens of the poorer EU countries when they have to pay the same high prices as their higher earning neighbours.

Truly a win for the EU and it’s citizens.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, it’s really going to help the citizens of the poorer EU countries when they have to pay the same high prices as their higher earning neighbours.

Had you cared to even read the one-line summary, you’d know it’s not about different prices within Steam but about activation keys.

aBundleOfFerrets, (edited )

Which will unavoidably inflate the prices of said keys in said poorer countries. The article mentions this explicitly.

FluffyPotato,

Steam prices are already the same. Steam games aren’t cheaper in Estonia at least.

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

Because they stopped doing it years ago to avoid the EU going after them.

WormFood,

The geoblocking is in place to prevent people from buying keys in one (cheap) region and activating them in another (more expensive) one. It’s about both, you dolt.

Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow,

The EU has very clear law on digital ownership. It’s the same reason if you buy a PC with Windows installed in the EU, you have the right to take that Windows install and put it on another PC, regardless of if it’s OEM or not. This hasn’t prevented Microsoft from doing regional pricing for Windows and if this affects Steam’s pricing that’s on Valve.

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

Had you cared to read the fucking article.

The original charges centered around activation keys. The commission said Valve and five publishers (Bandai Namco, Capcom, Focus Home, Koch Media and ZeniMax) agreed to use geo-blocking so that activation keys sold in some countries — like Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary and Latvia — would not work in other member states. That would prevent someone in, say, Germany buying a cheaper key in Latvia, where prices are lower.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Had you cared to read the fucking article.

I did and unlike you I even understood it.

That would prevent someone in, say, Germany buying a cheaper key in Latvia, where prices are lower.

ACTIVATION KEYS from key retailers. It’s not about prices within the Steam storefront.

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

Valve said that the charges didn't pertain to PC games sold on Steam, but that it was accused of locking keys to particular territories at the request of publishers

It’s not like Valve played no role in this.

Games can be sold on other places besides the Steam store. This still negatively impacts consumers.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

It’s not like Valve played no role in this.

I never claimed otherwise.

This still negatively impacts consumers.

Some consumers maybe. It will benefit others.

sugar_in_your_tea,

Temporarily. But then Valve might just set prices the same everywhere in the EU and also restrict keys sold by other retailers.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

I can order any goods via mail from across the border, like a BluRay of a PS5 game.

sugar_in_your_tea,

I don’t see what that has to do with Steam, digital goods are regulated differently than physical goods.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

digital goods are regulated differently than physical goods.

But this is still about activation keys which are frequently printed out, put in a plastic case, and then sent to retail markets.

sugar_in_your_tea,

That sounds like a separate thing entirely. I could be wrong, but I don’t think Valve has any say in how keys not sold through the Steam storefront are resold, so supposedly the lawsuit should target whoever is distributing keys in that way. AFAIK, Steam only offers two ways to buy a game–buy the game for yourself and buy as a gift–and in neither case does Steam offer the keys directly to users.

And then there’s this from the article:

In a statement back in 2021, Valve said that the charges didn’t pertain to PC games sold on Steam, but that it was accused of locking keys to particular territories at the request of publishers. It added that it turned off region locks for most cases (other than local laws) in 2015 because of the EU’s concerns.

So AFAIK Valve isn’t distributing resellable keys that are region locked, it’s region-locking at the point of purchase and allowing developers to request region-locked keys. So it would be on publishers to abide by EU laws, no?

The again, I don’t live in the EU, nor have I ever bought a physical Steam key (not sure if Valve directly offers that in any way).

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

So it would be on publishers to abide by EU laws, no?

Yes. Bandai Namco, Capcom, Focus Home, Koch Media, and ZeniMax are named by the ruling. Never heard of Focus Home before, though.

grue,

That’s on Valve, not the regulators. Valve is perfectly free to lower the prices EU-wide to what the citizens of the poorer EU countries can afford.

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

?

Are you deliberately being thick?

