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simple, w After 27,000+ Steam reviews, Overwatch 2 is graded as 'Overwhelmingly Negative'

50,000 reviews now. It’s a shame, I used to play OW1 a lot even after they stopped providing new content for it. Came to OW2 and I just couldn’t be arsed to grind for characters I don’t have unlocked. You need to win 35 games, and since there’s a basically forced 50% winrate that means you need to play 70 games to unlock a character each time. Wanted to play Ramattra, saw he’s locked, uninstalled and didn’t look back. The monetization is terrible. The balance feels worse than it’s ever been.

This wouldn’t be such a problem if they didn’t literally SHUT DOWN OVERWATCH 1 to shove people into the cash shop grind sequel

vettnerk,

I know next to nothing about neither Ow1 or OW2, but from the sound of it they turned OW2 into a game focused on grinding, where you can pay to skip (part of) the grind. Is my assessment correct? If so they must’ve looked at War Thunder and taken that idea.

Mic_Check_One_Two,

Yes. OW1 cost money, but you got all the content. The only paid service was cosmetic outfits for the different characters. You could buy loot boxes for cosmetics. But you had all of the characters, maps, game modes, etc available to begin with. You got the whole game, then could grind for cosmetics.

OW2 takes that and flips it on its head. The game is free, but each character costs money. The problem is that they shut down OW1, so now the players who owned 1 are having to grind for everything. They’ve also had some weird server bugs, with players getting indefinitely locked out of characters they already own.

Cryst,

Wait. I bought overwatch 1 but stopped playing a few years ago. If I go back into overwatch I would have to grind for characters that I used to previously have access to?

derpgon,

No, this applies only to characters released in OW2. All the original characters should still be playable for free.

JeffCraig,

Fuck everyone that played OW2

How stupid do you have to be to see this train wreck coming and still contribute.

Hopefully after OW2 and Diablo 4, people finally stop downloading Blizzard games.

Version,

I personally have no problem with the monetization, but the balance is really, really bad.

Contend6248,

I really don’t need another subscription in my life

Version,

Yeah, but honestly I don‘t think it ruins the game. Sure, it’s not the best idea, but I don‘t care too much. I actually care more about the fact that the gameplay currently sucks and is completely different to Overwatch 1. 5v5 and the overall balancing sucks.

zalgotext,

The balance of OW2 is way better than OW1 though. OW1 was a boring shield-shooting simulator for the last 2 or 3 years of it’s life.

Pxtl,
@Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

That’s not the balance, that’s the gameplay. There are still balance problems like the era of Mercy damage amping.

And while they’ve solved the CC and barriers problem, they’ve made teamfights too swingy. With only 5v5 and a single op tank, teamfights are often basically over after a single death or a single Rez. Especially for the tank. That’s just too much pressure, so nobody wants to tank anymore.

zalgotext,

Shields were too strong in OW1, so much so that the meta revolved around having two shield tanks. How is that not a balance issue?

I agree there’s too much pressure on the tank currently, but I’ll definitely take that over the problems 6v6 OW had.

Pxtl,
@Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

So don’t? You get the new hero like a month or so later then. I haven’t put a dime into ow since I bought it. You don’t need the cosmetics. Let the dumb whales fund the game.

Contend6248,

Have you played OW before? I can’t imagine a hero which wasn’t OP on release, fuck that game and it’s P2W subscription

Pxtl,
@Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

Picking lifeweaver at his release was widely considered throwing.

Klystron, w Larian's unfair advantage - Credistick

Yeah imo it’s a pretty bullshit take to say what xalavier did. Like no shit not every new RPG is gonna be to the same quality as bg3 but is that us as the consumer’s fault? We’re supposed to just ignore bg3 and be happy with the status quo? When has being stagnant ever been good for anyone, ever? Fuck off and just make a good game and no one will complain

adept,

Nothing is gonna change. Consumers gonna consume

People will preorder the next cash grab and whoever cares about quality games will just have to wait. Although i have to admit that it will be pretty much impossible to match the love and care larian poures into their games.

zer0, w Quake II - Official Trailer (2023)

Closed source spyware by microsoft. Just play Xonotic or Nexuiz

ezures,

Lmao, they actually released the source code

zer0,

Excellent, make sure not to use closed launchers to play this

avatar, w Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom and the Super Mario Bros. Movie drove Nintendo to a record-breaking quarter | Geek Centrals

But which did better, and by how much over the other?

TheYang,
@TheYang@lemmy.ml avatar

As of August 6, 2023, The Super Mario Bros. Movie has grossed $574.2 million in the United States and Canada, and $779.3 million in other territories, for a worldwide total of $1.355 billion.

wiki

[Tears of the Kingdom] sold more than 10 million copies in its first three days of release, and had sold over 18.5 million copies by June 2023.

wiki

at 69.99 a game, would mean the total volume sold is roughly $1.295 billion, 60 million less than the Super Mario Movie.