Valve doesn’t set the prices.

And more importantly no business is going to charge everyone the low price instead of charging everyone the high price if forced to pick one or the other.

grue,

🤷 Still not the regulator’s fault.

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

It is their fault for removing that option however.

grue,

Sure, in the same way it’s the government’s “fault” for removing your option to, say, run a protection racket, or agree to a contract of indentured servitude, or sell baby formula with melamine in it. There are lots of abusive or exploitative business models that the government removes your option to engage in! And the government is right to do it.

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

Not at all.

Offering those less capable of paying, a reduced price isn’t abusive or exploitative.

There is a huge difference between the things you’ve mentioned and this. You’re being intentionally dishonest at this point and there’s no further point in this discussion.

grue,

The cost of producing something doesn’t change depending on who you sell it to. Charging anything beyond cost + some reasonable profit margin is unethical profiteering.

oo1,

go price discrimination!

we should give more companies more market power so they can do it more.

fucking competetive markets suck - i cant believe all these fucking laws trying to limit monopoly power.

/s

EdibleFriend, w Remedy says its Max Payne remakes are ‘a big, big project’
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

I can already hear that damn baby crying

rehydrate5503,

Don’t.

EdibleFriend,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

waah

-Baby

IamRoot, w War Thunder user leaks restricted military documents for AH-64D Apache Longbow

The UCMJ will take care of them.

What an idiot.

_haha_oh_wow_, w Counter Strike 2 is surprisingly awful on Steam Deck right now
@_haha_oh_wow_@kbin.social avatar

I would totally expect that because controller, but I hadn't considered the specs.

taladar, w VR still makes 40-70% of players want to throw up, and that's a huge problem for the companies behind it

Even if the sickness issue is solved at some point I just don’t ever see VR become a dominant way to game. There are just too many downsides.

Story-focussed games can not direct you where to look. You are completely cut off from the world so you can’t e.g. watch a child or elderly relative while you use it or chat with friends while you work using it. Environments need a lot more work for a smaller market share if you can look at them from any angle. Hardware is much more expensive (and always will be) compared to a system that just needs to render a screenful of content at the same quality level. Your UI options are more limited if you want to keep things immersive.

sugar_in_your_tea,

Exactly, and that’s why we don’t have one. Maybe I’ll get one when my kids are a little older, but for now, it’s a lot more fun to experience things together than to have someone completely closed off in a VR world.

Even if I didn’t have kids, I still probably wouldn’t want it because I’d like to spend that time with my spouse, and looking at an avatar just isn’t the same.

taladar,

I think the entire line of thinking that you need a first person perspective to be immersed in a game or virtual world is also flawed. As someone who has been on Second Life for more than 16 years now which uses neither VR equipment nor a first person camera 90% of the time I can certainly “feel like I am there” despite all of those factors and in the presence of many other factors that do not exist in RL like teleporting and camming through walls just fine.

sugar_in_your_tea,

Is that ever claimed anywhere? AFAIK, VR has just been marketed as a new way to experience a virtual world, not as the only way to be immersed in a virtual world.

I think VR would be really cool, but it just doesn’t seem to fit with my lifestyle at this point. And I’m not sure if I would be able to handle it since I and my spouse get motion sick quite easily.

CluckN, w Teardown is coming to PS5 on November 15

Can’t wait for the switch release so I can heat my home this winter.

BallShapedMan, w Teardown is coming to PS5 on November 15
@BallShapedMan@lemmy.world avatar

Good game, probably worth your time. I enjoyed it quite a bit on PC.

13617, w Counter Strike 2 is surprisingly awful on Steam Deck right now

Can agree to this, I’ve tried to play but it plays at like 30fps and the controls are all messed up all the menu based stuff is gone it’s actually awful.

li10, w LORDS OF THE FALLEN - Overview Trailer

I am still so surprised that they made a sequel for this.

The first game was just so bland and clunky, and for a while at least was the go to example of a bad souls like.

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