I’m not certain if the movie gross is the same calculation though. It seems that the calculation is fair But data for Tears of the Kingdom is about a month older so that it seems possible it passed The Super Mario Movie by now.

weirdo_from_space, w Overwatch 2 is now Steam's "worst game of all time"

Every week some other game seems to claim that title.

fritata_fritato, w Stalker 2 could still release this year, according to distributor listing

Whenever will be all good. There are a few things going on over there

Call_Me_Maple, w Strange Colorful XBOX 360 Games #13 (@RebelTaxi)
@Call_Me_Maple@lemmy.world avatar

Aye, my boy Pan Pizza getting a shout out on Lemmy, let’s go. I love his videos so much.

gk99, w Obsidian says Avowed was originally co-op but it just wasn't Obsidian enough

Lame. There’s no reason you can’t have co-op in an RPG. Wasteland 3 was made 100x better with the addition and allowing me to share the experience with a friend.

DeriHunter, w Tech This Out: Adaptive Controllers are game changers, meet the pioneers

“I wish you could see me! I’m missing 3 limbs and I’m kicking your ass!” Lmao, this guy’s amazing! Some people are incredible.

gk99, w Strange Colorful XBOX 360 Games #13 (@RebelTaxi)

I don’t agree with the classification of 360 as “retro,” because I can think of multiple 360-era games in the top 50 charts today. The implication being that if the 360 is retro, so are its games.

And I can’t imagine going up to someone playing GTAV or CSGO and saying “bro this game is retro.”

can, (edited )

That’s a good point. To be clear I was commenting on people saying that in general. I don’t think Pan actually called it that.

ME5SENGER_24, w Ubisoft has a new Far Cry IP boss

I like these games. I do. But at the same time I don’t. They’re repetitive in the gameplay and it gets stale to the point where I never finish them.

Along with the Assassins Creed series, they have sucked me in and don’t deliver enough to maintain my business, yet a couple of months after a release when I see them go on sale the end up in my collection.

I’m hoping this news will end in an awesome game that I’m obviously going to buy and that I will actually finish, for once

coffinwood,

Agree. I’m playing Far Cry 6 and somehow got the feeling it’s even slightly worse (more stupid) than the 5th entry.

The map is filled to the brim with NPCs and animals, yet I’ve rarely witnessed such a dead world. Not a single NPC has a purpose or life. Cars outside the render distance disappear from the game too: turn around and that vehicle is gone like in those 1980’s video games. Turn around again: new NPC.

Finished a checkpoint / road block: your car is gone Baddies reappear in enemy areas although I just cleared it out. Such a lack of persistence is almost an offense.

Not one car that doesn’t sound their horn at me because they think I’m trying to ram them off the road. Arcade games from decades ago were less dumb.

Nfntordr,

Ubi really need to scale down the size of these games and adopt a quality over quantity mindset. I’ve played multiple Ubi IPs and they’re the fucking same at its core.

Nfntordr, w Stalker 2 could still release this year, according to distributor listing

Release about 1 month after Starfield to potentially capitalise on everyone realising it didn’t live up to the hype.

LilBagOfBunnies, w Overwatch 2’s Story Missions Are Good, But Not $15 Good

A buddy of mine loved OW1, ranked top-100 for Rein, and preordered OW2 a long time ago. Not only did Blizz not refund his $60 after they changed directions, he said he still has to pay for this content.

Obviously the main takeaway is another reminder to never preorder games, but that is so slimy.

Lojcs, w Researchers find China's game time limits ineffective in reducing excessive play

Is data from unity enough to draw conclusions? Wouldn’t they need data from other engines too?

Also unity collecting statistics from games using its engine and sharing them with other people is yuck

nanoUFO,
@nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works avatar

For unity, it’s becoming a you are the product type of deal oh and trend chasing.

JackGreenEarth, w Researchers find China's game time limits ineffective in reducing excessive play
@JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee avatar

Nobody seems to be saying this, but a 16yo playing 2hrs or more any day is ok and their choice. Making anyone under 18 only allowed to play 1hr a week is overly controlling and uncompromising - much like the rest of China’s policies.

sugar_in_your_tea,

Yup. We limit our kids (2 under 10)to 2hr/day, though they need to “earn” that time by reading, and we give them a free hour each week.

We think that’s fair, and that’s our choice as parents. As they get older, we’ll give them more freedom to set their own rules.

If my local government made the same restrictions as I make, I would totally oppose it. I as a parent should decide what my house rules are.

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